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Maybe S&P should just default to what the real whiners want: The Koombayah Forum. 

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Nah, someone is gonna get spanked. I can't read crap like "the tsunami and 2012" w/o saying something eventually.I took a ban(1fucking hr?)last night for posting this concern in the website feedback forum(where I thought FEEDBACK goes). The thread was locked saying it was just another "swami" thread and I was banned after a brief but telling interaction with a "mod?".Now I will just see how this all gets handled. I know S&P will be a Bullshit forum without the "skeptic" view.
I guess in situations such as this a Zen mode is key. It don't really matter and even if it did, it don't really matter.
WR

LunarEclipse said:

  Isn't this a private web site where it costs nothing to join?  Isn't posting a priveledge and not a right? 

If people are going to consider this their "home", perhaps they should consider who owns the house.  If you don't pay rent, and you don't own the house, you aren't "home".  You are JUST A GUEST.  And we all know what happens to guests who wear out their welcome.

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This is what it comes down too along with the forum rules for being a guest in someone elses home. Mods, I think this should head the forum rules post to serve as a reminder.

When I'm at my parents house, it feels like MY home, but I am just a guest there and they can pretty much tell me how I have to be when in their home or tell me to get the fuck out until I can respect their wishes and their other guests.

There are enough of you here complaining about how the owners of this home like to keep house. Why not get together and create your own Web-site? If you did, maybe you would appreciate the time and money that goes into as well as the effort to keep it an enjoyable place to be for the welcomed guests.

I would gather that the original vision was to create a community for people who shared a common interest-shroomin. I'm sure the original vision and intention included a harmonious and co-operative atmosphere, not oppositions and power plays.

I'm not on a high horse. I've been mega banned and have had threads locked. I didn't complain about it but rather took the opportunity to realize where and how I became an obnoxious house guest regardless of the provocation and appreciated the reminder of what a privilege it is to be allowed to post here.

On a final note, I fucken hate rules. Catch this, my first message board was at the crystal children web-site, you can imagine how airy fairy it was. Some of the old timers didn't like the way I played and complained to the site owner acclaimed book author Doreen Virtue herself about me.

Moderators were put in place for the first time to appease the gooey sappy oldies who felt I was to abrasive. I never got in trouble there but was like oh fuck that whiney crap, and I started my own message boards and invited everyone over who was diggen a different vibe.

Only then when all hell would break loose did I actually find myself starting to ban people and delete threads. I couldn't believe I was doing that when I valued freedom and free will as I did. I had no rules and no intention of moderating, rather participating as an equal.

I thought I was acting in the best interest of the majority who found certain people upsetting to the flow or highly negative as they did complain to me off the board and then when I would ban the offensive ones and delete the negative stuff, the others turned on me for doing it. I was like wtf?

I can really appreciate first hand what these mods are dealing with. After a while, I got tired of the time and money upkeep and trying to please everyone and bailed on it.

The moral of the story is, if you don't like how this home is wished to be kept by the owner keepers of it then maybe it's time you buy your own house, invite some guests and then maybe you will appreciate and understand this whole situation much better.

I feel bad for anytime I stepped out of line here and you won't find me complaining about my rights to be an ass in someone elses home flaming the home owners, staff in service to the festivities or the guests.

A lot of people have backed off from posting for now simply because they are waiting for the opposition against the admins and mods to settle down. Some people read like people who crashed a mellow chill civilized party, trashed the place, then had the nerve to complain about how lame the party was while making fun of the dorky guests. Its not cool, its just not cool.

Buy your own house, let everyone trash it, fight, shred and tear on your guests and YOU, then maybe the light bulb of understanding and appreciation will go off in your head.

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Sclorch said:
It's easy to say when you've only been a part of this community since July.

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It's been interesting watching some use the same reasons to support their beliefs and feelings that they call others "nuts" for.

Say I am talking about some cosmic trippy shit and someone tells me I am nuts and I say back that they don't understand because they are just waking up and I've been involved with it for a decade. I suppose I would be called arrogant, think I am better then the newly awakened or some like cacophony, yet you sit here and say, "i have been here longer so I matter more. Same shit different face.

It's also interesting to see the double standard that has lied beneath the surface coming out here.

For those of you who have been deeply caught up in the swama, let me share an outside view with you.

Some are beefing that this forum is NOT about feelings , people overact based on emotions and that they shouldn't and how no one can make you feel anything and that the emotional wusses here should take a hike.

Well well, aren't those same people coming froward within the swama from a place of strong emotions, reacting from them as if they were made to feel hurt and upset by his unjust ban?

Maybe some people should take an "aha" moment and realize, that's how some others here have felt when they come from emotion, feel that they have been treated unfairly and say things like "this made me feel this or that way".

The same people who argue against that are the same ones acting in the same manor regarding the swama.

We are no different in the end it appears.

For example, what if Markos told you that your feelings about the shroomery being like your home that has been a part of you for so many years do not matter and that you should refrain from bringing that sentiment and part of yourself into this forum like you told him he should do with the esoterism that has become a part of him?

Like jell pointed about what happens to calm a storm, the energies merge into one.

We are more the same then we are not after all I hope some are realizing. We all have things we feel strongly about that have become a part of who we are and even those who have pooh poohed emotions and emotional reactions and taking offense to unfair attacks on what you feel strongly about are now doing the same exact thing.

Maybe now, some of you may understand how others have felt over the years here when they come from feeling strongly about something that has become a part of them and maybe, some more consideration and respect will be shown for that across the board. Maybe no one will have grown from this.

regardless, what pulled me in is what Lunar said and that is no matter how long or short you have been a guest in anothers home, and no matter how much it feels like home or how many liberties the home owner gave you in the past, they are free to reset the boundaries for their open house whenever they wish how they wish. Like a private home with owners and hired staff, this is the same thing.

They had intentions and visions for this community, it is theirs to run, theirs to make the choice of staff to hire that they believe will maintain the original integrity to the best of human ability as they see fit. To insult the mods is to insult the homeowners intelligence. That's a very disrespectful thing for a house guest to do. This is an open community. No one is held captive here. People are free to come and go.

This is a growing community, you have to expect change and growing pains and adjustments to occur from time to time to keep the vision alive and thriving in new directions. That's evolution. Funny how the hard core evolutionists seem to be having the most difficult time adapting to change.

Remember who survives, those that can adapt to change and those who thought they were strong calling the others weak can't seem to adapt to a changing environment very well.

Go ahead everyone in the swama, keep talking because all you are doing is showing yourselves to be and do what you have been accusing others of. It's sort of funny and something one can laugh at themselves over. Maybe soon we will all be laughing over this up the road TOGETHER.

This is a great opportunity to take a pause for some self reflection. I know I have.

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whiterasta said:Well said! when one has operated with a set of "rules" for a number of years and then is subjected to "new" and unanounced "rules" a reaction will ensue.
Perhaps this is a rather unpopular and unflattering view of human behavior. but that IS what we all are here,human?
OR... How would you like to get a ticket for driving one handed without knowlege one handed driving was an offence?Driving is also a privelige,neh?
But you would still react to the injustice,right?Well this is the reaction from some long time one handed drivers.
WR

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