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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Swama New Year = Resolution or Revolution?
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Let's hope the New Year brings more resolution than revolution as cooler heads prevail.




Edited by LunarEclipse (01/02/05 05:58 PM)

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Re: Santa aka Swami [Re: LunarEclipse]
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woohoo im shitting myself with excitement!

:smirk:


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Re: Santa aka Swami [Re: LunarEclipse]
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Since Swami has had more time on his hands for the last few days, I predict a 'Swami Manifesto'. It would be a gift for some and coal for others.


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Re: Santa aka Swami [Re: Source]
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"I predict a Swami Manifesto"

Didn't the Unabomber write a manifesto?  :shocked:


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Re: Santa aka Swami [Re: LunarEclipse]
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I predict he'll call the mods on their bs and get permabanned.

But then again... I'm probably just messing up with this crystal ball.


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Re: Santa aka Swami [Re: Sclorch]
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I predict slight rain somewhere in the world tomorrow

followed by sunny periods somewhere else

:cool:


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Re: Santa aka Swami [Re: deff]
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I predict a jester may or may not reappear.

I got a hardy ban once. I thought I didn't care because I was moving out of here anyway. Some people had touched me though and I came back to reconnect with them and have met new people too. I'm glad I did and I hope swami does too.

So many come here thinking we are on some obssesive mission to get to the truth, whose truth, what truth, that of modern science, modern goverment, modern religion, modern medicine? What about the truth of who we are, have been and can be? For me, it's about connecting and relating with other souls.

If we can't find a way to co-exist here in love, respect, good will and harmony, I can tell you, we arn't anywhere near finding or being in the truth, the one that really matters and never changes.


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.

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Re: Santa aka Swami [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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step by step
slowly he turned


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Re: Santa aka Swami [Re: Sclorch]
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Sclorch said:
I predict he'll call the mods on their bs and get permabanned.

But then again... I'm probably just messing up with this crystal ball.


Yea. I don't think he's going to take it very well.


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Re: Santa aka Swami [Re: zahudulallah]
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Swami knows how to find the humor in anything, including himself.

I doubt he'd come back here all heavy handed and hearted. That would make for a guaranteed perma Ban, he's smarter then that.


Zahud,

If he doesn't take it well and comes back with an emotional reaction, crying foul well then, maybe he will understand what others have felt like and maybe then he'll stop generating emotional reactions out of people.

Will he practice what he has been preaching? I doubt he'd come back if he can't.

How come so many support him in saying humans need to get control over their own emotions and then the same ones are all concerned about swami not being able to have a handle on his?

And they will say, "well how can he after being wrongly banned?" and I say, "well how can others when being wrongly portrayed by twisted words and interpretations of what someone really meant?"

If he does that to one of my posts again, I won't react to and from the illusion he created of me, I'll ask him to kindly go back to what I did in fact write and rethink how he came up with what he did and then maybe, he'll begin to understand how the mods came up with what they did.

If your going to dish it out, ya gotta be able to take it or stop dishing it out.

If everyone would kindly and peacefully call him on it, threads wouldn't blow up because the fabricated fuel would be diffused and the mods wouldn't have to get involved with school yard squabbles.

I've taken time to think about a lot too and I know he's reading this. He wanted to know what he did and here it is and he was doing it long before I came.

When he's looking to spar mental wits and can't find facts to challenge, which is fine to do if he has proof they are wrong or asks for proof of a claim to be fact, he makes up a reply to someone that reads as if the person he replied to said things they didn't and then a battle over an illusion made to look real ensues.

Like that time he did it with something I said about the Oregon anomaly. He's a tricky one cuz he got me and we started going back and forth as if I did say something I didn't. Thankfully, exclusive jumped in and said, "swami, I went back through the post and could not find where jiggy said that." I was like, if I didn't and I hadn't, then what the hell are we even dickering about. Arggggg he got me ha ha ha ha ha. I know to watch for it now so do all of you, including you swami because I know you are reading here.

If anyone reading this thinks that it was the persons fault for reacting to swami wrongly misportarying them, then you have to use the same measure of judgment if swami comes back with an emotional reaction for what you beleive was his being wrongly misportrayed.

Fair is fair and I think people get tired of a double standard that had been lurking underneath the surface here.

Maybe you sincerely never did it intentionally and its just a quirk of your mind looking for action. If you sincerely do not do it intentionally then let us help you see it in the future when you do and then you will know why you got called on stirring up so much chaos confusion and drama here.

Is spirituality and religion and philosophy more about getting to the truth of what we are and are not as spirit and consciousness inhabiting human form or about external material facts subject to change as science progresses?

This forum rocks more then any other and we all know it. We'll all get through this together as one big happy disfunctional mostly functional and thriving family full of so much love healing itself from the fray of existence.

We can do it! If swami doesn't come back at least I can say I learned more about myself while he was here and I am grateful for that. People come and go in out of our lives all of the time, some bearing goods and some bearing coal, and what we do with those gifts is what its all about.


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.

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Re: Santa aka Swami [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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i think if swami gets permabanned, we should all drink poison koolaid for swami solidarity.


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Re: Santa aka Swami [Re: Moonshoe]
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ha ha ha ha ha ha

That had to be a joke!

I'll kiss ya sweet dream if ya do. I won't drink poison for any cause, specially one as silly as this.

I don't go down with sinking ships either. There is always a life raft, grab who ya can, and get to shore. Only a captains pride and a fool would go down with the ship. Let the faulty ship sink, and keep your life because you can always build new ships to sail on with.

I think martyrdom for any cause is just like it says martyr-dumb.

Who started this scarifice to the gods nonsense anyway? Does anyone know the history of it?


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Re: Santa aka Swami [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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On an off topic note, without martyrs there is no progress. History has proven someone has to take one for the team.

Entirely unrelated note though, I could care less about the Swami ban. He gave me a D- on Logic. :grin:


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Re: Santa aka Swami [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
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"Martyr-dumb"

Exactly. No Kool Aid for this boy....

Have you ever been around a panicked swimmer? I have, and thank God for Red Cross life guard training. Shot to the chest, grab them, spin them, pull under the chin or by the hair. Anything but the death hug that takes you both down to Davy Jones Locker.

Edited by LunarEclipse (12/21/04 06:09 PM)

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Re: Santa aka Swami [Re: Sclorch]
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Sclorch said:
I predict he'll call the mods on their bs and get permabanned.


It sucks being so right.

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Re: Santa aka Swami [Re: Sclorch]
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"It sucks being so right."

Isn't the current ban for the puppet 10 days? Has he now been permabanned?


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Re: Santa aka Swami [Re: LunarEclipse]
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LunarEclipse said:
"It sucks being so right."

Isn't the current ban for the puppet 10 days? Has he now been permabanned?


Like the mods aren't chomping at the bit waiting to make that call.
Reason has left the building... so far Fireworksgod is now gone from S&P... if others leave... there's really no point in me waiting around for my ban.

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Re: Santa aka Swami [Re: Sclorch]
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fireworks said he was leaving for mainly non swami related reasons.

i dont think that things are so shitty that you need to worry about getting banned youself sclorch, just for being you.

lets hope not anyways

the first banning of swami was very iffy, the second was just terrible


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Re: Santa aka Swami [Re: Sclorch]
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I don't see myself being around much longer either if this continues.
I just don't feel a good vibe around here anymore.


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Re: Santa aka Swami [Re: Jellric]
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"I don't see myself being around much longer either if this continues."

In "real" life, when things aren't "fair", we have two basic choices:

1. Accept that life isn't always fair, and make the best of a bad situation.

2. Bitch and moan and cry woe is me, life isn't fair, and make a bad situation worse.

In sports, as in this forum, there are referrees (mods and admins) who interpret and enforce the rules.

Referees DO make bad calls. The KEY for the player or team that got a bad call is to tell the ref why they thought the call was bad in a diplomatic and unthreatening manner. Many refs will then proceed to make a bad call on the other team or a non-call to the team that got the first bad call. That's called making the best of a bad situation.

Now, if after the bad call, the player(s) and coach get in the ref's face, and keep bitching about how unfair the call was, the ref is likely to follow up that first bad call with a few more of the same. The ref might eject a player or two. The ref might remember next game how he was told he sucked, and the bad calls continue. That's called making a bad situation worse.

So, will Swami be able to accept his bad call and move on? Will his teammates pull him away from the refs for his protection and in the interest of the team?


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