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Santa, Christ, and the holidays
    #3458757 - 12/07/04 09:52 AM (12 years, 2 days ago)

What does this time of year mean to you? Is Christmas a bother with all the gift buying and wraping and decorating and batteries not included?

Do you feel the holiday spirit? Do you give to local charities or help out in soup kitchens? Do you get together with your family?

I think I am going to write a letter to Santa this year. I remember getting replies when I was a wee one, I wonder if I will get one this year.

I'm not entirely sure what this letter is going to contain, but I'll keep ya'll posted.


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Re: Santa, Christ, and the holidays [Re: CherryBom]
    #3459144 - 12/07/04 12:35 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

Well ma'am, I do to some degree feel the "Christmas Spirit"... I enjoy the general atmosphere, and I like the smell of pine indoors. I do not, however, help out at soup kitchens or such...

Anyway, Christmas to me is most enjoyable because I get to give things to others... spend time with family just sitting around and eating and having a good time. I like the lack of tension that is automatically created by such an environment.

Sure, there can be some tension from "gotta get my shopping done" and "gotta get my presents wrapped" but it is only there if you allow it to be there. I don't, generally... very few things are capable of stressing me out anymore. (The exception being physical discomfort or pain, probably.)

Anyway, I just like Christmas because it is a time of peace and rest... which is exactly what it SHOULD be about, when you REALLY think about it. So many people think that the modern version of Christmas is completely mis-led from the roots--the birth of Jesus. But the truth is, if (even in it's current incarnation) it can cause these ever important states of peace, love and rest, it is doing EXACTLY what it should, IMHO... because these are what Jesus was truly all about.

Like a Christian would tell you of God's love, peace and rest always exist for the taking... and some people will always ignore them and cling to stress and tension. ("I can't calm down, look at everything that's going wrong!!!") If you can't relax--be peaceful and restful--around Christmas, it is not because of the state of the way the holiday is practiced these days but YOUR personal state of mind.

Haha.. kind of got off subject there, sorry. :smile: But it is something to consider... it is yet another incarnation of the way that so many people forget their faith in light of being given something to harbor negative feelings for.

We need not harbor these negative feelings.. even if your logical mind tells you that you're being wronged, the truth is you can remain peaceful--or "in god's love".

I'm still waiting for everyone to realize that all religions are teaching the same message, and it isn't "everyone else is wrong".  :smirk:


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Re: Santa, Christ, and the holidays [Re: JacquesCousteau]
    #3459171 - 12/07/04 12:39 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

when I was a teenager
it meant
LSD and
all night parties
where parents had gone out of town.

as parents
we never go out of town.


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Re: Santa, Christ, and the holidays [Re: CherryBom]
    #3459176 - 12/07/04 12:41 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

Well ma'am, I do to some degree feel the "Christmas Spirit"... I enjoy the general atmosphere, and I like the smell of pine indoors. I do not, however, help out at soup kitchens or such...

Anyway, Christmas to me is most enjoyable because I get to give things to others... spend time with family just sitting around and eating and having a good time. I like the lack of tension that is automatically created by such an environment.

Sure, there can be some tension from "gotta get my shopping done" and "gotta get my presents wrapped" but it is only there if you allow it to be there. I don't, generally... very few things are capable of stressing me out anymore. (The exception being physical discomfort or pain, probably.)

Anyway, I just like Christmas because it is a time of peace and rest... which is exactly what it SHOULD be about, when you REALLY think about it. So many people think that the modern version of Christmas is completely mis-led from the roots--the birth of Jesus. But the truth is, if (even in it's current incarnation) it can cause these ever important states of peace and rest, it is doing EXACTLY what it should. IMHO.

Like a Christian would tell you of God's love, peace and rest always exist for the taking... and some people will always ignore them and cling to stress and tension. ("I can't calm down, look at everything that's going wrong!!!") If you can't relax--be peaceful and restful--around Christmas, it is not because of the state of the way the holiday is practiced these days but YOUR personal state of mind.

Haha.. kind of got off subject there, sorry. :smile: But it is something to consider... it is yet another incarnation of the way that so many people forget their faith in light of being given something to harbor negative feelings for.

We need not harbor these negative feelings.. even if your logical mind tells you that you're being wronged, the truth is you can remain peaceful--or "in god's love".

I'm still waiting for everyone to realize that all religions are teaching the same message, and it isn't "everyone else is wrong".  :smirk:


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Re: Santa, Christ, and the holidays [Re: CherryBom]
    #3459185 - 12/07/04 12:44 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

I dislike this time of year. I like how people get all "giving" by going to soup kitchens and stuff, but where are they the other 364 days of the year?

I dislike how commercial the holiday is yet they still try and pass it off as spiritual in some way by bringing Christ into it. It's a joke.

I like the days off from work though.

:sun:


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Re: Santa, Christ, and the holidays [Re: bf6]
    #3459278 - 12/07/04 01:15 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

I agree it is a cop-out to only be a giving person on Christmas... but that's a broad over-generalization and makes a lot of assumptions. You say "Where are you the other 364 days of the year?" but really, you don't know any better than I do where they are. They could be at the hospital saving lives. They could be saving the rainforests.

Assumption is a very dangerous thing, and it leads to negative thinking when negative thought is not necessary. If you have specific situation where someone says to you "I go to soup kitchens to help out, but only on Christmas... the rest of the time I sit around my apartment smoking crack and kicking my dog." THEN you have something to target... but don't make broad over-generalized presumptions JUST for the sake of having something negative to dwell on.

Like I said, I agree that it is a cop-out if you are only a giving person on Christmas... but your statement makes a major assumption about the nature of every person. I don't go to soup kitchens on Christmas, and I don't go on other days either. Does that make me even worse than those who only go on Christmas?? I assure you I am a very compassionate person, and I consider myself pretty selfless... and yet your presumptions would have me at an even lower mark than someone who only goes to soup kitchens on Christmas.

Assumptions = Dangerous.


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Re: Santa, Christ, and the holidays [Re: CherryBom]
    #3459450 - 12/07/04 02:07 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

Do you want to come sit on Santa Swami's lap little girl?  :heart:


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Re: Santa, Christ, and the holidays [Re: Swami]
    #3459712 - 12/07/04 03:04 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
Do you want to come sit on Santa Swami's lap little girl?  :heart:






:shocked: :eek:


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Re: Santa, Christ, and the holidays [Re: CherryBom]
    #3460392 - 12/07/04 05:32 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

This is the time when we all are to set aside our differences and love one another. To give and care less what we receive.


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Re: Santa, Christ, and the holidays [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3460427 - 12/07/04 05:42 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

This is the time when we all are to set aside our differences and love one another. To give and care less what we receive.

I myself am going to try from now on and make every day like those surrounding Christmas for real :smile: I am just now FINALLY learning that it truly IS better to give with no thought of recieving ANYthing in return :smile:


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Re: Santa, Christ, and the holidays [Re: FreakQlibrium]
    #3460452 - 12/07/04 05:47 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

I leave my porch Christmas lights on year-round now like every good redneck...


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Re: Santa, Christ, and the holidays [Re: Swami]
    #3460563 - 12/07/04 06:12 PM (12 years, 2 days ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
I leave my porch Christmas lights on year-round now like every good redneck...




Aughhhhhhhhhhhh So do we Ha ha ha  ahheeehehehehhe :grin:


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Re: Santa, Christ, and the holidays [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3463544 - 12/08/04 09:48 AM (12 years, 1 day ago)

Forgive me, it wasn't my intention to come off negative. I certainly wasn't speaking of anyone in general when I mentioned that.


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Re: Santa, Christ, and the holidays [Re: CherryBom]
    #3463574 - 12/08/04 10:06 AM (12 years, 1 day ago)

if by the "christmas spirit" you mean rabid consumerism.. then no I don't feel it.

Personally I think people should be loving and giving to one another year round, but that's crazy talk.. there I go being crazy and unrealistic again.


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Re: Santa, Christ, and the holidays [Re: Shroomism]
    #3464018 - 12/08/04 12:37 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

I love the presents
i hate buying them

I love the Disney X-mas special
I hate all the speeches and old crap

I love the food
I hate the overeating:P

I hate the X-mas spirit and holdiday kinda, cause everybody is walking around thinking everyone is happy and stuff. BUT NOT EVERYONE IS!

People are so bloody selfish, what about those who live on the street?
Do something for them giving them just a little bit better x-mas!
Think of others!


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Re: Santa, Christ, and the holidays [Re: RiffSki]
    #3464260 - 12/08/04 01:37 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

I love the Christmas "tree".



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Re: Santa, Christ, and the holidays [Re: Swami]
    #3467113 - 12/08/04 10:02 PM (12 years, 1 day ago)

Oooo! Pretty!


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