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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Are you capable of killing?
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In what circumstance other than war/self-defense would you consider taking another's life?


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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: Swami]
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I don't kill bugs, let's put it that way :wink:


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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: deff]
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In what circumstance other than war/self-defense would you consider taking another's life?

maybe a close friend that would have terminal cancer, and in much pain.


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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: spudamore]
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Other than war? Would a rebellion be counted as a war? If not, I couldn't kill another person unless they were a direct threat to my life.

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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: spudamore]
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maybe a close friend that would have terminal cancer, and in much pain.

If you were a "true" friend you would take their life before the emotional shock of diagnosis and physical pain set in. Prevention is where it's at.


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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: Swami]
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i might once have killed a fly!  :eek:


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Disclaimer!?

Edited by Gomp (11/12/04 04:01 PM)

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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: Swami]
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If you were a "true" friend you would take their life before the emotional shock of diagnosis and physical pain set in. Prevention is where it's at.

what makes you say that for???

isn't it best to let a person live as much as possible until the physical pain is a hinderence on their life???

have you have anybody close have cancer???


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Edited by spudamore (11/12/04 04:05 PM)

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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: spudamore]
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pain is never a hinderance per se, just a difference in reality

if you can't make peace of any situation, then you're never truly at peace :cool:


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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: spudamore]
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And YOU decide when they have had enough pain? As soon as your friend moans do you pounce on him with a pillow?


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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: Swami]
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Swami, I think the idea was that the friend in question would have requested it.

I could be wrong, though.

As for my response: Similar to deff's, I don't even like to kill bugs. I do kill mosquitos, though.. because they carry diseases that I'm really not too keen on catching.

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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: deff]
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so i can break numerous bones in your body, and thats not going to have a hinderence on your life?


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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: Swami]
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This is something I don't think I'll ever know if/until I am faced with a situation where I have to decide. I think I would kill in self-defense, if there was no where I could run, but even that idea gives me a mild queasy feeling.

Actually, no. I don't think I would be capable of killing anyone unless my life was in immediate danger by a specified person. Even then, I think I would save the kill for the LAST thing I try. I'd like to think I'd just incapacitate the person in a way so as to NOT kill them...but being a small guy means I don't have much chance of doing that.


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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: spudamore]
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And YOU decide when they have had enough pain? As soon as your friend moans do you pounce on him with a pillow?


so sorry for not being specific.. please point out where i said i decide that i think that they have had enough...


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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: trendal]
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Indeed, Tren.. a wise man once said... "Aim for the leg."

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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: trendal]
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""so i can break numerous bones in your body, and thats not going to have a hinderence on your life? ""

is change a hinderence? :P


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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: Gomp]
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if it slows down or prevents you from living


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Edited by spudamore (11/12/04 04:16 PM)

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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: Swami]
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I would kill for food. Or if someone was pissing me off.


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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: JacquesCousteau]
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Do you wait UNTIL the mosquito resquests that you kill it?

What if the friend is delerious or emotionally distraught at the time? What if the friend is incapable of speaking? More importantly, what if he/she wasn't
really that good of a friend and you are in his/her will?


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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: Swami]
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I think these questions are subjective and cannot be answered without a specific situation being at hand.

I would use my best judgement. If I could not be sure that it was truly their wish, I don't think I would do it.

There's a good chance I couldn't do it anyway, even if I was positive that it was truly their wish. I was just trying to clarify someone ELSE's response.

And no, I don't wait until the mosquito requests it.

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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: JacquesCousteau]
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So because the mosquito has a slight possibility of carrying a disease that's usually very harmless (for folks our age), you deem it's life is worth killing?

To me, the act of killing a mosquito poses a much greater danger to it's life than that of them passing on an overhyped disease to us.

So if anything, maybe mosqitoes should kill us in self defense, under that logic?

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