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Re: Video: Martyrdom Bombing in Chechnya [Re: Zahid]
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Holy shit, that video was fucked up.

Zahid, do you understand the language, they were speaking?


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Re: Video: Martyrdom Bombing in Chechnya [Re: Skikid16]
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Only the Arabic parts.


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Re: Video: Martyrdom Bombing in Chechnya [Re: z@z.com]
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ahahahahahahah, I knew that was gonna happen.


Damn you bastardo.


Fucking 4 hours of sleep+ 7 hours of hurricane swell surfing= retard in action. :crazy2:


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Re: Video: Martyrdom Bombing in Chechnya [Re: Zahid]
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What's that, the "allah akbar" stuff?

What do you know they are saying?


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Re: Video: Martyrdom Bombing in Chechnya [Re: Skikid16]
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Correct spelling isn't necessary when attacking Muslims.

This is what will happen to you, Zahid, read the whole thing: http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/834641A5-3F08-49A0-90D2-885EFE28FF97.htm
US: Anti-Islam hatred at new high


Sunday 27 June 2004, 10:39 Makka Time, 7:39 GMT


Muslims and Arabs in America face increased hostility



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The recent beheading of two Americans have added fuel to the angry backlash against Arab-Americans and Muslims that began after the 2001 terrorist attacks.



The killing of Paul Johnson and Nicholas Berg triggered increased hate mail, verbal attacks and anti-Muslim graffiti.

Death threats against American Muslims have risen and mosques have been vandalised.

"Since 9/11, every time there is an incident overseas attributed to Muslims or Arabs, we go on orange alert ourselves," said immigration solicitor Sohail Muhammad.

"There are individuals here who are off the wall, who think that every woman who wears a hijab or every man named Muhammad is out to blow things up," he added.

Dissidents thought to have ties with al-Qaida in Saudi Arabia decapitated Johnson, an American engineer, after warning that they would kill him if the Saudi government did not release detainees. Berg, a businessman, met a similar fate last month in Iraq.

Anti-Islam sentiment

Following Johnson's death, anti-Islam signs surfaced around the rural New Jersey neighbourhood where he once lived. One read "Stamp Out Islam" next to a drawing of a boot over a crescent and star. Another, hung on a mailbox next door to Johnson's sister's home, was more detailed.

"There are individuals here who are off the wall, who think that every woman who wears a hijab or every man named Muhammad is out to blow things up"

Sohail Muhammad,
Immigration solicitor


"Last night I wasn't a racist, but today I feel racism towards Islamic beliefs," it read. "Last night Islamics (sic) had a chance to speak up for Paul Johnson, but today it's too late. Islamics better wake up and start thinking about tomorrow."

The New Jersey attorney general sent bias crimes investigators to the area, along with stepped-up state police patrols. The signs are gone now, replaced with hand-lettered placards on utility poles that say "Our prayers are with the Johnson family."

But more anti-Muslim graffiti appeared on Thursday at a Muslim man's home in Egg Harbour Township.

'Worst fears'

"It's really our fear coming true," said Faiza Ali of the New Jersey chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

"It indicates a hatred that could turn into something violent."

Relatives of Johnson, in a statement made through a church pastor after a memorial service on Saturday, said that they hope his legacy is one of peace in the land he grew to love during more than a decade abroad.

"When history is written on the war on terrorism, let Paul's death be the catalyst that led to thousands more Westerners working in harmony with people in the Middle East to ensure fear and barbaric acts against free peoples come to an end," Reverend Kyle Huber of Greentree Church said.

The day after Johnson's death, a coalition of Muslim groups in Paterson, the heart of New Jersey's Arab-American community, held a rally to condemn the killing

Mosques vandalised

A few days later, vandals tossed empty liquor and beer bottles at a mosque in Union City as congregants inside mourned a teenager who died in a car crash.


Some Americans have threatened
to behead Muslims in the US


"If they are throwing empty bottles today, they could be throwing rocks, or worse, shooting at us tomorrow," said Aref Assaf, president of the American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee's New Jersey chapter.

Two mosques in Florida were vandalised in the days after Johnson's killing.

In the Tampa suburb of Lutz, someone broke into the Islamic Community Centre and scrawled "Kill All Muslims" on the mosque's interior walls, then smashed windows. In Charlotte Harbor, someone vandalised a mosque's sign and left threatening phone messages.

In the St Louis suburb of Ballwin, Missouri, vandals painted a swastika and the word "Die" on the wall of the Dar-al-Islam mosque.

Mosque construction protested

In Texas, dead fish were dumped near the entrance sign to a mosque under construction in a suburb of Houston.

And in the Chicago suburb of Orland Park, residents urged officials this past week to reject a mosque's building application.

A Baptist pastor told a public hearing he feared it would attract Islamic extremists and violence. The centre was approved over boos and catcalls from the audience.

"I believe the time is coming when Muslims will not be safe inside the US borders," one man wrote to the Washington, DC-based Council on American-Islamic Relations.

"I see nothing wrong with us doing the same things to them that they are doing to innocent people."

"It is high time you people wake up and smell the blood," another man wrote to Assaf's group in New Jersey.

"Turn in the terrorists. They are your relatives, in a lot of cases. Cousin Omar. Uncle Mohammad. You know what I mean. Until you come forward to help us stamp out this vermin, you are as bad as they."


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Then shot in his head
All I know is dead bodies
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Re: Video: Martyrdom Bombing in Chechnya [Re: Zahid]
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What an awful thread.

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Re: Video: Martyrdom Bombing in Chechnya [Re: Skikid16]
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Skikid16 said:
What's that, the "allah akbar" stuff?

What do you know they are saying?


Allahu akbar means 'God is the Greatest'


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Re: Video: Martyrdom Bombing in Chechnya [Re: Divided_Sky]
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Thanks for contributing.


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Re: Video: Martyrdom Bombing in Chechnya [Re: downforpot]
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Correct spelling isn't necessary when attacking Muslims. 

Fair enough. 

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Death threats against American Muslims have risen and mosques have been vandalised. 

HAHAHAHAH, I'm not laughing because I think this is funny, just because it reminds me of what happened in my college town right after 9/11.  It was in tallahassee, I think the day or two after 9/11.  There was this redneck, sitting up at a local waterhole, getting wasted (in the afternoon, gotta love the south) and watching the tv in the bar.  Of course it was about the attacks and it was when it had been pretty much confirmed that Al Queda was responsible.  So said redneck starts spouting off anti muslim sentiment, as many of us did (I'll admit I was guilty as well), well he decides not just to talk, but to act, so he drinks some more beer, gets a cardboard box, writes some anti muslim sentiment as well as "BOMB" on the box, drives to the local mosque directly from the bar, and slams into the fucker, then fled the scene. 

Luckily, no one was hurt, and he was later found because of his big mouth at the bar, but it was just classic redneck reaction. :grin:


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Re: Video: Martyrdom Bombing in Chechnya [Re: Skikid16]
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Fucking awesome man. He should have packed made a bomb from fertilizer and packed his car full of that shit.


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"And I don't care if he was handcuffed
Then shot in his head
All I know is dead bodies
Can't fuck with me again"

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Re: Video: Martyrdom Bombing in Chechnya [Re: downforpot]
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While I can't agree with you, I also can't say he would be much worse than most of the Islamic terrorists.


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Re: Video: Martyrdom Bombing in Chechnya [Re: dickdeadly]
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dickdeadly, this forum has rules. I suggest you review them, especially the "no flaming" rule.

pinky


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Re: Video: Martyrdom Bombing in Chechnya [Re: Skikid16]
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Yeah, but would Zahid consider him a Martyr? That is the question.


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Then shot in his head
All I know is dead bodies
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Re: Video: Martyrdom Bombing in Chechnya [Re: Phred]
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I think it was origionally in OTD, then moved here, is there any way to see where the post was made?


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Re: Video: Martyrdom Bombing in Chechnya [Re: downforpot]
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downforpot said:
Yeah, but would Zahid consider him a Martyr? That is the question.

Well of course not, he's not doing in the name of Allah.

To Zahid's defense, he has in the past, stated terrorist that carry out attacks against non military targets are not Martyrs........


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Re: Video: Martyrdom Bombing in Chechnya [Re: Skikid16]
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The reference to "Ripple" means it likely started life in The Pub. I figured it might have been imported, which is why I phrased by comment to dickdeadly as a suggestion rather than a warning.

If he chooses to post more in this thread, he'll at least know what to expect.

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Re: Video: Martyrdom Bombing in Chechnya [Re: Skikid16]
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But other Muslims say they are Martyrs. I'll listen to the other Muslims.


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"And I don't care if he was handcuffed
Then shot in his head
All I know is dead bodies
Can't fuck with me again"

Edited by downforpot (09/15/04 09:22 PM)

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Re: Video: Martyrdom Bombing in Chechnya [Re: Phred]
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Gotcha, I was just looking out for that wiley punk.  :thumbup:


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Re: Video: Martyrdom Bombing in Chechnya [Re: downforpot]
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downforpot said:
But other Muslims say they are Martyrs.  I'll listen to the other Muslims.


You'll listen to anyone.  :rolleyes:


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Re: Video: Martyrdom Bombing in Chechnya [Re: Zahid]
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General Thoughts about this thread -

Pretty worthless. Interesting video. Zahid takes alot of shit for being Muslim, but you all need to realize that alot of what he says is just to witness the knee-jerk reaction and use that reaction as his statement (if that makes sense, if not it's the salvia). Saying it's a "cool video" doesn't mean he condones the actions, and if he does, hey, its a viable military target, hes allowed his opinion on things. Lots of knee-jerk reactions... k-j r's... then some attacks. Yup, pretty shitty thread, cool video. Any translations would be interesting Zahid. Neat bomb.


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