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OfflineZahid
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Re: Chechnya: Russia's War Against Muslims [Re: downforpot]
    #3080170 - 09/01/04 09:36 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Ok.


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Re: Chechnya: Russia's War Against Muslims [Re: Zahid]
    #3080176 - 09/01/04 09:37 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Zahid said:
Prepare for a life in the eternal hell fire. The Christians call it Brimstone, we call Jahannum.


Most Christians i know dont believe in hell. They think god is merciful and would never send anyone to "hell".

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Re: Chechnya: Russia's War Against Muslims [Re: downforpot]
    #3080190 - 09/01/04 09:39 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

The question is not for god to welcome you or not, the real question is, will you welcome god?


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Re: Chechnya: Russia's War Against Muslims [Re: psyka]
    #3080208 - 09/01/04 09:41 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Only if he gets me a fine ass wife, a good career, good kids, and everything else. And make sure I come back in one peace, that is a must.


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Edited by downforpot (09/01/04 09:41 PM)

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Re: Chechnya: Russia's War Against Muslims [Re: downforpot]
    #3080228 - 09/01/04 09:44 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

"...I'll kill so many muslims after I join marines..."

Why? you are blind my friend...


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Re: Chechnya: Russia's War Against Muslims [Re: HoodedForestDwellr]
    #3080234 - 09/01/04 09:45 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

"Most Christians i know dont believe in hell."
~I know ALOT of christians and they ALL believe in Hell.


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Re: Chechnya: Russia's War Against Muslims [Re: HoodedForestDwellr]
    #3080239 - 09/01/04 09:46 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, I realize that hatred has blinded me, but hey, I have to do it. I've wanted to spend time in the military since I was kid, I have to do it, it's in my blood.


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Re: Chechnya: Russia's War Against Muslims [Re: downforpot]
    #3080263 - 09/01/04 09:52 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

"I've wanted to spend time in the military since I was kid, I have to do it, it's in my blood." I thought the same way for years...then I started learning alot, and came up with my own views and very quickly came to the conclusion; since WWII every military action has been for nothing...I will go into the Military when their is a war worth fighting. It is ignorant people like you that cause the death of 1000s of people, inludeing your own. Wake up dumb ass and smell the oil.


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Re: Chechnya: Russia's War Against Muslims [Re: HoodedForestDwellr]
    #3080326 - 09/01/04 10:10 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

wow buddy, I never said the wars of today are just. I just want to spend time in the military and then move on, go to college, make a living, have a family. Gotta make sure I don't have a family too while I'm at war, I'm gonna have to keep my mind focused on the war.


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Can't fuck with me again"

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Re: Chechnya: Russia's War Against Muslims [Re: Zahid]
    #3080328 - 09/01/04 10:10 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Zahid said:
Prepare for a life in the eternal hell fire...



Humans create their own hell on earth, death is most likely merely a cessation of existence as a conscious entity and a living organism - nothing more than a return to the elements. Threats of hell or promises of heaven have no effect upon those of us who have thrown off the shackles of superstition and embrace the naked unknown, refusing to dress it in the illusory cloth of wishes and fantasy desired by so many mortal souls.


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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.

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Re: Chechnya: Russia's War Against Muslims [Re: Evolving]
    #3080339 - 09/01/04 10:12 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Hmmm.... might be time for me to repost the Richard Dawkins essay re faith-based missiles. It was a real humdinger and quite apropos.

pinky


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Re: Chechnya: Russia's War Against Muslims [Re: Phred]
    #3080820 - 09/02/04 12:45 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

why can't people realize that there are fanatics in all religions and beliefs? No matter what belief it is, there is someone out there who will take it to the extreme. Fanatical Christians who blow up abortion clinics or torture and kill people because of their opposing beliefs comes to mind... They never represent the mainstream but with the way we are treating the Muslim world, I can see the main stream beliefs of most Muslims leaning further towards fanaticsm. I also see non Muslims leaning towards a violent reactionary mentality in response to the terroristic acts carried out by Muslims...
Just remember, one person's terrorist is another's freedom fighter...
TC


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Re: Chechnya: Russia's War Against Muslims [Re: thieverycorp]
    #3080908 - 09/02/04 01:12 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

"one person's terrorist is another's freedom fighter..."
:rastamon: - Well Said


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Re: Chechnya: Russia's War Against Muslims [Re: HoodedForestDwellr]
    #3081583 - 09/02/04 06:29 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Whatever, that is just plain retarded. Rebels and terrorists aren't the same. You guys make me sick. I hope you have to go over to the desert some day and the filthy savages rip you apart.

Maybe if Muslims weren't so damned evil we would get along with them better. So I don't see much chance of peace untill we democratize them and then either their foolish faith will be thrown out like old bathwater, or they accept another folish but non-savage faith like christianity.

Which do you guys think is more likely to happen? I think the catholic church has a decent chance... They have a long history of civilizing savages.

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Re: Chechnya: Russia's War Against Muslims [Re: Zahid]
    #3082246 - 09/02/04 10:43 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Zahid, this is a good post. I have been reading about the Chechen conflict for awile and I see no problem with people fighting for their independence. I do have a problem with a giant imperial power blowing entire cities and villages to bits. And then people wonder why people have started to blow themselves up and commit terrible acts of terror. Its just a predictable response to having the shit kicked out of you for over a decade.

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Re: Chechnya: Russia's War Against Muslims [Re: Phred]
    #3082261 - 09/02/04 10:47 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

i must say ir eally hate richard dawkin's writing, what an arrogant prick. please don't post his evil and emotion based essays here.

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Re: Chechnya: Russia's War Against Muslims [Re: Buddha5254]
    #3082262 - 09/02/04 10:47 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

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And then people wonder why people have started to blow themselves up and commit terrible acts of terror. Its just a predictable response to having the shit kicked out of you for over a decade.




this is what I always talk about. In one breath many of you denounce the killing of innocent people then in the next breath you say that you understand why they're blowing up planes and killing innocent people. You're validating these terrorists.


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Re: Chechnya: Russia's War Against Muslims [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3082284 - 09/02/04 10:50 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

You understand why they do it just aswell as anyone else. That doesn't mean its right, but its hardly surprising that people are going to retaliate.

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Re: Chechnya: Russia's War Against Muslims [Re: deafpanda]
    #3082473 - 09/02/04 11:44 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

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That doesn't mean its right, but its hardly surprising that people are going to retaliate.




On the contrary, many get angry when Isreal, the United States and whatever country muslims target because they find it unfair. I just don't understand why many want to align themselves with the cause. Someone explain it to me. You never even see the masses of muslims speak out against these actions which makes many people question if terrorism isn't their policy. Sure you get 2 or three "clerics" say it's a bad thing but it then stops there.


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Re: Chechnya: Russia's War Against Muslims [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3082498 - 09/02/04 11:52 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

You do, actually. The Palestinians always denounce the Hamas bombings whenever they occur. I'm sure loads of regular palestinians approve of the bombings, but then loads of regular israelis approve of the israeli attacks. Both sides are fucked up.

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