d33p said:

But alex at least isreal didnt invade another country like saddam. O no wait they did. 

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Ha ha, good one!   

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Otherwise we would have found WMD.

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He didn't "bluff" anyone. There are no WMD there.

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Alex123 said:

Anyone with no ax to grind realizes he, and he alone, was responsible.

Don't be silly. Israel has broken scores of UN resolutions. No sanctions have yet been enforced. You talk as tho imposing sanctions is normal procedure.

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luvdemshrooms said:
had he not invaded Kuwait, there would have been no sanctions.
Anyone with no ax to grind realizes he, and he alone, was responsible.

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Alex123 said:
Don't be silly. Israel has broken scores of UN resolutions. No sanctions have yet been enforced. You talk as tho imposing sanctions is normal procedure.

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luvdemshrooms said:
Israel is not the subject here.

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GernBlanston said:

he has a few excellent points. It was concise, extremely well written and rationalized. While I obviously don't agree with his methods, there is something to be said for his arguments, to be certain.

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Alex123 said:

Pay attention now, the inability to find something is not proof it doesn't exist.

So you simply believe anything anyone says with absolutely no supporting evidence? If someone says "I believe there's an invisible little green man from mars behind you", do you believe them because you can't prove he doesn't exist?

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By the way, no one's commented on Osama's letter to the US above. It seems surprisingly logical and well written to me. Although I think terrorism is almost always wrong, does anyone disagree with his reasoning?

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Rhizoid said:
His reasoning seems to rely very heavily on reducing people to members of the groups he implicitly defines: Us and Them. Muslims and Everyone Else. And whenever something bad happens to Muslims, the blame is placed on Everyone Else, who are of course responsible as a collective.

Apart from that, his reasoning is very straightforward and even simplistic, like in all good propaganda.

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The "us" is indeed all Muslims; but it seems that Muslims from one country are a lot more united with Muslims from another country, than say Christians from one country are united with Christians from another country, so this is understandable.  The "them" is NOT everyone else, but rather just the United States and Israel.  And he goes through great pains to explain why he lumps US civilians in the same category as the US Government (basically because "the people" have the power to choose their Government).  In doing so, he demonstrates that he knows a lot more about our own Government than our average citizen.

Again, as has been already stated, I'm NOT suggesting that what Bin Laden did was right.  What I'm saying is that he had some very well thought out, rationalized reasons.  As a matter of fact, you accused his letter of being "straightforward and even simplistic like all good propoganda".  Now compare his letter to the reasons Bush gave for the attacks:  "because we stand for freedom and democracy".  Who's the one spouting simplistic propoganda???