Chiron098 said:

sure, whatever you say...

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Kloakk said:

JoeTherapist said:

This is exactly what I did. I’m glad using the tub was a good way. Just innoced some BRF with my practice prints. I have been doing swabs for agar but want to participate in cake wars, figured prints are better for making solution. And I want to start giving away some spores. 

Thank you so much! I have seen pictures of other people’s caps on foil in front of the hood, but it was probably just for handling.

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I remove the caps after 24 hours, then let the prints dry for 2-4 days inside the tubs. When I'm ready to fold the foil I usually do it in front of the FFU, how much it helps I'm not really sure, but why not

Making a spore syringe work both ways, sometimes I'll scrape spores in a shot glass, other times I'll take two swabs(one with spores) and rub them in the solution.

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Yeah I was not trying to say that you can't use a syringe and modified lids and or injection ports. I just wanted to share how I have done it and that in my opinion it is the path of least resistance for me, and it keeps it simple and with less "stuff", I got enough cult stuff and enough steps already that helps me tell myself "nah, I'll do it tomorrow"

Find your way and if it works it works

JoeTherapist said:

I saw those techniques! I will use them eventually. I have Hillbilly Pumpkin fruit that like to grow super tall I trim some swabs from for my first marketplace offering.

Do you have a casing that’s up to date? I need to figure one out for my ATL 7’s. They are colonizing faster than I expected. Just harvested the stones and I’m going for stoned gummies using active tea. The tea is in the dehydrator right now, I hope it’s active, fingers crossed!!

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Chiron098 said:

you are not triggered right bro?

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I havent been a part of this "conversation" I just finished reading the last 3 pages and I can tell you from experience I sort of see myself a little bit in your frustration about the need to "know" the answers to all of your legit questions/theories/speculations/at times nonsensical demands for a specific answer that you want to land on.


Trust me i've been almost there at some point early on when my account was new, but unlike yall I have too thi (almost no skin) so I often times want to keep interrogating others that have a ton of experience but eventually Im affraid to keep pressing cause I cant handle the backlash


So....


Here's my tip for you: Do what I did, "interrogate" and "demand" science from the experienced growers but DO OWN EXPERIMENTS with all of these topics youre asking about, and ONLY when you've exhausted the "knowledge" from TESTING EVERY LAST theory for yourself in your own lab with your equipment and your standars, ONLY THEN make readable posts with lots of pictures and results and THEN start asking for INPUT...

That way when growers see that you're not possibly just wanting to argue and contradict but when you clearly ARE DOING what you're talking about then everyone will happily chime in and have much more tolerance with "greedy demands for more knowledge"

Awfullotofshrooms said:

So I posted a pic of a fuller canopy a few days ago of this cube variety I got labeled as toque F13 and this is from spore. If this isn’t toque which some have said it is probably not what could it be? Everything else I got from them was what it said to be so I’m not sure I’m just super curious what I’m growing

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If it is any Toque F(X) I would assume it reverted back to a brown cube. If it is not Toque then it is A brown cube, I'm sure that helps answer your question

Chiron098 said:

well, the point i was making was not agar vs LC, but asking to explain why one would be less contam prone than other. and it was more about sterile techniques either way, instead of the medium.

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BeefExtreme said:

We arent. We do this. We offer. We arent.
We have. we all. we feel.
We have.

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When one "experienced" grower on shroomery thinks something they all instantley think that and feel the same way and talk simultaneously this is some Rick and Morty lost episode where everything went wrong in a horrible experiment


now im not disagreeing with respecting everyone in a public forum, no one should ever INTERROGATE and DEMAND anything from anyone of course but last time I "interrogated" a TC (and almost always I send to their inbox) I think around a month ago I needed to know a list of very specific detail surrounding the grain jar colonization of his I saw in that period in  Cult POTD thread, I was asking:

"how much water he uses when making LI, and what container"
"how much of a culture per jar of LI"
"How many ml roughly per QT is poured"
"roughly how much of a fragmented Agar Culture he estimates is received in each qt jar"
"bla"
"bla"
"bla"

And then even some more questions, but nicely organized not a long message, and of course at the end I write "im not noccing grain with LI yet and wont be doing that until who knows maybe later this year so write back whenever you want or dont, im cool either way, and see ya around in MC"


Something about the pics of his colonizing grain jars just spoke to me in such a way that I started almost obsessing with wanting to know AT LEAST some rough estimates on his procedure, and if one or two VERY VITAL questions (for my tickling brain) would get left unanswered id feel like my attempt to gather this info failed, cause its a package deal thing for me


Occasionally I get replies quickly, occasionally much later, and occasionally I dont even get a reply. Sometimes the lack of replies comes from posters that arent very active sometimes active posters just dont reply when I ask cult related stuff in PM, and of course I dont send more than one PM if I dont get a reply.

Chiron098 said:

my experience with agar is zero, nothing. never done it.

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Kloakk said:[/]

I have a casing recipe sure, I am one of few that does this casing and it came to be because I can't get peat, but I use this casing for everything that needs one and it hasn't failed me yet. I would add that I've never grown any stone producers, so keep that on mind, but here it is.

- 60% Coir
- 30% Sifted Cactus Soil
- 10% Vermiculite
- 1g/l Calsium Hydroxide

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JoeTherapist said:

Thank you! I have seen the calcium hydroxide or lime in some recipes. Could I use calcium sand to replace it? What is it for? Do you have a brand of cactus soil that works for you?

I appreciate your input. With what I have seen about the stone potency debate I’m really just seeing for myself how active the active tea is from stones, then wanting to get some fruit to print/consume for the sake of experience. I don’t see why that casing wouldn’t work just fine!

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