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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Kloakk]
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I’m curious as to what causes it. Likely a contam of some sort, but maybe not something that inhibits growth when spawned to sub? Like, maybe something cube myc is comfortable sharing space with, maybe symbiotic?

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: AstroSporeFiend]
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AstroSporeFiend said:
I’m curious as to what causes it. Likely a contam of some sort, but maybe not something that inhibits growth when spawned to sub? Like, maybe something cube myc is comfortable sharing space with, maybe symbiotic?


Turns out it's more like your shit is brown, well yeah it is supposed be be brown, if it's white, call a doctor kind of thing :muppet:


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Some fungi are only edible once.”
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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: AstroSporeFiend]
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AstroSporeFiend said:
I’m curious as to what causes it. Likely a contam of some sort, but maybe not something that inhibits growth when spawned to sub? Like, maybe something cube myc is comfortable sharing space with, maybe symbiotic?


I've noticed that with ochraceocentrata (what I thought was natalensis) it almost seemed like it carried weird things with it over multiple generations. agar looked weird allt eh way up to spore print, and it still looked weird after a couple of those rounds. but it always grew huge mushrooms lol


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: jbgtaa]
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Kloakk said:
AstroSporeFiend said:
I’m curious as to what causes it. Likely a contam of some sort, but maybe not something that inhibits growth when spawned to sub? Like, maybe something cube myc is comfortable sharing space with, maybe symbiotic?


Turns out it's more like your shit is brown, well yeah it is supposed be be brown, if it's white, call a doctor kind of thing :muppet:


Fuck you, Kloakk. I love you. Lol

jbgtaa said:
AstroSporeFiend said:
I’m curious as to what causes it. Likely a contam of some sort, but maybe not something that inhibits growth when spawned to sub? Like, maybe something cube myc is comfortable sharing space with, maybe symbiotic?


I've noticed that with ochraceocentrata (what I thought was natalensis) it almost seemed like it carried weird things with it over multiple generations. agar looked weird allt eh way up to spore print, and it still looked weird after a couple of those rounds. but it always grew huge mushrooms lol


Yeah, I agree. I “know” my transfers have been ok.  So I’m ok with a weird generational bacteria. I wonder if that generational bacteria is always bad.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: AstroSporeFiend]
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I think there's probably all sorts of bacteria that ride along the whole time that aren't harmful or helpful, just there. I like your idea of a symbiotic bacteria because of course there has to be right? i mean, all they do is mutate to fit the environment, so it would be less likely that there isn't a single one that will symbiote with cubensis


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: jbgtaa]
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I’ve always thought that. No doubt there are baddies that fuck up the grow. But we always have to have gunk we can’t see. I could be wrong.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: AstroSporeFiend]
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I know there's symbiotic bacteria for woodlovers like azurescens in the wild though for cubensis idk can only assume there is in the wild. Probably why most attempts to introduce cultivated species into the wild to make permanent patches don't work out(entirely opinion and not fact based aside from the benificial bacteria in the wild for azures)

maby if we collected samples of the materials related species colonizes in the wild n attempted to colonize it with a cultivated species or whatever u Wana call ur mutants or hybrids these days lol.

U might see some success then take a clone from one of those to grow indoors who knows might be more resistant xD might carry over the wild beneficial bacteria if there is any. (This is entirely experimental and unproven n probably a terrible idea)
N

The real pipe dreams if u make it that far I wonder if u can colonize that said benificial bacteria if it exists to introduce to other varietys if it's compatable through more experiments 😍


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An enigma some caerulescens n a mono 😎

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: bloodssonnew] * 2
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A good microscope would solve this.


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Agar Plates and Removing Hidden Contaminants - A Visual Notebook
Recognizing Contamination in Grain Jars - A Visual Notebook
Contaminated Condiment Cup Cleanup v1.0

Green Cap Pheno Isolation

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: DV8DUG]
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Yea that's on my wishlist next to the flow hood from Santa 😢


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An enigma some caerulescens n a mono 😎

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: bloodssonnew] * 5
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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Mackload]
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Hey all
I have an Agar question but have already posted about my question elsewhere...
I guess I shouldn't spam this site with redundant posts (I assume that's not cool)
but the Noob Forum seems kind of inactive.. I also posted in a thread called "Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers",  but if it's ok for me to ask again here-
is it not okay if the agar I bought has these ingredients??
ingredients:
Glucose, agar, konjac powder, thickening agents (polysaccharides)  ?


TYIA and sorry if I'm doing this wrong
also sorry about username :crazy:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Ishitoutofmydick] * 1
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Time to get going again!



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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: bloodssonnew] * 4
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bloodssonnew said:
I know there's symbiotic bacteria for woodlovers like azurescens in the wild though for cubensis idk can only assume there is in the wild. Probably why most attempts to introduce cultivated species into the wild to make permanent patches don't work out(entirely opinion and not fact based aside from the benificial bacteria in the wild for azures)

maby if we collected samples of the materials related species colonizes in the wild n attempted to colonize it with a cultivated species or whatever u Wana call ur mutants or hybrids these days lol.

U might see some success then take a clone from one of those to grow indoors who knows might be more resistant xD might carry over the wild beneficial bacteria if there is any. (This is entirely experimental and unproven n probably a terrible idea)
N

The real pipe dreams if u make it that far I wonder if u can colonize that said benificial bacteria if it exists to introduce to other varietys if it's compatable through more experiments 😍


No psilocybe species have any symbiotic relationship with any organism. The entire genus is saprotrophic. They fruit off DEAD organic material. Every single species in the genus works like this, including all woodlovers, exotics, and dung lovers. Successful fruiting is based entirely off temperature, proper hydration, nutrient source, and nutrient depletion. After that, fruit morphology comes down to additional things, like lighting, fae, genetic isolation, etc.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: PhenoDreamers] * 9
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This is what I believe to be the first 100% clean pan culture I’ve had in the last 8 months and possibly ever.  It’s a clone that took a 20 minute syringe filtered h2o2 soak and a trench to get it.  No brown shit or biofilm.  Just myc and agar.



1% MEA.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: fahtster] * 1
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Looks really good dude nice work!

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: PhenoDreamers] * 6
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The crud in the agar is brf. Don't freak out.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Nichrome] * 2
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:neat:  looks like you’re growin a used candle someone forgot to blow out

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Ishitoutofmydick]
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Ishitoutofmydick said:
Hey all
I have an Agar question but have already posted about my question elsewhere...
I guess I shouldn't spam this site with redundant posts (I assume that's not cool)
but the Noob Forum seems kind of inactive.. I also posted in a thread called "Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers",  but if it's ok for me to ask again here-
is it not okay if the agar I bought has these ingredients??
ingredients:
Glucose, agar, konjac powder, thickening agents (polysaccharides)  ?


TYIA and sorry if I'm doing this wrong
also sorry about username :crazy:


I went back to Nijiya asian supermarket and they have agar-agar only packets as well, so I learned don't look at the shelf label-look at the ingredients (which are labeled additionally in English even though it's an asian supermarket..I'm dumb for not thinking about that, I know)
I was just rushing and anyways hope this helps anyone else

would be good to know any major retailers or any sure fire products one can get locally (not online whatsoever) like kroger chains, health stores, etc in the LA area. Thanks all for being here


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: fahtster] * 1
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fahtster said:
:neat:  looks like you’re growin a used candle someone forgot to blow out



this is exactly correct :rofl:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: fahtster]
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fahtster said:
This is what I believe to be the first 100% clean pan culture I’ve had in the last 8 months and possibly ever.  It’s a clone that took a 20 minute syringe filtered h2o2 soak and a trench to get it.  No brown shit or biofilm.  Just myc and agar.



1% MEA.


Could you explain a ‘20 minute syringe filtered h202 soak’ just a bit?
Thank you:mushroom2:


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