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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Archespore]
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Archespore said:
If you mean the little tendrils it's just horny for food bro



Fortunately, it has plenty :sunny:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Archespore] * 2
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Archespore said:
You haven't had any issues using red food coloring in your agar? I wanted to use some but found out the red dye has antifungal characteristics so I never tried it



None that I can recall and I've used purple and red a lot in the past. :mushroom2::heart:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Blizzloo] * 3
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My tissue samples are always more spiky than regular agar transfers, idk why. Here's a couple pics, not the same plate




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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Archespore]
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Archespore said:
My tissue samples are always more spiky than regular agar transfers, idk why. Here's a couple pics, not the same plate






Thx 👽

Archespore said:
(...)I wanted to use some but found out the red dye has antifungal characteristics so I never tried it



And for red colour for agar, Im using E124 and its perfect for making red dishes, everything grows as good as on uncolored ones

Edit: As for non EU users, its Cochineal Red A or Brilliant Scarlet 4R or C.I. Food Red 7 and apparently its banned in US


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Edited by Blizzloo (03/16/26 08:13 AM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Blizzloo] * 8
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We are preparing Azur for the summer.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: angamshroom] * 1
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Bisporus T1


TTBVI spore plate


Azurescence T4


How does all my agar look?
I had to make transfers because there was bacterial contamination on my bisporus plate and mould continuation on my azurescence.

I'm also finding that every time I make no pour agar in the reusable pp5 sauce cups, they're quite wet. I don't put a hole in the side and I use the instant pot for my agar high pressure for 30min.
There is usually no continuation, but they always come out so fkn wet


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I eat a few.  should be real tender.  Its tasty.  No starchiness or crunchiness.

Edited by el boso (03/16/26 07:46 PM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: el boso] * 2
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Sniffing bottle stills smells like coffee.
The effect is also underwhelming.
:shrug:



Edit: backlight wasn’t the move. :thumbup:



Edited by ModularMind (03/17/26 12:21 AM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: pickle_jars]
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pickle_jars said:


x7x+ germ plate, with a distinct S from my swab path.

Distilled water, 1% potato starch, 1% telephone, 1 drop blue and 2 drops green.



Groovy and robust. Is that from the spores I sent?

In the thumbnail I thought that looked like teeth, like a long curved row of molars from the top, from inside the mouth. Now I can't unsee it.

Here's how to get your camera to focus on the mycelium instead of on the top of the plate:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/27726375#27726375

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: nektar61]
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el boso said:
Bisporus T1


TTBVI spore plate


Azurescence T4


How does all my agar look?
I had to make transfers because there was bacterial contamination on my bisporus plate and mould continuation on my azurescence.

I'm also finding that every time I make no pour agar in the reusable pp5 sauce cups, they're quite wet. I don't put a hole in the side and I use the instant pot for my agar high pressure for 30min.
There is usually no continuation, but they always come out so fkn wet



The pans look good.  With the pp5 containers, I often had to dump out condensation before transferring anything into them.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: nektar61] * 1
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Yes, that's from your x7x+ print. This plate used a swab on the print, with the other germ plate I scraped the print with my scalpel and then cut through the agar. That germed within a couple days, but this one looked more interesting. To me it looks like the underside of an octopus tentacle, but molars makes sense too.

Noted, about the focus. I didn't worry about it too much because these Microppose pp5 plates are a bit cloudy anyway (even without the condensation), and the swabbing arc was still plenty visible. The Vabiooth pp5 plates are clearer, but they're both reusable and feel like an improvement from pre-poured mini-twists.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Tormato] * 2
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Hi all, I've poured my very first agar plates to try tissue cloning from Golden Teacher growkits. I was aiming for a 3% light malt extract (and 2,5% agar) recipe, but realized only during pouring that instead of malt extract, I mistakenly ordered malt flour that won't dissolve and causes the darker freckles you see in the pictures. I used green food color gel.

Despite the malt mistake, I placed three tissue samples from the same mushroom on a fresh plate each (forgetting to sterilize the blade before taking samples 2 and 3 :/), and this is what came out after a week. I've read DV8DUG's great great notebook on identifying contaminants on agar (https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/29052121), but am still quite unsure whether my cultures are clean, as there seems to be rhizomorphic growth (though with little contrast), but there is also a matte finish in front of the leading edge. What do you think, are they clean? Might there be too little nutrition due to the use of malt flour instead of extract? And what is the swirly pattern in sample 3? Advice much appreciated!

Sample 1 (taken with sterilized blade):






Sample 2 (taken with non-sterilized blade after sample 1):






Sample 3 (taken with non-sterilized blade after sample 2):





Edited by zib (03/17/26 11:01 AM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: zib] * 2
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If you’re working with the same culture, not sterilizing your blade isn’t gonna throw things off. Think of it like this…if you are taking samples from the same mushroom and just putting it to different plates, it is the same culture. What is the difference if you sterilize or not. If you were working with 3 different fruits you were taking cultures from, then I can see to sterilize the blade between each culture so you don’t cross contaminate from one to the other. As far as your cultures, they seem to be growing some transferable myc. I’d let them grow out a bit more and then take some e samples from the leading edge to new plates. For your first plates and transfers, I’d say you did pretty good. Keep up the good work.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: tree frog] * 1
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Thanks Tree Frog


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I eat a few.  should be real tender.  Its tasty.  No starchiness or crunchiness.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: AZ Starman2112] * 1
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Thanks Starman, makes perfect sense. Would like to say that were my exact thoughts during transfer :smile:

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: el boso]
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You haven't had issues with contamination even though your pressure is below 15 psi?


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Archespore] * 1
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I wouldn't recommend it but I just can't be arsed setting up my stuff outside so I just run it longer in the instant pot. I go by pudins agar tek, which might be wrong.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Archespore] * 2
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I do all my agar, brf pucks and grain prep in my instant pot. No contamination.

I know it’s not recommended but I’ll gladly switch to a true PC if issues arise. Until then, I’ll take the risk for science.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: bluespirit13] * 2
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bluespirit13 said:
I do all my agar, brf pucks and grain prep in my instant pot. No contamination.

I know it’s not recommended but I’ll gladly switch to a true PC if issues arise. Until then, I’ll take the risk for science.



Agree, instant pot here too, great value and use for agar, grain, lc prep. just need a bit longer compared to a true PC. when I get contam is sloppy SAB technique, not the instapot.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: AZ Starman2112] * 4
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AZ Starman2112 said:
If you’re working with the same culture, not sterilizing your blade isn’t gonna throw things off. Think of it like this…if you are taking samples from the same mushroom and just putting it to different plates, it is the same culture. What is the difference if you sterilize or not. If you were working with 3 different fruits you were taking cultures from, then I can see to sterilize the blade between each culture so you don’t cross contaminate from one to the other. As far as your cultures, they seem to be growing some transferable myc. I’d let them grow out a bit more and then take some e samples from the leading edge to new plates. For your first plates and transfers, I’d say you did pretty good. Keep up the good work.




You should sterilize after each sample, not just after each culture. Redundancy is a cornerstone of good sterile/aseptic practices.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: DV8DUG] * 1
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DV8DUG said:
AZ Starman2112 said:
If you’re working with the same culture, not sterilizing your blade isn’t gonna throw things off. Think of it like this…if you are taking samples from the same mushroom and just putting it to different plates, it is the same culture. What is the difference if you sterilize or not. If you were working with 3 different fruits you were taking cultures from, then I can see to sterilize the blade between each culture so you don’t cross contaminate from one to the other. As far as your cultures, they seem to be growing some transferable myc. I’d let them grow out a bit more and then take some e samples from the leading edge to new plates. For your first plates and transfers, I’d say you did pretty good. Keep up the good work.




You should sterilize after each sample, not just after each culture. Redundancy is a cornerstone of good sterile/aseptic practices.



Not disagreeing with you at all. What I was saying is that in this case he shouldn’t be to concerned of it or overthink it in this case.

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