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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman]
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ThurmanMurman said:
Gilmour Hendrix said:
What is the purpose of roughing up the top of the substrate with a fork? When would that technique be used?


If you harvest a flush and expect the sub has more to give but refuses to pin, the roughing of the surface stimulates new myc growth, which should encourage it to pin from there. Ive only ever had it happen once, but punishing it worked.

Beef uses the sprayer on the sink, which worked like a charm for me.


Thanks, TM!

I'm not quite understanding how the sprayer works, though. We don't spray anything off but only blast it with water?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Myndful]
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Who are you and why do you have tweeqs avatar?

I was like "wtf is tweeq asking this?" 🤣

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Gilmour Hendrix] * 1
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Gilmour Hendrix said:
What is the purpose of roughing up the top of the substrate with a fork? When would that technique be used?


Gilmour Hendrix said:
ThurmanMurman said:
Gilmour Hendrix said:
What is the purpose of roughing up the top of the substrate with a fork? When would that technique be used?


If you harvest a flush and expect the sub has more to give but refuses to pin, the roughing of the surface stimulates new myc growth, which should encourage it to pin from there. Ive only ever had it happen once, but punishing it worked.

Beef uses the sprayer on the sink, which worked like a charm for me.


Thanks, TM!

I'm not quite understanding how the sprayer works, though. We don't spray anything off but only blast it with water?


Just a quick zip across the surface with the sprayer is doing the same thing as a fork. You're busting up the surface myc so that it will stimulate fresh myc growth which should be more willing to pin.



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Edited by ThurmanMurman (12/27/25 02:49 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: ThurmanMurman] * 1
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Yup yup! I understand! Thanks, man!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Splittinghairs]
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Splittinghairs said:
Wait. Premade agar……. Like with the mycelium?


Yah there is vendor I used before that sells it. If its contaminated or damaged upon arrival they replace it for free just have to send pictures. It was decent stuff better than I did with spore and blank agar.

B+ sounds cool I was thinking about Syzygy too because it was sold by a company Terence McKenna worked with in the 1970s. I thought most APE was really fast growing mycelium.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: CaptainTrips420]
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You guys were right. The LC was definitely contaminated. My agar was clean and plates were sterilized properly (I have polypropylene ones) because I did a A2A transfer of 3 year old oyster cultures (they're not coming back to life) and only one of them has a bacterial contam.

But none of the same contam present in my JMF LC -> agar plates




One plate has white fuzzy growth with darker growth in the middle. Other plate has very dark looking growth with some white fuzziness on edges of blobs.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: CaptainTrips420]
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CaptainTrips420 said:
Splittinghairs said:
Wait. Premade agar……. Like with the mycelium?


Yah there is vendor I used before that sells it. If its contaminated or damaged upon arrival they replace it for free just have to send pictures. It was decent stuff better than I did with spore and blank agar.

B+ sounds cool I was thinking about Syzygy too because it was sold by a company Terence McKenna worked with in the 1970s. I thought most APE was really fast growing mycelium.


Nope. APE might colonize fast (ish) but you will pay for it with the fruiting and pinning stage.

People with fast APE runs are people who put the work in with agar and got dumb lucky too boot.

But the payoff is worth it


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: shroomerhumor]
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shroomerhumor said:
You guys were right. The LC was definitely contaminated. My agar was clean and plates were sterilized properly (I have polypropylene ones) because I did a A2A transfer of 3 year old oyster cultures (they're not coming back to life) and only one of them has a bacterial contam.

But none of the same contam present in my JMF LC -> agar plates




One plate has white fuzzy growth with darker growth in the middle. Other plate has very dark looking growth with some white fuzziness on edges of blobs.


How long did they sit before use?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: divineverdance] * 1
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divineverdance said:
One like dis

https://farberwarecookware.com/products/aluminum-stovetop-pressure-cooker


"dis" one doesn't seem to have a vent hole blow out plug.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Proposition 122]
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That pressure cooker is also really small, like it might be as tall as your hand. It won't hold enough jars or water to make it worth your time. You'll want something bigger.

The listing doesn't say what psi it will reach. Find one that says it will run at 15 psi.

And :whathesaid: a blow out plug is a safety feature worth having.

Edit: search for "pressure canner" not pressure cooker.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: divineverdance] * 1
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divineverdance said:
Stovetop PCs work or nah?


You really want a pressure canner, (a Presto or All American eg) not a pressure cooker. But they are usually to go on your stove.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Mackload] * 2
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:whathesaid:
The difference in the two is size, in order for it to be called a canner it needs to hold at least 4 qts, these are more heavy duty and hold temps better , cookers are smaller cheaper metal that heat and cool too quickly


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: tryptkaloids]
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How long did they sit before use?


I didn't make the LC myself. I bought an LC syringe from a vendor. Plates have been sitting since 12-22-25

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: shroomerhumor] * 3
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Does this look healthy?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SuburbanHerbin] * 2
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I’d send tf outta that :thumbup:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Soloist]
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Woohoo! Thank you :mushroom2:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SuburbanHerbin] * 7
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SuburbanHerbin said:
Does this look healthy?






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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DV8DUG] * 4
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DV8DUG said:



Man, I saw that movie because I was a Manson fan at the time :rofl:

Happy Shroomiversary DV8 :awedance:


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Kloakk] * 4
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Thank you. Didn't even realize that was today.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DV8DUG] * 1
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DV8DUG said:
Thank you. Didn't even realize that was today.


Well, the little shroom is now gone :uhoh: But here it's still the 28th so I hope it's the right day :lol:


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