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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Mr Piggy] * 23
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Had a busy few days in which I forgot to refill my fogger. By the time I remembered, a fair number of pins were yellow & crispy. Despite the lost coverage she’s lookin good


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Mr Piggy] * 2
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What yall think about this popcorn jar that has been sitting for months?  Semperviva





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If it smells ok was gonna sample some mycleliated grain this weekend

I have had very very few contam jars like almost none since working in front of flow hood and sterilizing the piss out of everything.  So thinking just subtropicalis gnarliness.  I've had some pretty messed up looking jars that smelled fine with this species


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I may not have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express, but I have taken 20 grams of fresh subtropicalis :smile:

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Hardhead] * 3
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hardhead43 said:
What yall think about this popcorn jar that has been sitting for months?  Semperviva





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If it smells ok was gonna sample some mycleliated grain this weekend

I have had very very few contam jars like almost none since working in front of flow hood and sterilizing the piss out of everything.  So thinking just subtropicalis gnarliness.  I've had some pretty messed up looking jars that smelled fine with this species


perfectly normal semp jar


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: W1llyWonka] * 3
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W1llyWonka said:
Unfortunately my first attempt got trich very early after spawning, is there any way trying to save tubs/substrate by moving them outside to nature/balcony or just simply trash it all?


It was easier to just trash em rather than trying to save. Today I was searching for one exact glass that I have and found it in use, didnt remember that I made with "left over" (8 jars, obviously little bacterial or something) grains from my earlier attempt. And ta-daa!

We have life!

Edited by W1llyWonka (06/12/25 01:58 PM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: chris77] * 3
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Thanks for the response.  I've got several wbs semp jars ready to go to coir tonight and think I will bust this one up, freeze dry it and then either make tea in the french press or  grind it into flour and make corn muffins with it this weekend.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: PhenoDreamers] * 4
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PhenoDreamers said:
I inoculated my poison dart terrarium with hoogshagenii


Did the poison dart frogs mind you messing with their terrarium? My Wifey just walks away from my projects, you might end up with a poison point in the posterior…

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: The Tao]
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My gnarly looking jar smelled normal and went into the freeze drier.  Probably will be a short cycle and done by tomorrow morning.

Going to sample grains monday night or tuesday morning.  From what I've read 1 level tablespoon of dried myceliated grains = 1 g dried cubes.  Thinking of starting with 2.5 tablespoons made into a tea and then sipping on it over the course of 45 minutes or so.  Figure 2.5 grams cube equivalent should be somewhere between 1.25 and 5g cubes given a 50% error factor or 100% error factor depending on how you look at it.  I can handle anything in that range no problem unless the mushroom gods decide to get froggy with me.  And if they get froggy then how high do you want me to jump?

Can anyone confirm that the myceliated grain trip is just as good as the fruit trip and has that special semp quality to it? 

I am working at getting some fruits, but still months away.  I just did my s2b yesterday, but jars looked and smelled great and this culture came from callmehippie.  My t2's are now growing on agar as well.  T1's sent to jars yesterday too.  I'm almost certain these were clean from get go from the culture I got.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Hardhead] * 2
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hardhead43 said:
I can handle anything in that range no problem unless the mushroom gods decide to get froggy with me.  And if they get froggy then how high do you want me to jump?

Can anyone confirm that the myceliated grain trip is just as good as the fruit trip and has that special semp quality to it? 



Astra, among others, has confirmed that it's on par with the fruit, trip quality wise. You won't be disappointed.

I would err on the side of caution when it comes to semps, at least until you get better acquainted. Everybody is different. You may prolapse your soul hole if you go in too cocky. Not everyone's cup o' tea. 🫣😅

Just recently SmellyHobbit, Mojavemyc, and Derrayld were chirping about their experiences with subtropicalis... It's few pages back & worth looking over. 👌🏻


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: ShitdickNancy] * 1
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ShitdickNancy said:
hardhead43 said:
I can handle anything in that range no problem unless the mushroom gods decide to get froggy with me.  And if they get froggy then how high do you want me to jump?

Can anyone confirm that the myceliated grain trip is just as good as the fruit trip and has that special semp quality to it? 



Astra, among others, has confirmed that it's on par with the fruit, trip quality wise. You won't be disappointed.


I would err on the side of caution when it comes to semps, at least until you get better acquainted. Everybody is different. You may prolapse your soul hole if you go in too cocky. Not everyone's cup o' tea. 🫣😅

Just recently SmellyHobbit, Mojavemyc, and Derrayld were chirping about their experiences with subtropicalis... It's few pages back & worth looking over.

👌🏻


Thanks,  I went back and found that.  I'm just talking smack on here.  When time comes to take them,  I am absolutely weak kneed with respect most of the time. 

I've taken too much in the past 3.5g ochra (whew) and definitely learned.  I was thinking about just taking 1 tablespoon as a test dose tomorrow morning and hopefully that won't build any tolerance for the monday night adventure and may given me a better idea of how to dose.  I'll certainly post up results on here.

I noticed on a the potency thread they showed how some semperviva had a lot of psilocybin and not much psilocin which bodes well for long term storage.  I noticed my mycelia did not bruise super dark blue so perhaps the main alkaloid is the psylocibin.......

I wonder how much myceliated grain one could obtain without having to fruit......I bet you could get a master grain jar and do quite a few grain to grain transfers before senescence became an issue.  I definitely want to get fruits though and prints so I can share some on here to give back to the community. 

I'm really glad yall are here.


https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/29245138#29245138


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I may not have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express, but I have taken 20 grams of fresh subtropicalis :smile:

Edited by Hardhead (06/13/25 07:56 PM)

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Hardhead] * 15
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Clone clone clone....We are still on the way to the best.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: angamshroom] * 2
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Damn, those are gorgeous plates. Looking at them makes me realize that the jars I knocked up with mine probably weren't clean enough.

Oh well, only one way to find out.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 22
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Allllllmost there 😮‍💨


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: MojaveMyc] * 6
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: the_chosen_one] * 4
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I don't understand how all of these can be recognized as semps?

Nipples?


These look like olivaceus to me:


Red?  Huh?


Brown?


Such varying morphologies, coloration, etc.  What are the commonalities that make these semps?

Also, it seems that concavity of the caps is maladaptive and an overextension/abnormality of genetic selection?  As well as non-straight stipes?

I mean, I don't doubt these are all Ps., but am I being impertinent in trying to recognize species?


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Dr. Smoke] * 13
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They change colors when mature.  These started like this..


And ended like this


I’m sure there’s also different phenotypes like most mushrooms

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: fahtster]
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Huh, interesting.

What do you make of the idea that production of alkaloids slows after the cap opens, and then the fruits put their energy into growth?

This would mean that harvest is best soon after the cap opens, rather than waiting for the first spores to drop?


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Dr. Smoke] * 5
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I believe the consensus is the opposite. I've read many reports on this thread that the longer you wait to harvest the more potent the fruits are.


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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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:whathesaid:

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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Dr. Smoke]
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Dr. Smoke said:
Huh, interesting.

What do you make of the idea that production of alkaloids slows after the cap opens, and then the fruits put their energy into growth?

This would mean that harvest is best soon after the cap opens, rather than waiting for the first spores to drop?



"It's my opinion that psilocybin is linked to reproduction.  As we see it most in fruit bodies.

Secondary metabolism in fruit bodies continues at least until spores are mature, which can happen after the veil breaks.  Psilocybin production is also a secondary metabolic process. So, my suspicion is that as long as spores are maturing psilocybin is being produced, since both are part of the reproductive process.

And spores can continue to develop after the first ones drop.



This isn't a cube, but a mature pan cap that was dropping spores. Some of the spores are still immature, the lighter colored ones that are still developing melanin.

Melanin and psilocybin are both secondary metabolic processes."- Tree Frog


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Some fungi are only edible once.”
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 7
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First box got a smidge of mold on the side. Took it to the outdoors, burned some holes in the bottom for drainage and sandwiched the sub between 2 half inch layers of compost with some grass seed. I dont expect it to fruit, but I feel like a kid playing in a sandbox with this stuff, so I'm gonna do it anyway. It's funny to me how I got a kick out of that more than I enjoy a lot of more "normal" things I could do. Thanks for coming to "Deep Thoughts with Thurman".



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Shine down upon the severed
Shine until the two become one

Edited by ThurmanMurman (06/14/25 06:20 PM)

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