GenericHero said:

Aw come on. We get good stuff from the Dems from time to time. Do they all use their positions to enrich themselves? Sure. Outside of the war and self-enrichment overlap they seem to be pretty different to me. The nlrb recently forced Starbucks to reopen three stores and give the employees 18 months back pay. Overseen by some Trump sycophant, I doubt that would have happened. Right to work comes to mind. Not many blue states with right to work laws. Just the one I think

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Bigbadwooof said:

GenericHero said:

Aw come on. We get good stuff from the Dems from time to time. Do they all use their positions to enrich themselves? Sure. Outside of the war and self-enrichment overlap they seem to be pretty different to me. The nlrb recently forced Starbucks to reopen three stores and give the employees 18 months back pay. Overseen by some Trump sycophant, I doubt that would have happened. Right to work comes to mind. Not many blue states with right to work laws. Just the one I think

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Part of the problem may very well be that the personality type of people on the left tends a lot more towards agreeableness *Adjusts his Jordan Peterson spectacles*. When the Dems continuously fail... we are more inclined to congratulate them on their sparse, minor successes, instead of insisting they do better!

At the end of the day, disagreeable people are the ones who will eventually get their way.

I am speaking of voters, not politicians, btw. Anyway... keep congratulating Democrats for NOT having shitty right-to-work laws... instead of insisting on joining the rest of the world with single payer.. see how far it gets us.

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Jordan Peterson and bill Maher want the democratic party to be centrist, to move away from progressive ideals. To become more Republican like, they advocate for the dems to be like they were in the 1980s.

The dems are already economically centre in every way that matters, they aren't progressive or heavily left leaning.

I don't know why GC keeps kiddy gloves on for the dems, but I don't know why you would make excuses for Trump either.

No one should be making excuses for Biden or trump, or Kamala.

Everyone should be grovelling at Tim Walz feet!!

Bigbadwooof said:

Part of the problem may very well be that the personality type of people on the left tends a lot more towards agreeableness *Adjusts his Jordan Peterson spectacles*. When the Dems continuously fail... we are more inclined to congratulate them on their sparse, minor successes, instead of insisting they do better!

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Bigbadwooof said:

At the end of the day, disagreeable people are the ones who will eventually get their way.

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Bigbadwooof said:

I am speaking of voters, not politicians, btw. Anyway... keep congratulating Democrats for NOT having shitty right-to-work laws... instead of insisting on joining the rest of the world with single payer.. see how far it gets us.

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GenericHero said:

Bigbadwooof said:

Part of the problem may very well be that the personality type of people on the left tends a lot more towards agreeableness *Adjusts his Jordan Peterson spectacles*. When the Dems continuously fail... we are more inclined to congratulate them on their sparse, minor successes, instead of insisting they do better!

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Dunno, by degrees I guess. You act like you expect a revolution or something. Probably not going to happen.

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Bigbadwooof said:

At the end of the day, disagreeable people are the ones who will eventually get their way.

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Okay Grandma wisdom

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Bigbadwooof said:

I am speaking of voters, not politicians, btw. Anyway... keep congratulating Democrats for NOT having shitty right-to-work laws... instead of insisting on joining the rest of the world with single payer.. see how far it gets us.

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I can congratulate them for more... Just wanted a quick example of the differences in attitude toward the working class.

I'll insist (whatever that means) all day long. Dunno what you are getting at really. If I complain and equate both sides on some drug forum we'll get single payer health insurance?

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Bigbadwooof said:

The rest of the world has managed universal healthcare... it's not so craaaazy or revolutionary of an idea tbh. You're just used to getting absolutely fucking nothing for your vote.

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That is sage wisdom, brother! Of the two parties, who are the disagreeable ones?

The ones that flipped Roe V Wade. The ones that started the Tea Party movement, and fundamentally changed their party.

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Dunno man. The squeaky wheels get grease... Unless they don't. It's not some physical law. It's silly

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Insisting means withholding your vote until they give you something to vote for. If the Democrats are going to jump on board with genocide, then they aren't worth your vote. Period.

I live in Michigan, which is a purple state. When Michigan voters vote "uncommitted" to send a message to Biden, the message is quite clear. You can also vote for a left wing 3rd party option.

The Democrats should lose this election. They pushed a senile old man on their constituents, instead of allowing for a primary to choose a proper candidate. The party leadership set us on this road, and we should not reward them for it.

We will survive another Trump presidency, regardless of whatever sensationalist madness you choose to believe.

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Idiotic