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A vote for Hillary... * 2
    #23579521 - 08/26/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

...is going to be a vote for more of the same -- the continued usurpation of the middle class and the concomitant growing inequality, as corporate profits continue to escalate out of control, while hardly any tax is paid on them.

Moreover, it's also going to be a vote for one of the most hawkish politicians on the scene today.  Massive saber-rattling across the globe, trillions spent on defense over several years, and more of the ethos that the U.S. is and should be the world's police.

I don't want Trump to win (at all), but I repeat: A vote for Hillary Clinton is a vote for the status quo, and the continued decline of American society.


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Re: A vote for Hillary... [Re: DividedQuantum] * 2
    #23580357 - 08/26/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Trump vs. Hillary: A Summation
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Hillary made the most irresponsible statement ever uttered by a presidential candidate when she declared the President of Russia to be the “new Hitler,” thereby raising tensions between the US and Russia to a higher level than existed during the Cold War.

We know that Hillary is allied with the neoconservatives and that her belief in the neocons’ ideology of US world hegemony is likely to result in war with Russia and China.




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Russia is ready to respond to any provocation, but the last thing the Russians want is another war.

the anti-Russian rhetoric emanating from the Clinton campaign, echoed by the mass media, hearkens back to McCarthyism and the red scare.




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Re: A vote for Hillary... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #23580755 - 08/26/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

From your second article
  "It will take time for each of the United States to neatly demolish themselves into their own footprints, like those three New York skyscrapers did on 9/11 (WTC #1, #2 and #7) but Russia is very patient. "
   
Why should I take anything that guy had to say seriously after reading that brain damaged conspiracy theory horseshit .


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Re: A vote for Hillary... [Re: psilynut]
    #23580834 - 08/26/16 04:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

What's the conspiracy theory you're referring to?  That the US is going downhill?


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Re: A vote for Hillary... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23580867 - 08/26/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The GMO "poison" bullshit and the WTC demolition theory.


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Re: A vote for Hillary... [Re: Enlil]
    #23580940 - 08/26/16 05:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I read the WTC line as a metaphor that the US is going down.  Though I'll agree "its population poisoned with genetically modified food" is a bit over the top.


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Re: A vote for Hillary... [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 4
    #23587021 - 08/28/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You see, normally when you get caught rigging an election, you drop out of the race...not Hillary. She happens to be winning it. She has already accepted hundreds of millions of dollars from special interests under the assumption that she will return the favor once elected. She can't go away, she is the predetermined winner. Too much money is involved at this point, if she doesn't become president heads will roll.

The corruption is blatant, the private server was created to intentionally hide her illicit dealings (newly discovered, previously erased emails are surfacing constantly), and her Clinton foundation accepted tens of millions of dollars from foreign donors while she was secretary of state. These people aren't giving 20 million dollars and expecting nothing in return, they are buying political favors. It is ironic that Hillary is purportedly commanding a significant portion of the female vote, yet is accepting money from Saudi Arabia, which is known for its horrifically discriminatory treatment of its women.

Hillary is a poser, a puppet, and a hatchetman for the establishment. A vote for Hillary is a vote for Tyranny.


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Re: A vote for Hillary... [Re: amp244]
    #23587091 - 08/28/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Also, I think this here is an absence seizure.



Oh and this is an Armani jacket that was originally priced well over ten thousand dollars, and she is ridiculing Donald trump for being out of touch.
http://www.snopes.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/hillary-clinton-armani-jacket-speech.jpg


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Re: A vote for Hillary... [Re: amp244]
    #23587132 - 08/28/16 02:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Couldn't have said it better, amp. :thumbup:


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Re: A vote for Hillary... [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #23587337 - 08/28/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe the world needs to see that a lessor woman is capable of just as much destruction and 'evil' as a lessor man..

The past 8 years showed skin color isn't a factor in how horrible you can be as a president.
As goes the history, women are seemingly next ....
:likeaboss:

Maybe the world will come to discover, after the dust settles, that it matters moreso who you are as a person, what your deeds are, and not so much about what you say or pander to regardless of gender/race.

So yeah... Sometimes the biggest life lessons are learned the hard way.
Of course, after some generations, everyone forgets a lot of hard lessons and the process begins again
:nicesmile:

The ultimate kicker is the people who get fucked over the most by these false leaders are their most vocal supporters.

The world's a zoo at times.
I've learned to just let go. It helps me sleep at night :smile2:


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Re: A vote for Hillary... [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #23590128 - 08/29/16 01:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't want Trump to win (at all), but I repeat: A vote for Hillary Clinton is a vote for the status quo, and the continued decline of American society.



I don't get it, obviously there are realistically only 2 choices so if you don't want Trump to win, that means you want Clinton to win. "Neither" isn't an option, it's either one or the other.


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Re: A vote for Hillary... [Re: Alyssa]
    #23590142 - 08/29/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That's very flawed logic.  One can easily not want either to win.


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Re: A vote for Hillary... [Re: Enlil]
    #23590192 - 08/29/16 02:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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That's very flawed logic.  One can easily not want either to win.



The result of one losing is the victory of the other, so saying "I don't want Trump to win" with the inevitable consequence of that in mind is the same as saying "I want Clinton to win". You can logically say "I don't think either one would be a good president", but one or the other will win.


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Re: A vote for Hillary... [Re: Alyssa]
    #23590198 - 08/29/16 02:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

It's true that one or the other will win, but that doesn't mean one has to want either to win.  It's true that you will die, but that doesn't mean I want you to die.


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Re: A vote for Hillary... [Re: Enlil]
    #23590256 - 08/29/16 02:29 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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It's true that one or the other will win, but that doesn't mean one has to want either to win.  It's true that you will die, but that doesn't mean I want you to die.



Fair enough, I see what you're saying, but I interpreted the statement to have been made within the framework of this universe, in which case the known consequence of the desired outcome would have to be taken into account (as in, saying "I want someone to murder you" implies that you want me to die). If an alternate universe can be proposed then "I want to drop an egg from the World Trade Center but I don't want it to break" or "I want neither to win" would be valid.


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Re: A vote for Hillary... [Re: Alyssa]
    #23590266 - 08/29/16 02:32 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

More fatally flawed logic.  I don't want trump to win.  I don't want Hillary to win.  Those two statements aren't inconsistent "within the framework of this universe."  They simply lead to the logical conclusion that something I don't want will inevitably occur.


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Re: A vote for Hillary... [Re: Enlil]
    #23590275 - 08/29/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Presidents impact nothing what so ever in large policies. This has been known since JFK actually tried to expose the private banks and people who were limiting democracy back then


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Re: A vote for Hillary... [Re: Maroon]
    #23590301 - 08/29/16 02:42 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

That's a bit overstated, but it is true that local and state elections are far more important to our daily lives.


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Re: A vote for Hillary... [Re: Enlil]
    #23590367 - 08/29/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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More fatally flawed logic.  I don't want trump to win.  I don't want Hillary to win.  Those two statements aren't inconsistent "within the framework of this universe."  They simply lead to the logical conclusion that something I don't want will inevitably occur.



The original statement didn't convey that to me, but I guess I'm considering only the intended meaning without looking at it from a strictly logical point of view. The way I look at it, "I don't want Trump to win" implies "I want Clinton to win" because this is accepted to be the inevitable consequence. To say what the OP was saying, to me would be "I don't want either of them to win" in which case an alternate universe in which this is possible has been wished for. I'm still not sure the OP wasn't saying she/he prefers Clinton despite not liking her.


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Re: A vote for Hillary... [Re: Alyssa]
    #23590374 - 08/29/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Even if he was, a preference isn't necessarily the same as wanting one to win.  If I'd prefer a broom in my ass to a chainsaw, that doesn't necessarily mean I want either.


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