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Re: Hillary wants us to hate on Russia [Re: Crumist]
    #23574935 - 08/25/16 02:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Russia prohibits observers, harasses voters, and has a turnout around 30%.



Here's a large list of voter suppression and poll problems in the US from the 2012 election alone.



None of my three are in that article.



There's actually two examples about blocking observers in the article - one in Ohio and one in Texas (search for "observers") and there's at least two examples of voter harassment in the article.  See updates 12 and 13.

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that an American website (several websites and organizations) catalogues these is a credit. That shit'd get you run out of Russia



Russia's constitution guarantees freedom of the press, unless it contains extremist content.  I was just there, and was astounded by the amount of anti-Putin news.  It won't get you kicked out.

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Is it ever ok to violently overthrow a democratically elected leader, especially with the backing of the US?  Is that what democracy is all about?



What is that video supposed to prove? So some extreme pro-Russian politician predicted a civil war in already unstable and revolutionary conditions? He accuses the US embassy of sanctioning the teaching 300 of Ukrainians how to use computers and facebook... ooooooh scary. As if an American could teach an Eastern European anything about the internet. His accusation != proof.



I think you missed the link in the very first sentence with a taped conversation of US officials planning Ukrainian governance after the coup.  Perhaps this timeline is more convincing:  A Chronology of the Ukrainian Coup

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Accusations of US lead ethnic cleansing and pro-Hitler indoctrination in 2014 Ukraine, yeah sure...



Ask Google whether large numbers Ukrainians are neo-nazi or not.  And do you deny that Ukraine is killing Russian speaking citizens in Donbass?

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Please cite the specifics of how Putin is doing this, and stop with the propaganda.



Then I link 5 articles and you dismiss them. Well within your rights, but this is tiring. Whoever the hell is reading will decide for themseves.



Fair enough, I simply pointed out that your articles weren't telling the whole story (for example the first article forgot to mention that the reason Putin transferred his money to a Russian bank was to protect it from US sanctions and the freezing of funds, which is EXACTLY what the US did after the funds were moved.

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Welcome to capitalism, my friend.  Darrel Issa (as an example) was a CEO now worth a half a billion dollars and is passing laws here in the US to enrich himself further.  Is it wrong for Russia to copy our model?




Differences between Issa (and other US scumbags) and Putin that are important to me. Issa is a nobody out of the spotlight, Putin is head honcho. Issa *was* CEO, Putin has neither disclosed nor divested as President, in fact he probably many plenty of acquisitions as president. Issa is worth .5 billion, Putin worth 20-200 bil (again, no one knows) And biggest point, I (and most Americans, likely) detest Issa and the revolving door politicians/lobbyists, but you are defending Putin and denying his corruption. This is not capitalism, it is theft on an epic scale.



I agree - I'm just saying it already happens in the US, and if Trump becomes president, then we'll have a roughly equivalent situation.

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Tell me about real Russian action.  The only country they should be scared of is the US.  As has already been pointed out, Ukrainian lives have gone to hell after the US backed coup.



US state media on Estonia
I can find similarly gloom articles about the US and Russia.



I think the comments at the bottom of your link do a great job of addressing this, but I asked for what action Russia took against other countries, not whether other countries were scared of Russia. 

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Ukraine must of had a revolution because of how great a paradise it was beforehand.



It wasn't great, but it was much better than it is today.

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There were deaths in Crimea, but more to the point, Yanukovich even as acting head of state, didn't have authority to invite Russian troops into Ukraine.



There were six deaths resulting from violent protests, and Russia had a military base in Crimea with the right to send up to 25,000 troops into Crimea (see Kharkiv Pact)

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Nor was any public invitation made to Russia. The un-uniformed "little green men", and then the regular Russian army invaded sovereign Ukraine. Important buildings in Kiev were forcibly held and the legitimate Ukrainian army was driven from its forts throughout the Crimea. The Ukrainian navy was fired upon by Russian warships in warning not to leave port.

Is Ukraine a sovereign nation or Russian property?



Is your argument that Russia shouldn't have defended it's naval base in Crimea (which it had a right to keep per the Kharkiv Pact)?

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Both options on the ballot lead to a Russian annexation of Crimea and again, the region is under foreign occupation. The justification is concern for the welfare of ethnic Russians, just like the Anschluss.



Ah, the Hitler comparison that always gets thrown in (propaganda).  :smirk:



At least mine is somewhat relevant, Your Washingtonsblog.com link uses the word nazi like 20 times in reference to the US's role is Russia.



But it's not very relevant because even without the Anschluss, Hitler could still have taken Austria through war if he wanted.  It did little to change the situation.

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Lets say Hillary is elected and immediately signs the TPP. Protests at the white house escalate to snipers on the white house roof shooting at random. Youd better believe Id violently resist that democratically elected government, not only will Clinton be removed from office, she will have her day in court.



A leaked call showed that snipers who shot at protesters and police in Kiev were hired by Maidan leaders, so it appears you're arguing against them.

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Russian aggression = Ukraine, Transnistra, Georgia, Chechnya. Former soviet states behave as good puppets or Russia spanks them while the world watches. Should the modern world be a community of sovereign states or the property of the biggest bullies?



I know a lot about those countries as well, and the Western media only tells one side.


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Re: Hillary wants us to hate on Russia [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23575754 - 08/25/16 11:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

We've done it before and I would hope the UN, China, Russia, the EU, Cuba, someone would resist us. If I understand you correctly, you're trying to show how further Russian expansion is ridiculous/impossible, but I wouldn't put it past president Trump if the cartels bombed Trump tower or his golf course, or Hillary if some kid hacks the rest of her emails and flees south


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Re: Hillary wants us to hate on Russia [Re: Crumist]
    #23576071 - 08/25/16 01:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Was your last reply to me or ballsalsa (I'm not sure what you meant by "we've done "IT" before")?

I think our discussion is getting quite large and time consuming, and to keep others interested I think we should focus on one point at a time.  I'll post an example of where I think you're not seeing the big picture, and I invite you to do the same for my posts.

You posted a New York Times article about how Putin transferred money from a large international bank to a smaller Russian bank owned by acquaintances of Putin as evidence of "corruption".  I countered by stating the move was to protect Russian money from Western sanctions and the freezing of funds (which did happen).  Which is the more compelling argument?  Did I leave out an important point from your side of the story?  :shrug:


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Re: Hillary wants us to hate on Russia [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23576315 - 08/25/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

My last post was in reply to Ballsalsa, I don't know how to ended up redirecting to Falcon91Wolvrn03

What article are you reading? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/28/world/europe/it-pays-to-be-putins-friend-.html?_r=1 ; Are you hitting a paywall or something? There is no large international bank mentioned explicitly in the article, and the smaller bank is called Bank Rossiya.

The transfer I believe you are referring to is only mentioned in the first few sentences. And the intent of this transfer is not to protect the assets from sanctions. It is Bank Rossiya being sanctioned and Putin's government essentially gifted it billions in State property to mitigate the damage.

The rest of the article involves numerous examples of the ways the Russian gov't has made decisions in favor of the bank to the tune of many billions $USD ie. corruption.

If you'd like to argue some sort of moral superiority Russia has to the USA, whatever. I'm for opposing aggression in all its forms no matter who the aggressor is.


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Re: Hillary wants us to hate on Russia [Re: Crumist]
    #23577423 - 08/25/16 07:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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There is no large international bank mentioned explicitly in the article, and the smaller bank is called Bank Rossiya.



That's my point.  The New York Times left out a lot of important details.  I lost a lot of respect for them after their overly negative (and misleading) coverage of Sanders and Trump to help boost Hillary.

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The transfer I believe you are referring to is only mentioned in the first few sentences. And the intent of this transfer is not to protect the assets from sanctions. It is Bank Rossiya being sanctioned and Putin's government essentially gifted it billions in State property to mitigate the damage.



It is both to protect Russian assets from being frozen abroad, AND to help mitigate the damage to Bank Rossiya (as you correctly pointed out).

I don't really see damage mitigation as "corruption".  The US bailed out many large banks during the Great Recession, and many of them were responsible for the recession in the first place.  THAT is more corrupt to me (though I understand it had to be done because they were 'too big to fail').  We also bailed out GM and other companies, whom I'm sure Obama has connections with.  :shrug:


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Re: Hillary wants us to hate on Russia [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23581558 - 08/26/16 08:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hillary wants us to hate on Russia but she enabled them to corner the uranium market for 2.35million dollars to the Clinton foundation?  Something must have pissed her off.


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Re: Hillary wants us to hate on Russia [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23581577 - 08/26/16 08:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't really see damage mitigation as "corruption".  The US bailed out many large banks during the Great Recession, and many of them were responsible for the recession in the first place.  THAT is more corrupt to me (though I understand it had to be done because they were 'too big to fail').  We also bailed out GM and other companies, whom I'm sure Obama has connections with.  :shrug:




You have a source for that? I've already dug up mine.


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Re: Hillary wants us to hate on Russia [Re: Crumist]
    #23582360 - 08/27/16 02:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't really see damage mitigation as "corruption".  The US bailed out many large banks during the Great Recession, and many of them were responsible for the recession in the first place.  THAT is more corrupt to me (though I understand it had to be done because they were 'too big to fail').  We also bailed out GM and other companies, whom I'm sure Obama has connections with.  :shrug:




You have a source for that? I've already dug up mine.



A source for what?  That the US bailed out our own big banks when they were in financial trouble?  That the banks were responsible for the recession?  That corporate cronyism is a real thing?


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Re: Hillary wants us to hate on Russia [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23582804 - 08/27/16 08:57 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I dont think its productive to keep putting bandaids on a hemophiliac like our financial system.

Let it bleed out, we can get another one.


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Re: Hillary wants us to hate on Russia [Re: spock]
    #23582858 - 08/27/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The first Gulf War technically was sticking up for Kuwait, when Saddam invaded.


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Re: Hillary wants us to hate on Russia [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23582896 - 08/27/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't really see damage mitigation as "corruption".  The US bailed out many large banks during the Great Recession, and many of them were responsible for the recession in the first place.  THAT is more corrupt to me (though I understand it had to be done because they were 'too big to fail').  We also bailed out GM and other companies, whom I'm sure Obama has connections with.  :shrug:




You have a source for that? I've already dug up mine.



A source for what?  That the US bailed out our own big banks when they were in financial trouble?  That the banks were responsible for the recession?  That corporate cronyism is a real thing?




Sorry, I thought it was apparent. I meant a source for "whom I'm sure Obama has connections with."


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Re: Hillary wants us to hate on Russia [Re: Crumist]
    #23583823 - 08/27/16 02:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't really see damage mitigation as "corruption".  The US bailed out many large banks during the Great Recession, and many of them were responsible for the recession in the first place.  THAT is more corrupt to me (though I understand it had to be done because they were 'too big to fail').  We also bailed out GM and other companies, whom I'm sure Obama has connections with.  :shrug:




You have a source for that? I've already dug up mine.



A source for what?  That the US bailed out our own big banks when they were in financial trouble?  That the banks were responsible for the recession?  That corporate cronyism is a real thing?




Sorry, I thought it was apparent. I meant a source for "whom I'm sure Obama has connections with."



GM's union donated over $4 million to the democratic party in 2008 alone and they got a sweet deal from the GM bailout (though I'm ok with that as I support the unions).


The irony of this whole thread is that after the DNC showed favoritism toward Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders during the presidential primaries, Hillary pointed the finger at Russia to deflect attention.  All the corporate media and her loyal followers looked away from the scandal and started hating on Russia just like Hillary asked, though it still hasn't even been proven that Putin was behind the leak.


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Re: Hillary wants us to hate on Russia [Re: ChinChiller]
    #23583908 - 08/27/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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The first Gulf War technically was sticking up for Kuwait, when Saddam invaded.




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Re: Hillary wants us to hate on Russia [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23584039 - 08/27/16 03:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hillary wants us to stick it to Russia, but she enabled them to corner the uranium market. LOL.

Wiki leaks is now letting out that Hillary, during her state department tenure, that over 40% of her direct face to face meetings with (mainly foreign entitites) were from people who donated a total of $150 Million to the clinton foundation.  talking about corrupt--this sounds like a banana republic!

One case was some pakistani dude who for a paltry 150,000 USD donatin got a face to face, and got fast tracked to something like 160 Mil in US taxpayer funds for projects in Pakistan.

Give me a fucking break--and people are saying Trump is the problem?  Jesus christ, people must have swallowed the stupid pill.


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Re: Hillary wants us to hate on Russia [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23584481 - 08/27/16 05:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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GM's union donated over $4 million to the democratic party in 2008 alone and they got a sweet deal from the GM bailout (though I'm ok with that as I support the unions).


The irony of this whole thread is that after the DNC showed favoritism toward Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders during the presidential primaries, Hillary pointed the finger at Russia to deflect attention.  All the corporate media and her loyal followers looked away from the scandal and started hating on Russia just like Hillary asked, though it still hasn't even been proven that Putin was behind the leak.




The donation to Obama was a whopping $27,340 , remember I gave evidence of all these personal connections (bailouts, awarded contracts & positions, favorable gov't decisions) between Putin and individuals heading large Russo-corps and you claimed the same of the financial bailout? (different bailout altogether) Also, the article is from 2009, written by Newt Gingrich. In retrospect the auto-bailout "worked" and it is relatively popular across the board (I for one would have like to see the banks and auto industry look elsewhere for their bailout, the US people needn't nor can afford to assume excess risk that profits multi-billionaire CEOs)

And, I, for one don't see the big issue with the DNC's favoritism. Hillary won by a large margin and did better in primary states. Plus, was it not obvious the RNC favored anyone but Trump? And another key point guess who it was who suggested the Russians hack Hillary's email? Who was it who kept self-inflicting wounds to draw attention off of Hillary's interview with the FBI? Who was it that went on TV and says we shouldn't back our NATO allies or we should recognize Crimea as legitimately Russian? Who hired Manafort for the prominent role of campaign manager, best known for his work for Yanukovych?

TRUMP.


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Re: Hillary wants us to hate on Russia [Re: Crumist] * 1
    #23588770 - 08/28/16 11:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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GM's union donated over $4 million to the democratic party in 2008 alone and they got a sweet deal from the GM bailout (though I'm ok with that as I support the unions).



The donation to Obama was a whopping $27,340



Who do you think got the other $4 million that went to the Democratic party after Obama eliminated Hillary?

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I, for one don't see the big issue with the DNC's favoritism.



The DNC is required to be neutral.  This scandal cost Debbie Wasserman Schulz and three other people their jobs in the DNC, and will likely cost her reelection.

You think corruption is no "big issue" if it favors Hillary?  :shrug:

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Hillary won by a large margin



How much do you think the DNC favoritism cost Bernie?  Maybe 4 or 5 points?  That's the election right there.

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...another key point guess who it was who suggested the Russians hack Hillary's email?

TRUMP.



Trump wants to find more corruption in the Hillary campaign, and you're upset.  Is it because you think there's a lot more of it and she's got something to hide???

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Who was it that went on TV and says we shouldn't back our NATO allies or we should recognize Crimea as legitimately Russian? Who hired Manafort for the prominent role of campaign manager, best known for his work for Yanukovych?

TRUMP.



THAT'S one of the two reasons I'd vote for Trump (the other being his anti-TPP stance).  I'm not a war hawk.


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Re: Hillary wants us to hate on Russia [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23591257 - 08/29/16 07:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I do not think anyone is war mongering.  It's bad for 2 nuclear nations to really get down and dirty.  Someones gonna pop the big 'ole A-bomb if it crosses a line.  If anyone wants some love it's everybody.  Surely some soldiers on the European front want you to not be against them.


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    #23591379 - 08/29/16 07:41 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Surely some soldiers on the European front want you to not be against them.



I'm not against them at all (I served in the military for 8 years).  I'm against the politicians that put them on Russia's border.


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Re: Hillary wants us to hate on Russia [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23594050 - 08/30/16 03:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Surely some soldiers on the European front want you to not be against them.



I'm not against them at all (I served in the military for 8 years).  I'm against the politicians that put them on Russia's border.




There's a hole bunch of those.  I don't know what would happen if they were not there.  Less buffer zone I imagine.  Borders moving more west.  But who the F knows?


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Re: Hillary wants us to hate on Russia [Re: Morel Guy]
    #23594061 - 08/30/16 03:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Let's take a look at current monetary systems.

Does one really believe the Cold War era east vs west balogne?


The global trading and  large economies have formed into one entity.


Any east vs west is a clear facade for the masses and if you don't believe me then show me how they are not connected


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UNDENIABLE PROOF A MODERATOR (Enlil) USES FRAUDULENT POSTS TO SUPOORT HIS OPINIONS.  https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23596771#23596771 ; anyone can verify my original post in its unedited format. This proves the length the disinfo whores will go to defend pseudo theories. What quack jobs. Time to get out of moms basement.

One must ask why they would be complicit in crimes against humanity? Is debt based money really worth whoring out your credibility for?


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