trout said:

Never had the others but zaps were very chill for me, not to body heavy. I will just say that I understand why the aztec temples are decorated like they are.

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I love your quote

"I understand why Aztec temples are decorated like they are"

PsychedelicGator said:

For those who've ate em, how does the zap experience compare to semps and pans?

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ekabpils said:

PsychedelicGator said:

For those who've ate em, how does the zap experience compare to semps and pans?

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ekabpils said:

Zapos is very gentle, takes fast but you will not mention it when it has happened and you are deep. Very good energies and communications. No heavy body load - light body sensations and purity after the experience. I would say it has more feminine like mother earth energies. More about your body and emotions energies. Gives very balanced experience. Very beautiful environment after you have finished deep internal work and open the eyes to look around. The mushroom Queen )) Has great universal healing potential.

Subtropicalis are masculine energy. Also takes very easy and unnoticed. Not like pans rocket launch )) More about mental/psycho experience. Destroying/transforming your belief systems, going deep into your shadows. Very direct and no compromise. You are here - let's go and don't cry )) Can be difficult to return. Main focus mental healing and transformation.

In both cases the dose matters. From some dosing the Zapos also becomes strict and no compromise queen - experience can be very difficult. My current normal dose is 3 for both. But know people who does 5-7-12 dry - why so much and what happens there is a different story.

Both give long 5-7 days after flow. For Zapos beautiful dreams, calmness, mental emptiness, body vibrations. Subtropicalis can give another experience like very intense dreams at night in 2-3 days, can lead to the lack of power - but it is mostly for those who meets with him for the first time. Over times after flow will be close to Zapos. We scare/resist about losing/transform our belief systems the most and spend a lot of energy to protect it.

But this is my personal observations from my own and my friends experiences.

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Very cool comparison ekabpils! You actually made me very curious about Zaps now

Telomere said:

I like your descriptions ekab. I have only had Zaps once and only about a gram but I agree from my limited experience that they are an easier ride than Subtrops.

I had about 3 grams of Subtrops the first time I did them and it was absolutely insane. I can’t imagine taking more.My feeling is that Subtrops want to make me understand what it’s like to die so I will appreciate this life.

Zaps were more of a classic mushroom experience for me but in the most beautiful way. I felt like inner and outer stimulus blended into a swirling mass of beauty and charged me up. I can’t wait to take more.

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3 grams of Subtrop is a LOT

SupaThaRipper said:

Texolo expressing different traits 😀

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Melgo said:

ekabpils said:

Zapos is very gentle, takes fast but you will not mention it when it has happened and you are deep. Very good energies and communications. No heavy body load - light body sensations and purity after the experience. I would say it has more feminine like mother earth energies. More about your body and emotions energies. Gives very balanced experience. Very beautiful environment after you have finished deep internal work and open the eyes to look around. The mushroom Queen )) Has great universal healing potential.

Subtropicalis are masculine energy. Also takes very easy and unnoticed. Not like pans rocket launch )) More about mental/psycho experience. Destroying/transforming your belief systems, going deep into your shadows. Very direct and no compromise. You are here - let's go and don't cry )) Can be difficult to return. Main focus mental healing and transformation.

In both cases the dose matters. From some dosing the Zapos also becomes strict and no compromise queen - experience can be very difficult. My current normal dose is 3 for both. But know people who does 5-7-12 dry - why so much and what happens there is a different story.

Both give long 5-7 days after flow. For Zapos beautiful dreams, calmness, mental emptiness, body vibrations. Subtropicalis can give another experience like very intense dreams at night in 2-3 days, can lead to the lack of power - but it is mostly for those who meets with him for the first time. Over times after flow will be close to Zapos. We scare/resist about losing/transform our belief systems the most and spend a lot of energy to protect it.

But this is my personal observations from my own and my friends experiences.

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Very cool comparison ekabpils! You actually made me very curious about Zaps now

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Agreed! Thanks for the explanation. Guess I need to hunt down a print and get to work

Melgo said:

Telomere said:

I like your descriptions ekab. I have only had Zaps once and only about a gram but I agree from my limited experience that they are an easier ride than Subtrops.

I had about 3 grams of Subtrops the first time I did them and it was absolutely insane. I can’t imagine taking more.My feeling is that Subtrops want to make me understand what it’s like to die so I will appreciate this life.

Zaps were more of a classic mushroom experience for me but in the most beautiful way. I felt like inner and outer stimulus blended into a swirling mass of beauty and charged me up. I can’t wait to take more.

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3 grams of Subtrop is a LOT

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Shit yeah it is.


Zapotecorum Tapalpa Clone 1 doing it's thing.


Hoping to get Clone 2 on grain very soon too. That was the third flush chonker lol.

elpico said:

Wild Xalapa, flush # ???.  This tray seems to be just hitting its stride, 5 months after casing:

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SomeGuysFungi said:

Figured I'd finally join shroomery and join in and introduce myself, I'm Rog , from Ireland. Been in Latin america for about 6 years doing projects with bioillimenicent fungi...the zapotecorum labeled "teoxelo, texolo" came from me, as most of the neoxalapensis, fagicola, heimii, banderillensis, yungensis....all that jazz. Seasons coming up in about a week I'm Veracruz mexico. Am I good to post some juicy situ pics of zapotecorum here?  Here is a few different phenos of section zapotecorum.

Nice job on zapotecorum too lads, good to see so many being pumped out lately! Beautiful!

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SomeGuysFungi said:

Figured I'd finally join shroomery and join in and introduce myself, I'm Rog , from Ireland. Been in Latin america for about 6 years doing projects with bioillimenicent fungi...the zapotecorum labeled "teoxelo, texolo" came from me, as most of the neoxalapensis, fagicola, heimii, banderillensis, yungensis....all that jazz. Seasons coming up in about a week I'm Veracruz mexico. Am I good to post some juicy situ pics of zapotecorum here?  Here is a few different phenos of section zapotecorum.

Nice job on zapotecorum too lads, good to see so many being pumped out lately! Beautiful!

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