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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: WyoMX]
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All 4 are toast. Way too wet to be healthy

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: CocaineBuffet]
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CocaineBuffet said:
All 4 are toast. Way too wet to be healthy



Time for education again.  I see the mold.  My first thought, though, when looking at those pictures, was "bacterial".  Why?  Because I recently had a spate of bacterial bags and my PTSD therefore recognises Bacillus where it is and where it isn't.  The Cult pointed me to Spitball's tek so I don't make my grain too wet again.  I've got some jars on the way, so let's see how that worked.  But: are these bags just wet, or also bacterial?  How do you tell the difference?  I've gone through the "how to identify contam" threads again, and I don't see how to differentiate.  Look at the back of "2", for example.  I see mushy, gooey, wet grain sticking to the side of the bag. Bacterial.

hillbillybred, maybe we both learn together?

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SWBZA]
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SWBZA said:
CocaineBuffet said:
All 4 are toast. Way too wet to be healthy



Time for education again.  I see the mold.  My first thought, though, when looking at those pictures, was "bacterial".  Why?  Because I recently had a spate of bacterial bags and my PTSD therefore recognises Bacillus where it is and where it isn't.  The Cult pointed me to Spitball's tek so I don't make my grain too wet again.  I've got some jars on the way, so let's see how that worked.  But: are these bags just wet, or also bacterial?  How do you tell the difference?  I've gone through the "how to identify contam" threads again, and I don't see how to differentiate.  Look at the back of "2", for example.  I see mushy, gooey, wet grain sticking to the side of the bag. Bacterial.

hillbillybred, maybe we both learn together?



How do you gauge your grain before you load the bags?

When put on some toilet paper they should tumble off with only 1 or 2 sticking when you lift the edge up.


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"The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: elasticaltiger]
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elasticaltiger said:
How do you gauge your grain before you load the bags?

When put on some toilet paper they should tumble off with only 1 or 2 sticking when you lift the edge up.



Yup, that's what I do.  I'm hoping my next batch is perfect.  The myc is growing well. 

My question is identifying the difference between a bacterial bag and a "wet" bag.  Actually, it doesn't matter practically, either gets chucked.  So I guess, not useful to differentiate.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SWBZA]
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SWBZA said:
elasticaltiger said:
How do you gauge your grain before you load the bags?

When put on some toilet paper they should tumble off with only 1 or 2 sticking when you lift the edge up.



Yup, that's what I do.  I'm hoping my next batch is perfect.  The myc is growing well. 

My question is identifying the difference between a bacterial bag and a "wet" bag.  Actually, it doesn't matter practically, either gets chucked.  So I guess, not useful to differentiate.



It can be difficult especially when there isn't any obvious discolortion but basically when the bag is bacterial the grains begin to "look sour" which i know sounds weird as "sour" describes taste and smell but you can tell something is interacting with the grain. In a bag that's just wet the uncolonized grains will look preserved but the mycelium just won't reach them because of pooling water blocking them.

You look at enough bags and jars and you'll just develope an eye for it.


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First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber

The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it :shrug:

Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger!
No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit.

"The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT

Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates)

Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen

Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson

EZEKIEL 23:20

Edited by elasticaltiger (02/26/24 03:44 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: elasticaltiger]
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Thanks, Tiger. :thumbup:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SWBZA]
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Hi everyone, new to this type of stuff. I lost a few grain jars to contamination now I only have one left remaining, which is growing well.

The Mason jar size is 32 OZ. I was originally gonna use a monotub but I don’t have enough grain spawn for that. So now I’m going with a shoebox. I will be going with a 6qt Shoebox. My question is this fine? Will the 6qt shoebox be a good size for my mason jar + substrate? Thank you for your time

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: livingonparadise]
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livingonparadise said:
Hi everyone, new to this type of stuff. I lost a few grain jars to contamination now I only have one left remaining, which is growing well.

The Mason jar size is 32 OZ. I was originally gonna use a monotub but I don’t have enough grain spawn for that. So now I’m going with a shoebox. I will be going with a 6qt Shoebox. My question is this fine? Will the 6qt shoebox be a good size for my mason jar + substrate? Thank you for your time



Yeah good size :thumbup:

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: elasticaltiger]
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elasticaltiger said:
7mm_Dead said:
Will alcohol on the caps of syringes harm the LC in the syringe?



Like on the outside of the cap?

Or do you mean filling up the inside of the cap with alcohol and storing the needle that way?

First is no, second is maybe and wholey unnecessary.



I am just misting the cap and the syringe tip. I then let them dry. I use a new cap and needle after each use. My concern was that the alcohol would leach into the syringe somehow.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: 7mm_Dead] * 1
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Why are you misting the cap and syringe tip anyway?
The flame is there for a reason.

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD]
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I am going to run some modified lids for the first time thru the PC—they are plastic with a small hole on top and an SFD attached over the whole.

Should I tighten the lids all the way? I think so, given that there’s a whole on top for exchange. Thanks you!


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: scwoopz] * 1
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scwoopz said:
I am going to run some modified lids for the first time thru the PC—they are plastic with a small hole on top and an SFD attached over the whole.

Should I tighten the lids all the way? I think so, given that there’s a whole on top for exchange. Thanks you!



Yes tighten the lids

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: DERRAYLD]
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DERRAYLD said:
Why are you misting the cap and syringe tip anyway?
The flame is there for a reason.



I only mist the cap and syringe tip after using it. Then I put it back into storage. Trying to keep things as sterile as possible. I spray alcohol on everything. Even on myself. I spray alcohol on everything inside my SAB. I spray the outside, and spray myself. I also spray a light mist around my room. I clean until I think it's enough. Then I clean more. So far I've had no contamination's. The only problem I've had was what I believe was a bad LC syringe. I go batshit crazy on trying to create a sterile environment. I do wonder if raising the humidity in the room might help with dust and other potential contaminants. Does anybody know if raising the humidity helps with airborne contaminants?


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Some PDF files that some may find useful.
Reality is the muderer of dreams.
Said by me.
To know, is to know that you know nothing. That is the meaning of true knowledge.
Socrates


Edited by 7mm_Dead (02/26/24 09:37 AM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: 7mm_Dead]
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I think raising the humidity will increase airborne contaminants.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Lemgrub]
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Lemgrub said:
I think raising the humidity will increase airborne contaminants.



My theory was that the moisture in the air (by spraying water/alcohol) would cause the dust, and other contaminants to fall out of the air. Therefore reducing the potential of small air currents introducing contaminants. No matter how careful a person is the slightest body movement will produce an air current. That's just my thoughts on that. I may be completely wrong though. It is known happen quite frequently.


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Some PDF files that some may find useful.
Reality is the muderer of dreams.
Said by me.
To know, is to know that you know nothing. That is the meaning of true knowledge.
Socrates


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: 7mm_Dead]
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7mm_Dead said:
DERRAYLD said:
Why are you misting the cap and syringe tip anyway?
The flame is there for a reason.



I only mist the cap and syringe tip after using it. Then I put it back into storage. Trying to keep things as sterile as possible. I spray alcohol on everything. Even on myself. I spray alcohol on everything inside my SAB. I spray the outside, and spray myself. I also spray a light mist around my room. I clean until I think it's enough. Then I clean more. So far I've had no contamination's. The only problem I've had was what I believe was a bad LC syringe. I go batshit crazy on trying to create a sterile environment. I do wonder if raising the humidity in the room might help with dust and other potential contaminants. Does anybody know if raising the humidity helps with airborne contaminants?



No need to exaggerate. We use a SAB for a reason. In my first grow I used alcohol, in my next two attempts, I used none. I only spray the inside of the SAB with diluted soapy water and that's it. I don't even wear gloves anymore, but I do wear a mask, to avoid air currents. You cannot sterilise anything with alcohol, just sanitize, and you definitely cannot sanitize your whole room, nor is it necessary. As was said already, that's what the flame is for.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Skropi]
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Another quick q about grain prep. My PC holds 6qt jars and I am planning to prep 12. Can I hydrate my oats, put them in jars, and then wait 1-2 days to PC? Or will that cause some issues?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: scwoopz]
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2 days is too long for hydrated grain to sit at room temperature before sterilization in my experience. If you can keep them in a fridge or otherwise cool you could go a couple of days pre-pc.

Anything that grows during the time before the pc cycle will be killed in the cycle, but the grains will then be full of the waste that was produced in that time that can be detrimental to healthy myc growth.


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: SWBZA]
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If you can put the other 6 jars in the fridge for the day or so it won't be a problem but I personally wouldn't leave them at room temperature. Bad things can take it over really quickly like that.


Was reading the whole page and rev beat me but ya :whathesaid:

Edited by WyoMX (02/26/24 01:29 PM)

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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: WyoMX]
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Question number 710: I was reading "lot kids PE tips" and, just the tip, he said to case w coir and peat...he didn't mention it but aren't you supposed to sterilize shit with peat in it? Or pasteurization with 190 degree water is fine in the cooler?


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