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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: stockw] 1
#28670854 - 02/22/24 05:23 AM (4 months, 19 hours ago) |
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Shouldn't be an issue.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] 1
#28670896 - 02/22/24 06:07 AM (4 months, 19 hours ago) |
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myc digs caramelization.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: fiddle_head] 1
#28670984 - 02/22/24 07:57 AM (4 months, 17 hours ago) |
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fiddle_head said: myc digs caramelization.
Then so do I! Cheers guys.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Rohrschach]
#28671380 - 02/22/24 01:07 PM (4 months, 12 hours ago) |
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Rohrschach said: Ok, so just to be sure: When should I harvest it and how should it feel when I harvest it?
Well, no one else answered this. I’m gonna say based off of its growth. If it stops growing for a day or two, gather it. TC’s let me know if there is a better way.
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elasticaltiger
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Rohrschach] 1
#28671386 - 02/22/24 01:12 PM (4 months, 12 hours ago) |
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Rohrschach said: Ok, so just to be sure: When should I harvest it and how should it feel when I harvest it?
The other advice to see when they stop growing is good. "Normal" looking fruits Are usually a little bit firm when you harvest but when they are over grown they'll get soft.
With unusual genetics the typical harvest guidelines don't always apply. Its really up to you but I would harvest those now.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: elasticaltiger]
#28671479 - 02/22/24 02:14 PM (4 months, 11 hours ago) |
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How long are brf cakes able to fruit? My first cakes, which started pinning almost two months ago, are still fruiting, with the exception of one that got the trich treatment, and another two that got some brown colouration, bacteria or some undesirable fungus most probably. Temps are around 20-24°C. I mean, I don't complain, and they are not fruiting as much as they did, but still.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Skropi] 1
#28671598 - 02/22/24 03:42 PM (4 months, 9 hours ago) |
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How do people get their agar wedges into the grain when transferring to jars? I try to shake but it just likes to get stuck to the lid lol. I would shove it in with the scalpel but I am worried about contam.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: YellowBelly] 1
#28671635 - 02/22/24 03:59 PM (4 months, 9 hours ago) |
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YellowBelly said: How do people get their agar wedges into the grain when transferring to jars? I try to shake but it just likes to get stuck to the lid lol. I would shove it in with the scalpel but I am worried about contam.
Check this out works for me:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28037918
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Stroms]
#28671755 - 02/22/24 05:58 PM (4 months, 7 hours ago) |
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Stroms said:
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YellowBelly said: How do people get their agar wedges into the grain when transferring to jars? I try to shake but it just likes to get stuck to the lid lol. I would shove it in with the scalpel but I am worried about contam.
Check this out works for me:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28037918
Ahhh that's a really good idea! Thank you!
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: YellowBelly]
#28671790 - 02/22/24 06:29 PM (4 months, 6 hours ago) |
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YellowBelly said:
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Stroms said:
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YellowBelly said: How do people get their agar wedges into the grain when transferring to jars? I try to shake but it just likes to get stuck to the lid lol. I would shove it in with the scalpel but I am worried about contam.
Check this out works for me:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28037918
Ahhh that's a really good idea! Thank you!
Yeah it's all about the slow roll.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: fiddle_head]
#28671957 - 02/22/24 08:49 PM (4 months, 4 hours ago) |
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fiddle_head said: hey guys, have you seen this before? i ran across someone with similar looking growth, some var with a Z, and it was determined mold. i just honestly dont know what im looking at here.


it´s allegedly giant penis envy. that or some other type of fungus other than cube maybe?
Just wait for that sucker to plin and T the plins. To me it looks like there are incompatible or destructive individuals in that colony. There is discord within the group.
If you make LC from that culture and let it age/mature for a while, then drip some on a new plate, the culture will likely "break" and reveal coherent sectors. Then it is an easy transfer of the stuff you want. Breaking a tricky culture is handy.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Skropi] 1
#28672015 - 02/22/24 09:28 PM (4 months, 3 hours ago) |
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Skropi said: How long are brf cakes able to fruit? My first cakes, which started pinning almost two months ago, are still fruiting, with the exception of one that got the trich treatment, and another two that got some brown colouration, bacteria or some undesirable fungus most probably. Temps are around 20-24°C. I mean, I don't complain, and they are not fruiting as much as they did, but still.
if they atarted pinning almost two months ago then that is quite some time i would say. its usually 5-10 days before the second flush and 10-20 for flush 3. but 2 months just sounds like a long time to me. if you are still getting fruit then good. what number flush are these cakes on?
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
#28672035 - 02/22/24 09:39 PM (4 months, 3 hours ago) |
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Nichrome said:
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fiddle_head said: hey guys, have you seen this before? i ran across someone with similar looking growth, some var with a Z, and it was determined mold. i just honestly dont know what im looking at here.


it´s allegedly giant penis envy. that or some other type of fungus other than cube maybe?
Just wait for that sucker to plin and T the plins. To me it looks like there are incompatible or destructive individuals in that colony. There is discord within the group.
If you make LC from that culture and let it age/mature for a while, then drip some on a new plate, the culture will likely "break" and reveal coherent sectors. Then it is an easy transfer of the stuff you want. Breaking a tricky culture is handy.
thanks nichrome i hope you are well man
heres what i was thinking about this whole thing- i understand there are distinct mating characteristics of different monokaryons or monakaryotic hyphae within individual specie, iirc some psilocybe sp. have hundreds, many of which are incompatible. i wonder what specifically makes particular dikaryotic strains ¨incompatible.¨ within the context of an agar culture like that.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: fiddle_head]
#28672076 - 02/22/24 10:15 PM (4 months, 3 hours ago) |
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fiddle_head said:
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Nichrome said:
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fiddle_head said: hey guys, have you seen this before? i ran across someone with similar looking growth, some var with a Z, and it was determined mold. i just honestly dont know what im looking at here.


it´s allegedly giant penis envy. that or some other type of fungus other than cube maybe?
Just wait for that sucker to plin and T the plins. To me it looks like there are incompatible or destructive individuals in that colony. There is discord within the group.
If you make LC from that culture and let it age/mature for a while, then drip some on a new plate, the culture will likely "break" and reveal coherent sectors. Then it is an easy transfer of the stuff you want. Breaking a tricky culture is handy.
thanks nichrome i hope you are well man
heres what i was thinking about this whole thing- i understand there are distinct mating characteristics of different monokaryons or monakaryotic hyphae within individual specie, iirc some psilocybe sp. have hundreds, many of which are incompatible. i wonder what specifically makes particular dikaryotic strains ¨incompatible.¨ within the context of an agar culture like that.
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Skropi said: How long are brf cakes able to fruit? My first cakes, which started pinning almost two months ago, are still fruiting, with the exception of one that got the trich treatment, and another two that got some brown colouration, bacteria or some undesirable fungus most probably. Temps are around 20-24°C. I mean, I don't complain, and they are not fruiting as much as they did, but still.
if they atarted pinning almost two months ago then that is quite some time i would say. its usually 5-10 days before the second flush and 10-20 for flush 3. but 2 months just sounds like a long time to me. if you are still getting fruit then good. what number flush are these cakes on?
I have no idea about number of flushes mate, I just dunk a cake that just fruited, if I judge that it lost enough weight, and put it again in the water tub. I can't say exactly, but I got about 80gr dry from 12 cakes till now, but I don't think they will produce much more. When they were put in their FC the temps were a bit lower, so maybe they took a bit more time in the beginning? Not super important ofc, I was just curious.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome] 1
#28672177 - 02/23/24 12:32 AM (4 months, 44 minutes ago) |
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no problem at all man; i havent done cakes in some time ill admit. i did them in 2008-2009 and then again in 2021-2022 with good initial success. I know they take longer to colonize but i dont remember the fruiting data.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
#28672387 - 02/23/24 07:52 AM (3 months, 30 days ago) |
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Will alcohol on the caps of syringes harm the LC in the syringe?
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: 7mm_Dead] 1
#28672467 - 02/23/24 08:57 AM (3 months, 30 days ago) |
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7mm_Dead said: Will alcohol on the caps of syringes harm the LC in the syringe?
Like on the outside of the cap?
Or do you mean filling up the inside of the cap with alcohol and storing the needle that way?
First is no, second is maybe and wholey unnecessary.
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Nichrome]
#28672501 - 02/23/24 09:24 AM (3 months, 30 days ago) |
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What is the gnarled mutation on the upper stipe of some strains of cubensis? Nutcracker, JMF, sometimes thrasher and melmac. It seems to occur mostly in albinos but not always. The upper stipe gets thicker than the bottom and develops a gnarled wood texture. Anyone know anything about that?
My current list of traits is: Crinkly caps Sporeless Bluing caps/gills Leucism Albinism Fasciation (I believe enigma is a strong fasciation) Gnarly wood texture Fuzzy umbo Height Proportion (thick or thin) Density (solid stipes vs stipes with thin walls) Potency
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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: herbstation]
#28672563 - 02/23/24 10:06 AM (3 months, 30 days ago) |
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One year old spores on BRF agar inoculated 10 days ago.
That's a toss, right?


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Re: Ask Quick Questions, Get Quick Answers [Re: Yahra]
#28672577 - 02/23/24 10:22 AM (3 months, 30 days ago) |
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I know patience is a virtue, but I need a little reassurance. I tubbed up my first pe shoeboxes on Feb 1st. Good three weeks ago. About how long does PE take to pin??
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