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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Arctic_Fox]
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Arctic_Fox said:
MicroMycelium said:
Center spot yes. I’d transfer from the edge away from the adjacent spot after it grow some more



Thanks. Does something concern you about the other non center spot?

I inoculated this by placing a drop (just one drop) of spore solution on the surface of the agar. But since I didn't dig into the agar at all to make a pit for it to sit in, the spore solution rolled around the dish a bit (along with some condensation on the agar surface).



The spot away from the center looks like it grew much more dense/fluffy in the same time period and it is away from the inoculation point which points toward being sus. But watch it grow out and it could be mycelium from where the solution traveled. Hard to tell exactly at this point IMO

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: MicroMycelium]
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Thanks to you both :smile:


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Tormato]
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Here's a photo of another plate. The interesting thing about it to me is the "tails" coming off of the circular growth. It's ridiculously hard to photograph. It's translucent, has very diffuse reflection, and can only be seen with front lighting. Those "tails" appeared days before there was any sign of the real growth.

Edited by Arctic_Fox (07/22/23 01:07 PM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Arctic_Fox] * 1
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Arctic_Fox said:
Here's a photo of another plate. The interesting thing about it to me is the "tails" coming off of the circular growth. It's ridiculously hard to photograph. It's translucent, has very diffuse reflection, and can only be seen with front lighting. Those "tails" appeared days before there was any sign of the real growth.




Search “scalloping” the majority of my initial plates getting into the hobby have been doing that.
It is uneven progression of growth due to the media it’s growing on have different concentrations of nutrition or minute contamination dispersed through out it. It can be prevented with more homogeneously mixed and/or more sterile agar and/or more sterile inoculations/transfers.
Ie. a less than perfectly sterile scalpel, spore solution, transferred section, or less than evenly mixed/sterilized media can all contribute.

With all the possible variables try focusing on perfecting just one, observe the difference, and if no difference is observed maintain the improved technique and move onto perfecting the next variable. Over time they will improve.

(Mine are still not the best by any means but I have made measurable improvements swapping my transfer tools from an X-Acto with lighter to scalpel with alcohol lamp)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: MicroMycelium]
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Got some growth also bacteria but it's from a syringe I expected it



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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: MicroMycelium]
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MicroMycelium said:
Arctic_Fox said:
Here's a photo of another plate. The interesting thing about it to me is the "tails" coming off of the circular growth. It's ridiculously hard to photograph. It's translucent, has very diffuse reflection, and can only be seen with front lighting. Those "tails" appeared days before there was any sign of the real growth.




Search “scalloping”… It is uneven progression of growth due to the media it’s growing on have different concentrations of nutrition or minute contamination dispersed through out it. It can be prevented with more homogeneously mixed and/or more sterile agar and/or more sterile inoculations/transfers.



Source?

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: aPurpleCray0n] * 1
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“more sterile agar” :lol:

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: bugman]
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Hi I’m curious how these plates look to others as I’m fairly new to all this even though I started in 2014/2015 lol. Only did a few grows from spore back then and kinda forgot about everything up until now.

This one is golden mammoth from an lc on to agar and transferred once.


This one is galindoi from an old spore syringe I found in my fridge dated back to 2015. It was inoculated with a loop. Does it look like mycelium? I wasn’t sure if the spores would still be viable after this long so just want to make sure.


Edit: these were all plated and inoculated  on 7/15

Edited by Tathamet (07/22/23 05:34 PM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Mycolorado]
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Mycolorado said:
“more sterile agar” :lol:



Less-contaminated* :noyoudidawet:

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: MicroMycelium]
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Sooo then no source? I would like to be moar learnt on this subject

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Arctic_Fox]
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Arctic_Fox said:
I think this is good mycelium. Thoughts?


Same plate, different lighting.
(And I really need a new camera)



So I'm glad we think what I have here is mycelium. I have one concern though. It's suspiciously shiny. Could bacteria be growing on top of it? (left side backlit, right side frontlit)



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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Arctic_Fox]
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It’s just wet.  Let it grow out and make xfrs.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Mycolorado]
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Mycolorado said:
It’s just wet.  Let it grow out and make xfrs.



:whathesaid:

When it is no longer wet it will look white like you are used to seeing

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Arctic_Fox]
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Day 5. The right hand culture is starting to look interesting.

Edited by Arctic_Fox (07/23/23 08:55 AM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Mycolorado]
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Mycolorado said:
It’s just wet.  Let it grow out and make xfrs.



To grain or to another agar plate? If it looks clean is there any risk to putting it to grain? If there are invisible contaminants embedded in the mycelium and I transferred it to another agar plate, would the contamination not continue to grow with the mycelium in the new plate?

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Arctic_Fox] * 2
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Been hunting for this pheno and choosing overall stipe thickness as a the main characteristic to push through into forward generations.




These suckers are a special something.

Many I have worked with as clients / patients have said they are similar to an ayahuasca experience.

I must also agree.



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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Arctic_Fox] * 1
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Arctic_Fox said:
Mycolorado said:
It’s just wet.  Let it grow out and make xfrs.



To grain or to another agar plate? If it looks clean is there any risk to putting it to grain? If there are invisible contaminants embedded in the mycelium and I transferred it to another agar plate, would the contamination not continue to grow with the mycelium in the new plate?



To agar, at least a couple more times.  Yes, baddies can ride along and one of the main reasons why a couple of xfrs are made, grabbing material from just the outer edge of the culture. This allows the myc to outrun those things, giving us clean cultures.  Those look pretty good so wouldn’t be concerned.  The other objective of agar work is to get nice, uniform, fast growth.

Just looked at your pic again…I don’t like the culture on the right with the rings.

Edited by Mycolorado (07/23/23 07:09 PM)

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Mycolorado]
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Mycolorado said:
To agar, at least a couple more times.  Yes, baddies can ride along and one of the main reasons why a couple of xfrs are made, grabbing material from just the outer edge of the culture. This allows the myc to outrun those things, giving us clean cultures.  Those look pretty good so wouldn’t be concerned.  The other objective of agar work is to get nice, uniform, fast growth.

Just looked at your pic again…I don’t like the culture on the right with the rings.



What do rings mean?


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Arctic_Fox]
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The concentric circles.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Mycolorado]
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Mycolorado said:
The concentric circles.



Oh, I know, sorry. I meant what do they indicate?

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