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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: RoscoeReturns] * 2
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RoscoeReturns said:
sprocket said:
You got the ghonocacacaus!! What ever you do, don't touch your dick, it'll end up looking like a burnt match!!



Youโ€™re assuming it doesnโ€™t already.

Why does it hurt when I pee?



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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: sprocket] * 4
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I hope these turn out better than my infection.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Tormato]
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Country cock!
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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: fiddle_head]
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fiddle_head said:
I've been wanting to post this for a while but haven't had time to sit down and go through it.
got some genetics from a buddy of mine, the cups below are both t2, ape & hp, in order.



I have been seeing weak, tomentose growth on alot of plates lately. Tried switching the agar recipe to see if I was missing anything.
These plates are:

500ml city tap
10g Briess LME
10g Fitlane agar-agar

Someone told me grain water can cause wispy uncertain growth like this, but I find these ape cups especially disconcerting and foul-looking for cube myc, so that was ousted.
Pictured next to it is hillbilly pumpkin, which doesn't look great either, but at least i see some willingness there.
I strongly feel it's not contaminants or bacteria, because I inoculated 10 of each at the same time, same SAB, same tools, within 30min. Every single ape cup looks exactly like the picture. Every single hillbilly cup looks exactly like that picture, no visible contam except for every ape cup looking like mold.
I would normally say "hey that looks like mold" if someone posted this, but I'm really confident it's a combination of genetics and conditions (including agar recipe)
When put to grain I firmly believe it will express totally different, as cube myc do.
Is the minerality or treatment of the water source at play here?
I am thinking about using RO or distilled water, in that order to see what works.
What do you guys think?



Can't really help much but I can only say that I have a lot of plates like that from  different cube prints (not APE though). I just ran a 4% LME agar batch and did like 30 transfers yesterday, will see if it makes a difference. I doubt it but doesn't hurt to try. My uneducated guess is multispore genetics and environmental conditions. Or some kind of very sneaky contamination that is hindering growth but is not strong enough to overtake the myc and show itself clearly.

What genetics do you have, multispore or clones/isolate?

I use DI water so don't get your hopes up with switching to RO/Distilled


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: altford78]
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altford78 said:
fiddle_head said:
I've been wanting to post this for a while but haven't had time to sit down and go through it.
got some genetics from a buddy of mine, the cups below are both t2, ape & hp, in order.



I have been seeing weak, tomentose growth on alot of plates lately. Tried switching the agar recipe to see if I was missing anything.
These plates are:

500ml city tap
10g Briess LME
10g Fitlane agar-agar

Someone told me grain water can cause wispy uncertain growth like this, but I find these ape cups especially disconcerting and foul-looking for cube myc, so that was ousted.
Pictured next to it is hillbilly pumpkin, which doesn't look great either, but at least i see some willingness there.
I strongly feel it's not contaminants or bacteria, because I inoculated 10 of each at the same time, same SAB, same tools, within 30min. Every single ape cup looks exactly like the picture. Every single hillbilly cup looks exactly like that picture, no visible contam except for every ape cup looking like mold.
I would normally say "hey that looks like mold" if someone posted this, but I'm really confident it's a combination of genetics and conditions (including agar recipe)
When put to grain I firmly believe it will express totally different, as cube myc do.
Is the minerality or treatment of the water source at play here?
I am thinking about using RO or distilled water, in that order to see what works.
What do you guys think?



Can't really help much but I can only say that I have a lot of plates like that from  different cube prints (not APE though). I just ran a 4% LME agar batch and did like 30 transfers yesterday, will see if it makes a difference. I doubt it but doesn't hurt to try. My uneducated guess is multispore genetics and environmental conditions. Or some kind of very sneaky contamination that is hindering growth but is not strong enough to overtake the myc and show itself clearly.

What genetics do you have, multispore or clones/isolate?

I use DI water so don't get your hopes up with switching to RO/Distilled



I'm having this issue with some plates too, showing wet looking growth that seems weak or bacterial even though the original culture seems clean as fuck.
I put some to grain the other day to see if they colonize and produce fruits without contam.
To fix the issue I am going to attempt a couple different agar styles.
My first is going to be: 8g Agar, 6g Malt Extract, and 1g Nutritional Yeast.
Second is the same but with activated charcoal, though I do need some advice on it's use as in how much, etc.
My third solution I'll use 150ml Distilled water with 350ml grain water, 8g Agar, and 1g Nutritional Yeast.
Hopefully one of these solutions wins out for me and I'll report back with my findings.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: mushhead]
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mushhead said:
altford78 said:
fiddle_head said:
I've been wanting to post this for a while but haven't had time to sit down and go through it.
got some genetics from a buddy of mine, the cups below are both t2, ape & hp, in order.



I have been seeing weak, tomentose growth on alot of plates lately. Tried switching the agar recipe to see if I was missing anything.
These plates are:

500ml city tap
10g Briess LME
10g Fitlane agar-agar

Someone told me grain water can cause wispy uncertain growth like this, but I find these ape cups especially disconcerting and foul-looking for cube myc, so that was ousted.
Pictured next to it is hillbilly pumpkin, which doesn't look great either, but at least i see some willingness there.
I strongly feel it's not contaminants or bacteria, because I inoculated 10 of each at the same time, same SAB, same tools, within 30min. Every single ape cup looks exactly like the picture. Every single hillbilly cup looks exactly like that picture, no visible contam except for every ape cup looking like mold.
I would normally say "hey that looks like mold" if someone posted this, but I'm really confident it's a combination of genetics and conditions (including agar recipe)
When put to grain I firmly believe it will express totally different, as cube myc do.
Is the minerality or treatment of the water source at play here?
I am thinking about using RO or distilled water, in that order to see what works.
What do you guys think?



Can't really help much but I can only say that I have a lot of plates like that from  different cube prints (not APE though). I just ran a 4% LME agar batch and did like 30 transfers yesterday, will see if it makes a difference. I doubt it but doesn't hurt to try. My uneducated guess is multispore genetics and environmental conditions. Or some kind of very sneaky contamination that is hindering growth but is not strong enough to overtake the myc and show itself clearly.

What genetics do you have, multispore or clones/isolate?

I use DI water so don't get your hopes up with switching to RO/Distilled



I'm having this issue with some plates too, showing wet looking growth that seems weak or bacterial even though the original culture seems clean as fuck.
I put some to grain the other day to see if they colonize and produce fruits without contam.
To fix the issue I am going to attempt a couple different agar styles.
My first is going to be: 8g Agar, 6g Malt Extract, and 1g Nutritional Yeast.
Second is the same but with activated charcoal, though I do need some advice on it's use as in how much, etc.
My third solution I'll use 150ml Distilled water with 350ml grain water, 8g Agar, and 1g Nutritional Yeast.
Hopefully one of these solutions wins out for me and I'll report back with my findings.



I also hypothesize genetics and conditions; itโ€™s a t2 isolation.
If I hadnโ€™t had so many cups look like this I would say it were totally dependent on genetics but as these are clean transfers and I have had so many plates look like this recently, Iโ€™m wondering if my malt is aging and just need to replace it. A buddy of mine suggested PDA, which has been useful to me in the past; think Iโ€™ll give that a go.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: fiddle_head]
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fiddle_head said:
mushhead said:
I'm having this issue with some plates too, showing wet looking growth that seems weak or bacterial even though the original culture seems clean as fuck.
I put some to grain the other day to see if they colonize and produce fruits without contam.
To fix the issue I am going to attempt a couple different agar styles.
My first is going to be: 8g Agar, 6g Malt Extract, and 1g Nutritional Yeast.
Second is the same but with activated charcoal, though I do need some advice on it's use as in how much, etc.
My third solution I'll use 150ml Distilled water with 350ml grain water, 8g Agar, and 1g Nutritional Yeast.
Hopefully one of these solutions wins out for me and I'll report back with my findings.



I also hypothesize genetics and conditions; itโ€™s a t2 isolation.
If I hadnโ€™t had so many cups look like this I would say it were totally dependent on genetics but as these are clean transfers and I have had so many plates look like this recently, Iโ€™m wondering if my malt is aging and just need to replace it. A buddy of mine suggested PDA, which has been useful to me in the past; think Iโ€™ll give that a go.



I purchased BULK Malt Extract, so much infact that the one purchase has lasted me about five years.
It could be because the Malt Extract is aging, though it has shown no change in color, smell, or consistency.
I get this growth from other methods of agar too, PDA, LMEA, and simple grain water+agar gives the same results.
I used to just toss pure grain water into 10g agar and it was perfect, but now for some reason it's not working as well for me.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: mushhead]
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About how long should I be expect to see growth from spore On agar. Used about 4+\- drops per plate.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: TonyCanoli] * 2
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Could be days. Could be weeks. Youโ€™re on the sporesโ€™ time now.

Do you own an inoculation loop? Best practice for syringes is to squirt a drop onto a loop and spread it across the surface of your agar. Just ffr


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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I donโ€™t but you mentioning it is bringing up something I remember seeing about them when I first started researching. About to go look in to them now. Appreciate you bro.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Tormato] * 4
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There simple to make at home.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: TonyCanoli] * 3
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They're pretty easy to make as well. I made one from flower wire. Has worked well so far.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: NFLProof] * 4
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I call it the reverse transfer.

Not really, I just noticed that I missed a tiny bit of myc at 2 o'clock when noccing up a Nat jar. So I wrapped it back up to see what it would do.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: ReverendMyc] * 1
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The quart jars I inoculated the other day with agar wedges are colonizing beautifully. Nice aggressive growth all over the jar. I'm loving agar even more now!  I can see why some users suggest such small amounts of agar for colonizing your jars. I used 3 wedges from my holy grail cup and probably could have gotten away with 1 wedge.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: sprocket]
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I took these from one of the blobs in my failed KSSS AIO bag that just kept pinning over and over.

I had a feeling they were too small to get a clean sample from them but I was hoping Iโ€™d get lucky.

How can I save these? Could I cut the contam out to give them a chance to atleast grow a little so I can transfer?



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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: TonyCanoli]
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since it's bacteria (as far as I can tell anyway, could be other stuff) theoretically yes cutting them out might give you some more time but they are probably under the transfer piece as well so it's not really going to do much. I'd just wait for the myc to outpace them hopefully and get a transfer from the edge.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: altford78] * 1
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Sweet. Thanks for the advice man much appreciated.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: TonyCanoli] * 1
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full disclosure I've never excised bacteria so maybe it's worth it, no idea. You can try, I mean what's the worse that can happen


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: altford78] * 4
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Gotta love agar! This is one day after dropping into the WBS. Was worried it was bacteria since the growth is so fast, but it sure looks like mycelium.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: sprocket] * 1
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1 day? you got it man well done :shaqwiggle:


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