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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Mugnath]
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Brian Jones said:
susurrador said:

The backbone of America is still family and farm, despite the narrative of the day.

MAGA! TRUMP2020

:rocketcrotch::rocketcrotch::rocketcrotch:


Welcome to the 1800's. Where do you get your information from?


Experience mostly. Eating well as a result of your labor on land you own will never go out of style. Having a surplus to share and trade will never go out of style. Homesteading, ranching, farming will never go out of style.

It means you rely on no external inputs for survival.

That's as American as it gets. You don't hear much from us, because we're working the land and raising families. But we're out here living the American dream while other people who don't have their own lives together are preaching that they know what is best for other people.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: susurrador]
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"The great United America" is over. Populism and sensationalism has destroyed unity.
I hope for all americans that you can find peace but the entire world has been watching for years and it's turned into reality TV show.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Yoda.e]
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Some of us are misled. That's all. The truth will bubble to the surface, though.

It has repeatedly throughout history. Too many people are connected and can read and write in the world today for the truth to be buried long.

Good people will continue doing good things and we'll persevere no matter what.

I'm confident in that.

:ohwow:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: susurrador] * 1
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Another anti-Trump piece on CNN based on mind reading:

The past week and its showcase of President Donald Trump's erratic behavior offered a window into how he would deal with defeat. Surely he would offer excuses and question the results. But would he do something more drastic?"

I think the term Fake News is misunderstood to mean reporting events that did not happen. There is some of that too but to me Fake News is presenting structurally biases opinions as news, like in this case.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/06/politics/what-matters-june-5/index.html

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Yoda.e]
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Yoda.e said:
"The great United America" is over. Populism and sensationalism has destroyed unity.
I hope for all americans that you can find peace but the entire world has been watching for years and it's turned into reality TV show.


I agree. The process has been facilitated by the click hungry media constantly whipping up controversies just for the sake of it. They are the enemies of the compromise.

The best example was the Wall funding standoff. Things like this are normally resolved by a backroom deal where each side gets half of what they wanted but with a plausible PR cover. But because the media made it into a Trump v Pelosi thing there was no compromise possible.

When you think about it this is when the gloves went off - in big part because the media pressure made it too costly politically to pull back

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Metoo]
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I firmly believe the controversies are being whipped up at a level above the media itself- hence the repetition of talking points across networks.

Once you see it....


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: susurrador] * 4
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sh4d0ws]
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A bit of a hasty generalization.

:musky:

Funny how coronavirus isn't contagious anymore. Did the protests usher in herd immunity?

What's coronavirus?

It kind of looks like this under a microscope from what I've heard.

:circlejerk:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: susurrador]
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Yeah, for all the redneck Covid protesting at my State's capital and the critiques thereof; I am not hearing the same type for the protests.

"A Covid on both your houses"
- Mercutio  (paraphrased Shakespeare)


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Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: SirTripAlot]
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Indeed. Long forgotten.

The media will taper off the covid stories rapidly enough that most people won't ever go back and say, "Huh.... it just disappeared in May, just like Trump said it might."

Trump is no fool. I just hope the man stays safe.

TRUMP 2020


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: sh4d0ws] * 1
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sh4d0ws said:



3 weeks ago leftists wanted the economy shut down due to coronavirus fears. Guy unfortunately dies at the hands of the police: fuck the shutdown, we're hitting the streets  :lol:

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: MagicMush123]
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timing and approach is everything

the nazis stormed closed buildings with guns and nazi flags and NO MASKS

and were funded by billionaires

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: susurrador] * 2
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susurrador said:
Provide = Free stuff and dependencies. (Child-like existence)

Freedom = Time and space and opportunity to show the world what you are made of and what you have to offer. The opportunity to both fail and succeed by your own merits. (EDIT- because failure is still progress on the road to success)

Who wants to settle in life for handouts? May each man be responsible for his own life and happiness as the founders intended.

The spirit of America is rugged individualism, and I have zero faith any career politicians have the ability to provide for Americans anything close to the level of satisfaction in life one achieves by carving out their own existence and sustenance with their own blood, sweat, and tears.

The backbone of America is still family and farm, despite the narrative of the day.

MAGA! TRUMP2020



How come The Elite love trillions of free money from this recent crisis?  They don't give fuck about being dependent on the working class for endless bailouts.

They don't give a fuck out the "freedom" to show how wonderful they are, they like free money.

They don't give a fuck about rugged individualism, they love "too big too fail" and run away with the money.

The Elite have complete faith in their bought and paid for politicians, why is that?

Trump doesn't give a fuck about us, he just bailouts out the very rich at our expense, just like Obama did.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
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I just went outside and shot my gun a bunch of times cause it pleases me. Also keeps the methhead neighbors on their toes. Merica.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: susurrador] * 4
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susurrador said:
Brian Jones said:
susurrador said:

The backbone of America is still family and farm, despite the narrative of the day.

MAGA! TRUMP2020

:rocketcrotch::rocketcrotch::rocketcrotch:


Welcome to the 1800's. Where do you get your information from?


Experience mostly. Eating well as a result of your labor on land you own will never go out of style. Having a surplus to share and trade will never go out of style. Homesteading, ranching, farming will never go out of style.

It means you rely on no external inputs for survival.

That's as American as it gets. You don't hear much from us, because we're working the land and raising families. But we're out here living the American dream while other people who don't have their own lives together are preaching that they know what is best for other people.


That's fine that you found a niche that works for you. But since the rest of the U.S, and developed world has moved from agricultural to industrial to post industrial, you're hardly the backbone of America.

Let's face it. You don't really want to hear what we have to say, and vice versa.


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I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

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The truth which conceals that there is none

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Ovoidhunter]
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Ovoidhunter said:
I just went outside and shot my gun a bunch of times cause it pleases me. Also keeps the methhead neighbors on their toes. Merica.


Also, tell them to stay off your lawn; don't want to just waste bullets.


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"The Rolling Stones will break up over Brian Jones' dead body"    John Lennon

I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

Simulacrum
The truth which conceals that there is none

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
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qman said:
susurrador said:
Provide = Free stuff and dependencies. (Child-like existence)

Freedom = Time and space and opportunity to show the world what you are made of and what you have to offer. The opportunity to both fail and succeed by your own merits. (EDIT- because failure is still progress on the road to success)

Who wants to settle in life for handouts? May each man be responsible for his own life and happiness as the founders intended.

The spirit of America is rugged individualism, and I have zero faith any career politicians have the ability to provide for Americans anything close to the level of satisfaction in life one achieves by carving out their own existence and sustenance with their own blood, sweat, and tears.

The backbone of America is still family and farm, despite the narrative of the day.

MAGA! TRUMP2020



How come The Elite love trillions of free money from this recent crisis?  They don't give fuck about being dependent on the working class for endless bailouts.

They don't give a fuck out the "freedom" to show how wonderful they are, they like free money.

They don't give a fuck about rugged individualism, they love "too big too fail" and run away with the money.

The Elite have complete faith in their bought and paid for politicians, why is that?

Trump doesn't give a fuck about us, he just bailouts out the very rich at our expense, just like Obama did.


Yes, the rugged individualism is just for people who work for a living, whether they are workers or small business owners. I'm not hearing too many too big to fail banks talking about rugged individualism.

In 1987, Smith Barney had a famous commercial with British-American actor John Housman saying with a heavy accent, "We earn money the old fashioned way. We earn it." Smith Barney has since merged with Travelers, Citigroup and Saloman Brothers (the latter invented the bundled mortgage instruments that destroyed the economy the last time),  We wont be hearing any investment banks using that rhetoric again.


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"The Rolling Stones will break up over Brian Jones' dead body"    John Lennon

I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

Simulacrum
The truth which conceals that there is none

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
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You can't eat industry nor technology nor any combination of the two. Can't eat finance either.

Food is the backbone of every civilization and will always be.

A nation can survive without industry and tech if there is food, but not only with industry and tech.

This means the producers of food had to come first and only then could people be sustained for any other pursuits.

This will never change. The method of providing food may, but the producing of food will always be human's most important task.

The city life is what's killing America. Everything about it. The universities, the crime, the waste, the poverty, the hate, it's all a big shit show and rare is the happy person.

Go out to the country and you'll find people that seem like they're out of the 50s. And they're beaming, radiant, strong, and have good morals. Not everyone, but overwhelmingly.

It is a niche that can still work for just about anyone as an alternative to the poisoned cities and slums and cramped apartment buildings and traffic and crime and misery found in cities.

It's tending the Earth. The people tending the Earth are indeed the backbone of America. Take them out of the picture and the whole country starves in a matter of months. You could remove any other segment of America and everything would continue on.

People are waking up to this.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: susurrador]
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I don't know anything about you. But I know that most of the people that I do know that went your route are escaping from society. Whether there is an escape from society or not is debatable. What is not debatable is that your route is not an option for the masses even if they were so inclined. You could buy land at a reasonable price precisely because most people don't want to live there. If most people did want to live there, you could not buy it at a reasonable price. That is an unchangeable law of real estate prices.

I like to buy tomatoes from a farm stand; they're better. But most of the food that Americans eat comes from corporate farming and that trend is not going away.

I like to be around a lot of people, even though I think a lot of them are assholes. I'll take the good with the bad.


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"The Rolling Stones will break up over Brian Jones' dead body"    John Lennon

I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

Simulacrum
The truth which conceals that there is none

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: susurrador] * 1
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susurrador said:
The city life is what's killing America. Everything about it. The universities, the crime, the waste, the poverty, the hate, it's all a big shit show and rare is the happy person.




You sound very ignorant.


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