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Re: Official Shroomery Shape-Up Program! [Re: Zero7a1]
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well dont eat too much protein - an overdose of protein will destroy your kidney and liver. eat avacados... ya know... healthy fat


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Re: Official Shroomery Shape-Up Program! [Re: Zero7a1]
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Increase your daily caloric intake in primarily the carbohydrate area and secondly in the protein area if you wish to put on size.

Del, I don't agree on the 20 rep abdominal scheme actually.

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Re: Official Shroomery Shape-Up Program! [Re: Delyrium]
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Man, if my only problem were to GAIN weight. 

I've had a workout plan that I can do in my dorm room in less than an hour.  It covers cardio and lots of muscle toning.  As I grow fitter, I can add reps and minutes and such.  I really like it.

I would go to the gym here, because it's free with my tuition, but there are sooooo many super-skinny people on this campus!  I went to the gym several times last semester, but always felt self-conscious around all the skinny people working out there.  It's stupid, I know, but I feel like I can't show my face back in that gym unless I lose ten pounds. 

I'm 5'7" and approx. 165 lbs.  I've been 160 lbs for a while, but I try not to jinx things.  At my height, I should be around 135 lbs, I think.

Anyway, I have time to do this workout.  I like doing this workout.  My problem is getting around to actually doing it.  I'm a huge procrastinator and tend to put things off until it's too late.  Reading this thread makes me want to put on the techno and start hopping though, so I say keep it up!

Good idea for a thread.  I think this will help a lot of people.

-Atreau :rolleyes:

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Re: Official Shroomery Shape-Up Program! [Re: Atreau]
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johnb - you confuse me. hehe


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Re: Official Shroomery Shape-Up Program! [Re: Atreau]
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You should try running then, doing stand alone excersizes wont shed the pounds like running will :wink:. Not only that, it will help get your system to filter out more toxins. Rennen ist gut fur dich.


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Re: Official Shroomery Shape-Up Program! [Re: Delyrium]
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I have been a bodybuilder for a few years now and have a pretty good knowledge base to work with in terms of dieting (both for weight gain and loss).

I don't want to overdo myself because anyone who has a passion for this type of thing tends to go mental and start telling you too much. I will say a couple of things.

First of all, too much protein. Not going to happen for you people, not unless you really overdo it, it takes some serious work to overdo it.

Secondly, cardinal rule (not often talked about either) in terms of weight MANAGEMENT or LOSS is this.

- Always eat protein with a meal and never combine significant carbs and fat with a meal.

Now I know most of you don't want to go overboard so I will guarantee that if you atleast follow that rule you will not get any heavier. If you want to supercharge your metabolism try to eat more than 3 times a day (6 is optimum), smaller amounts. You've all heard it, you all probably think its really hard, its not. Your metabolism adapts extremely quickly and you will not run on fluctuating energy levels due to heavy ingestion of carbs so much.

Thirdly, never listen to anybody who comes up with ideas that protein powders or this or that is bad (or good). Ask for decent research sources. If you want the sources of what I am saying I will gladly give them. I will tell you this now, aside from protein and creatine there are very few supplements on the market that really work (steroids not included).

Finally, I see some people talking about self confidence. I will tell you what I have learnt over the years. Its hard to put it into a cohesive paragraph so I will just do it point wise.

- Embarassed in the gym because you're out of shape? stop talking crap! anyone who makes fun of you is jackass and deserves superbad karma. Every time a person laughs at you in the gym they take a chunk of your confidence. You can't stop them doing that but you can turn that frown upside down. Naysayers must make you more determined to succeed, if you don't play the game like that you will never get anywhere.

- Its all about regular goals, don't weigh yourself every day, every week is fine. Always at the same time of the day, full bladder, full stomach and clothes always add to the weight.

- When you think about what you want to achieve, don't think about the work it will take like it is amazing. Seriously, every time you get that lower weight (or higher, depends on goal) you will feel good. It is extremely satisfying. You need not think that losing weight means you will only be happy when you get to your ideal weight. As long as you are moving forward you will feel great.

- Don't want to go to the gym? work out at home!, facillitate the situation so its not that inconvenient to do it. The less inconvenient it is the easier it is to not face the pangs of "i dont want to go to the gym".

I'm going to end this post on a negative point, really I need to say this because I feel like you guys can hear the truth.

Most people who do this fail. They quit really quick, they either quit because their halfass attempt didn't work, because working out is hard, because of self confidence etc etc. Basically they quit because they didn't want it enough. There wasn't enough motivation for one reason or another. Its not that it is hard, it is quite normal after a few days of doing what you have to do but people don't realise that.

Anybody who whinges publically about going to the gym or having eat this or that will fail. Its ok to feel some discomfort having to do it, just don't acknowledge it. Its a means to an end. The great thing is working out (particular lifting weight) is a fabulous antidepressant. So many people do not know this.

Look at this, I've written a mass of information. I'm sorry I really couldn't help it. Let me finish on a positive point, food for thought. I have never met anybody who works out regularly and eats properly who does not have their shit together. It just doesn't happen.

Edited by utopianglory (05/03/04 10:39 AM)

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Re: Official Shroomery Shape-Up Program! [Re: johnB`]
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johnB` said:
Increase your daily caloric intake in primarily the carbohydrate area and secondly in the protein area if you wish to put on size.

Del, I don't agree on the 20 rep abdominal scheme actually.


I would mildly disagree here. If you want to put on weight you must learn to count calories. There is no priority nutrient here - they are all important. Don't neglect fat or you will find you go nowhere..

Let me dispell some myths about abwork. You can only see your abdominal muscles at below 10% bodyfat for males. Not sure for female. You do not burn a lot of fat doing abdominal exercises. Don't waste your time doing ab work if you are not going to lose the fat, you will never see them! Seriously, abwork is truly very low in terms of priority. DIET is the most important thing. You will go nowhere without eating smart.

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Re: Official Shroomery Shape-Up Program! [Re: utopianglory]
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Oh god I had to say something here.

You will not loose much fat doing pilates. It is a waste of time. Run, lift weight but for gods sake don't waste your time with any "chic" flavor of the month exercise programs like pilates. If you are not panting like a dog and sweating like a mule.. you're wasting your time. Exercise properly and you will feel good afterwards and sleep much better.

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Re: Official Shroomery Shape-Up Program! [Re: Atreau]
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Atreau said:
Man, if my only problem were to GAIN weight. 

I've had a workout plan that I can do in my dorm room in less than an hour.  It covers cardio and lots of muscle toning.  As I grow fitter, I can add reps and minutes and such.  I really like it.

I would go to the gym here, because it's free with my tuition, but there are sooooo many super-skinny people on this campus!  I went to the gym several times last semester, but always felt self-conscious around all the skinny people working out there.  It's stupid, I know, but I feel like I can't show my face back in that gym unless I lose ten pounds. 

I'm 5'7" and approx. 165 lbs.  I've been 160 lbs for a while, but I try not to jinx things.  At my height, I should be around 135 lbs, I think.

Anyway, I have time to do this workout.  I like doing this workout.  My problem is getting around to actually doing it.  I'm a huge procrastinator and tend to put things off until it's too late.  Reading this thread makes me want to put on the techno and start hopping though, so I say keep it up!

Good idea for a thread.  I think this will help a lot of people.

-Atreau :rolleyes:



Could you post your program? I am skeptical.  I will say this though, if you have room in your dorm room skipping is a very good exercise if you insist on staying home. 

I was mostly talking to you about self confidence before.  Trust me, the skinny guys want to get big and the overweight guys want to get small.  Almost nobody is happy and generally most people are feeling a little bit self conscious there.  Stop thinking people are looking and laughing.  You lose a couple of pounds in a week for a few weeks and people will notice.  Don't sell yourself short by doing a workout that is less effective in your dorm.  Go to your gym and give it your all.  30 pounds is not that overweight. You are not obese.

Edited by utopianglory (05/03/04 11:12 AM)

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Re: Official Shroomery Shape-Up Program! [Re: Delyrium]
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Alright here are my beginning measurements. Now I just need to start doing something and continue with it.  :smile:

Chest: 32.5
Waist: 28
Hips: 34
Thigh: 20
Neck: 11.5

Current Weight: 104

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Re: Official Shroomery Shape-Up Program! [Re: Delyrium]
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My exercise program is as fallows. Liquid diet of coffee then onto Mt Dew for lunch falowed by beer in the evenings. And a 2 mile jog every day. Where do you take measurments at?

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Re: Official Shroomery Shape-Up Program! [Re: Elise]
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104.. :cool:...relax and have a cheeseburger


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Re: Official Shroomery Shape-Up Program! [Re: Ripple]
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Yeah for reel!

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Re: Official Shroomery Shape-Up Program! [Re: utopianglory]
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Good post utopia... really informative. I find inconvenience a big problem, so I just work out at home.

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Re: Official Shroomery Shape-Up Program! [Re: Delyrium]
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I already have been trying to do this, but finals and lack-of-sleep have been kicking my ass. Of course, I'm all for it.


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Re: Official Shroomery Shape-Up Program! [Re: Delyrium]
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Ok those of you giving measurements, the things that are most interesting are height, weight and bodyfat percentage. BF is not exactly easy to pull out of a hat though, if you are serious about monitoring it heavily then you need calipers to measure some sites on your body (by grabbing the skin and measuring thickness). Anyway, I digress because most of you do not want to do that. Basically you only need to talk about your weight and height. The thing about measuring waist and whatnot is that it not superbly relevent. Do not be fooled by the fact that a bodypart has not lost size even if you have lost weight. The way your body burns the fat away is quite strange is mostly a sequence of bodyparts. I can't be bothered to find the sequence for you now but if you want it again I will give it to you. As I say, height and weight. Oh and gender if its not obvious in your name.

Edited by utopianglory (05/03/04 11:46 AM)

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Re: Official Shroomery Shape-Up Program! [Re: ]
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Get a measuring tape and go to  Crosstrainer to know how exactly to measure yourself.


Ripple: Yes I may only be 104 but I have a lot of toning up to do.  :smirk:

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Re: Official Shroomery Shape-Up Program! [Re: utopianglory]
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Okay...

Cant measure my body fat, but I am 5'0 and 104 lbs.

Thanks for all your advice!!! I won't be doing the pilates anymore.  :smile:

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Re: Official Shroomery Shape-Up Program! [Re: Elise]
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Toning up is best done lifting weight Elise. You will notice tone much quicker this way. And no you will never get muscular lifting weight..

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Re: Official Shroomery Shape-Up Program! [Re: utopianglory]
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"The way your body burns the fat away is quite strange is mostly a sequence of bodyparts."

Well you can't leave us hanging now?


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