JHOVA said:

you guys think anyone to the right of marx is alt-right whatever that means these days. the left allows no dissent. thats why james watson was excommunicated. there is no debate. you just label dissenting opinion and move on and then are shocked by the pent up anger. the best way to prevent violence is through debate.

a sampling of some of the youtube political centrists i follow are sargon, shoeonhead, vee, armored skeptic, amazing atheist, tim pool, and luke rudowski. these guys sit so far in the middle theres a pole up their asses. thats what they identify as at least; as centrists. to me they are the dying breed of libertarian leftist who are alienated from both sides. they disagree with the right's views on biological racial differences/separation being preferable to conflict, and the lefts affirmative action polices. they agree with leftist progressive policies towards the POC/LGBT/wahmen coalition and with the right on  fiscal responsibility, though the economic stuff is second to culture war politics. they are at odds with the far-left's "authoritarian" moves in social media banning the anti-establishment left and right in one swoop.

what i mean to say is you dont want these alienated leftists and the right doesnt either. the only place for them is a vanilla ukip civic nationalist/turning point usa charlie kirk type deal.

the democrat party really is going to have to split pretty soon. i predict there will be a break away far left party that AOC tlaib and the rising hispanic demographic (which is going to overtake the black demographic very soon). the democrat party is full of octogenarians and not willing to address the problems of today just as much as the republican party is stuck in boomer conservatism.  most elected offiicals can barely identify let alone legislate social media.

the guy hates racism so much he hates people dating within their race lol. thats leftist to me.

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Brian Jones said:

The reason we think "anyone to the right of marx is alt-right" is because moderate Republicans haven't won anything in this century. Since W the alt-right is what we see.


You make interesting points in your last paragraph. It will be interesting to see how the Democratic Party shakes out. They have been afraid to go left since McGovern got creamed by Nixon in 72. Any of us who thought Obama was left were wrong. But it looks like it's going to happen in the next 18 months. The demographic trends do seem to favor the Dems, but it all comes down to getting people to vote. Low turnout has helped the Republicans for a long time.

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lowbrow said:

Brian Jones said:

The reason we think "anyone to the right of marx is alt-right" is because moderate Republicans haven't won anything in this century. Since W the alt-right is what we see.


You make interesting points in your last paragraph. It will be interesting to see how the Democratic Party shakes out. They have been afraid to go left since McGovern got creamed by Nixon in 72. Any of us who thought Obama was left were wrong. But it looks like it's going to happen in the next 18 months. The demographic trends do seem to favor the Dems, but it all comes down to getting people to vote. Low turnout has helped the Republicans for a long time.

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What’s your definition of alt-right?

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Kryptos said:

lowbrow said:

What’s your definition of alt-right?

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This year's CPAC.

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lowbrow said:

Kryptos said:

lowbrow said:

What’s your definition of alt-right?

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This year's CPAC.

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When you say something like that you’re basically calling all conservatives nazis.

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Kryptos said:

Yep, pretty much. Up until this year, CPAC was a relatively tame event which I actually enjoyed watching footage of. I even agreed with some of the speakers.

This year, it looked like a straight up Hitler rally painted orange. Down to the bringing "victims" on stage.

If you don't like being referred to as a Nazi, then I suggest you form a conservative party. Not a Neo-Nazi party. Otherwise, wear the label with pride, just like those idiots that keep complaining about being harassed when they wear MAGA hats.

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lowbrow said:

Brian Jones said:

The reason we think "anyone to the right of marx is alt-right" is because moderate Republicans haven't won anything in this century. Since W the alt-right is what we see.


You make interesting points in your last paragraph. It will be interesting to see how the Democratic Party shakes out. They have been afraid to go left since McGovern got creamed by Nixon in 72. Any of us who thought Obama was left were wrong. But it looks like it's going to happen in the next 18 months. The demographic trends do seem to favor the Dems, but it all comes down to getting people to vote. Low turnout has helped the Republicans for a long time.

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What’s your definition of alt-right?

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Kryptos said:

Maybe. All I can really tell you is that right now, a dude wearing a MAGA hat unnerves me. I truly do believe that they wish me, personally, emotional and physical pain, as well as towards most of my friends. And they keep shooting up places, mailing people bombs, and kidnapping people at gunpoint while impersonating law enforcement.

If I wasn't white, I wouldn't go outside at night anymore, if I lived in MAGA country.

I can't really be any more clear than that.

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most gun crime is committed by gangs and most gangs are black or hispanic. be afraid of those demographics. 13% of the population commits 50% of the murders. it aint white people.

3/4 of victims and assailants of mass shootings are black

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Over all, though, nearly three-fourths of victims and suspected assailants whose race could be identified were black. Some experts suggest that helps explain why the drumbeat of dead and wounded does not inspire more outrage.

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lowbrow said:

Kryptos said:

lowbrow said:

What’s your definition of alt-right?

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This year's CPAC.

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When you say something like that you’re basically calling all conservatives nazis.

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Kryptos said:

Maybe. All I can really tell you is that right now, a dude wearing a MAGA hat unnerves me. I truly do believe that they wish me, personally, emotional and physical pain, as well as towards most of my friends. And they keep shooting up places, mailing people bombs, and kidnapping people at gunpoint while impersonating law enforcement.

If I wasn't white, I wouldn't go outside at night anymore, if I lived in MAGA country.

I can't really be any more clear than that.

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