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sudly said:

Relatively short term goals mate, H.R. 1 can make a difference in building political momentum while the Green New Deal addresses the issue of emissions reductions and sustainable energy production, it would make a real difference by 2030 if implemented. It also creates a lot of jobs.

Refugees and cataclysm comes after the fact so for now it’s a good first step to at least get foot in the door.

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The higher cost of energy will also cost millions of jobs and the potential death of millions of humans. There's no free lunch here.

Our whole existence in a modern economy is completely based on the return on energy investment, the cheaper the energy results in a higher standard of living.

Nuclear energy should be the best choice, but nothing is being done about it.

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laughingdog said: Apparently nothing in our power can mitigate disastrous flooding, famine, war, and weather upheaval fueling complete destruction of our social fabric and economies."

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Sadly, the latest climate data, emissions data and data on the spread of carbon-intensive lifestyles show that the landslide has already begun. As the point of no return can’t be fully known until after the event, ambitious work on reducing carbon emissions and extracting more from the air (naturally and synthetically) is more critical than ever. That must involve a new front of action on methane.

Disruptive impacts from climate change are now inevitable. Geoengineering is likely to be ineffective or counter-productive. Therefore, the mainstream climate policy community now recognises the need to work much more on adaptation to the effects of climate change. That must now rapidly permeate the broader field of people engaged in sustainable development as practitioners, researchers and educators. In assessing how our approaches could evolve, we need to appreciate what kind of adaptation is possible.

Recent research suggests that human societies will experience disruptions to their basic functioning within less than ten years due to climate stress. Such disruptions include increased levels of malnutrition, starvation, disease, civil conflict and war – and will not avoid affluent nations. This situation makes redundant the reformist approach to sustainable development and related fields of corporate sustainability that has underpinned the approach of many professionals (Bendell et al, 2017). Instead, a new approach which explores how to reduce harm and not make matters worse is important to develop. In support of that challenging, and ultimately personal process, understanding a deep adaptation agenda may be useful.

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The United States maintains 800 military bases worldwide at a cost of $100 billion a year. This is money that can be spent at home creating jobs, rebuilding infrastructure, and investing in the future of the people. The disastrous war in Iraq cost trillions, the war in Afghanistan is going on 17 years in with no end in sight, and we’re currently bombing 7 different countries. We spend more on our military than the next 8 countries combined. It’s time to end the wars and the perverse monetary incentive structure that makes politicians flippant about sending young men and women to die. Unilateral U.S. military force should only be used as a last resort to defend the nation. The current budget could be cut drastically if we used our department of defense for what it was intended — defending us, instead of waging interventionist wars.

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We recently gave Saudi Arabia billions in weapons and watched the civilian death toll in their vicious bombing campaign in Yemen tick up. We continue sending Egypt arms as they violently crack down on peaceful protesters. Israel received $38 billion in aid and promptly announced new settlements. The first step to peace is not enabling nations who regularly violate international law.

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The United States should catch up to every other modern nation and implement a single payer, Medicare for All system. It’s time to end the destruction of American health care by rapacious, price gouging, for-profit, private health insurance middlemen.

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laughingdog said: But overall, the 5 to 10 thousand years of history of the human race, has been one of selfishness and not one of compassion. No progress has been made, on this front during all of recorded history. Here and there attempts have been been made at isolated times & places, to do things differently, such as in the Israeli kibbutzim and the hippie communes, among a few other examples. But obviously world wide, nothing at all has been accomplished in 5 to 10 thousand years of history.

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laughingdog said:

...The lightweight teachings of the ‘Maharishi Mahesh Yogi’ of Beetle’s fame, with his 20 minutes of meditation, twice a day, obviously did nothing for the world, in spite of his claims, and the disciplines of the monastics are also not a solution for the world. Like wise it is unlikely that Eckhart Tolle’s claims that more people are ’starting to get it’, has any factual basis, especially as regards changing the world; much as I would like to believe him.

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Simonsays said:

Humanity might get through it, but society will likely collapse.

Learn to grow your own veggies!

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killingravensun said:

wow, its darkly hilarious how people get all worked up over a hoax, maybe learn some real science about the connection between the sun and our climate

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tryptkaloids said:

Maybe learn about every facet linked to climate before drawing such simplified conclusions

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