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reg fc vs unmodded fc * 1
    #25668134 -

ive been discussing differant fc w people over the last few days it came up that unmodded tubs are better than tubs w holes for fruting that are maually took care of and not set and forget i dissagree:crazy2:
w an unmodded tub they say all u need is the lid cracked and fliped over for suffencant fae i disagreed:crazy2: but i have never ran an un modded tub but i have seen not so good flushes from them in the mc :eek:
what would be the advadages of unmodded over a reg fc :shrug:
i totally undersatnd how a reg fc works but not so much a unmodded one:shrug: plz help understand the unmodded i asked for help understanding and got nothing in mc


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25668193 -

I could go into theories but I rely on what my eyes tell me with results and experience.

However if you want a theory the air gaps around the lid by the handles (4 of em) have more surface area than the holes in a traditional monotub. But my holes don't have any poly in them.

also I think you still believe CO2 sinks
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25667983

Here's some of my results


My unmodified monotub TEK


here's some other peoples

too much to quote

Sparky101 said:


Thanks for the tek, works good!



Sparky101 said:
First flush in the 32qt mono. 761g wet



This is the first time Iโ€™ve used the tubs specified in bods Unmodified mono tek. I didnโ€™t have to mist much with this tub, it basically took care of itself ๐Ÿ‘



Germs said:
Kaladin said:
My third go with unmodified tubs. Turned out real nice.





Better results than some who have been growing for ages



PopaCap said:
A bit smaller fruit than I was hoping for, but not a bad flush. I already harvested about 80 grams that were way ahead of the pack.




Captain Shadow said:
14 day harvest.









Madcapper144 said:


7qt b+ spawn 1 brick coir. I've been having issues with side pins so I added a light casing and boom!! Will update with weight soon as I get em all dry!!



Captain Shadow said:
The 80qt from 3qt of spawn. Took 23 days until harvest.



I wish my mushrooms would all open at the same time.
I wish I could get a thicker pinset.

Otherwise loving the tek.. :thumbup:



Captain Shadow said:
Went with the bread knife. Worked like a charm.






Myco Mako said:
Bump for the latest success story with this tek.  If you haven't tried it, it truly is EAF...











amidogen said:





sherpashaman said:




Captain Shadow said:
:thumbup: @ Day 19





https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25288835/fpart/1/vc/1
19 days no misting fanning or anything 0 maintenance

tripdawg420 said:
i have seen not so good flushes from them in the mc :eek:




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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc (moved) [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25668196 -

This thread was moved from Advanced Mycology.

Reason:
not advanced

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420] * 2
    #25668285 -

tripdawg420 said:
i have never ran an un modded tub but i have seen not so good flushes from them in the mc :eek:




Unmodified too.


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: Josex]
    #25668290 -

clipper lighters > Bic lighters
:manofapproval:

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: Josex]
    #25668298 -

Holy penises Batman:mushroom2:

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: Shroomspective]
    #25668339 -

just grow how u grow fuck it :headbang3:


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25668343 -

even if my grows performed 90% as well as the traditional design I can use my tubs for normal ass shit and they don't look weird. and I can easily float my substrate. But I believe they perform on par in the hands of anyone skilled

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25668500 -

i haven't really read through your unmodded write up bod but, can you stack them?

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #25668520 -

yea it's not the most beautiful but it works. picture is on first post of tek

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25668885 -




Unmodified. Easy and it works.


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: Organic_Magic]
    #25668895 -

ya i figured what makes these work i started reading his tek it does take matance to run a no mod tek see i got it now just like a reg one but a reg one  :headbang3: but imma still run a set and forget cuz i heard some one say for years fanning is not fae and all this well see:takingnotes:


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epic GT mono tub
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wbs tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11525679
coir tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11917410
results :thumbup:

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420] * 1
    #25668898 -

tripdawg420 said:
i heard some one say for years fanning is not fae



you should listen to that person. fanning aint doing shit. who fans anymore?:ilold:

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: mushboy]
    #25668901 -

mushboy said:
tripdawg420 said:
i heard some one say for years fanning is not fae



you should listen to that person. fanning aint doing shit. who fans anymore?:ilold:



i do :shrug:


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wbs tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11525679
coir tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11917410
results :thumbup:

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25668910 -

all is forgiven:god2:

i refer you to josexs pics. he also has tubs with holes but taped them up for obvious reasons.

ive seen them in his pics..
:creepylurker:

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: mushboy]
    #25668914 -

dude really aint on the same lvl of growing as me to compare note mo


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wbs tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11525679
coir tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11917410
results :thumbup:

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420] * 2
    #25668918 -

Yea i wouldn't put you on his level either. :rofl:

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25668919 -

lol right


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25668922 -

tripdawg420 said:
dude really aint on the same lvl of growing as me to compare note mo




Everybody pull your dicks out...were measuring again.
:rolleyes:


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: Organic_Magic]
    #25668931 -

naw but there is lvls to this shit man like every thing else


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epic GT mono tub
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wbs tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11525679
coir tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11917410
results :thumbup:

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25668935 -

What level is only a couple of few year old grow logs with ok flushes? I found one GT and one PESA grow log.

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25668937 -

:popcorn:


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25668948 -

alot u see the skill in them dont u
here sub to this one its live
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25656950


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coir tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11917410
results :thumbup:

Edited by tripdawg420 (12/09/18 09:37 PM)

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25668959 -

Unmodded tub is better than SGFC. But for some reason back in ancient history you did SGFC and think that it will always be the best. A mushroom could grow a mouth and tell you directly that it prefers the HC and you would still be like "naw yal wrong".


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: Rot]
    #25668963 -

Rot said:
Unmodded tub is better than SGFC. But for some reason back in ancient history you did SGFC and think that it will always be the best. A mushroom could grow a mouth and tell you directly that it prefers the HC and you would still be like "naw yal wrong".



:zombie3:


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epic GT mono tub
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wbs tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11525679
coir tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11917410
results :thumbup:

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420] * 1
    #25668968 -

You were joking about fanning right? Right? :smile:


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: Mateja]
    #25668969 -

Mateah said:
You were joking about fanning right? Right? :smile:



no


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wbs tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11525679
coir tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11917410
results :thumbup:

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25668972 -

Are you convinced yet that it's possible to grow flushes from wall to wall using unmodified tubs?


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: Mateja]
    #25668975 -

Mateah said:
Are you convinced yet that it's possible to grow flushes from wall to wall using unmodified tubs?



imma try it i understand why u guys think it better than a reg fc buy ya there still supar to a reg one
all u guys have to do is pop 2 inch hole in them and i bet your yeild will raise but well see :shrug:


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wbs tek
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coir tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11917410
results :thumbup:

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: Mateja]
    #25668976 -

So Iโ€™ve read the tek on the HC with fruiting cakes and will be trying it shortly.  But how are you using the HC to fruit bulk subs? 

For the cakes they float on a plasma of verm and have foil underneath.  How the hell do you float a bulked substrate through the length of the HC?

Am I missing something here?

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: SumFunGi]
    #25668979 -

SumFunGi said:
So Iโ€™ve read the tek on the HC with fruiting cakes and will be trying it shortly.  But how are you using the HC to fruit bulk subs? 

For the cakes they float on a plasma of verm and have foil underneath.  How the hell do you float a bulked substrate through the length of the HC?

Am I missing something here?



i would stay clear of that use a sgfc for very good reults man


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epic GT mono tub
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17277772

wbs tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11525679
coir tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11917410
results :thumbup:

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: SumFunGi]
    #25668980 -

A bulk sub is a HC in itself :lol:

I was influenced by unmodified tubs when I thought of the HC :super:


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Cakes inside Water Tub with optimal Surface Conditions

Edited by Mateja (12/09/18 10:08 PM)

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: Mateja]
    #25668984 -

Have you posted your recipe for the bulk sub in an HC?  If so can you link it or point me in the right direction?

Iโ€™m a noobian brotha and need directions.  Iโ€™m doing the cakes in an HC, but wanted to try bulk as well if I knew what to do.

Thanks for the helpful tips!

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: SumFunGi]
    #25668988 -

tripdawg420 said:
i would stay clear of that



I'll put 27 of these into different types of HC setups next week. Some will fruit with the lid flipped and some with the lid regularly on.
o what happens if I get full flushes from most cakes with minimal 'manual' fruiting?
Will that open you up to some new ideas or is it still shit compared to other setups?
SumFunGi said:
Have you posted your recipe for the bulk sub in an HC?  If so can you link it or point me in the right direction?

Iโ€™m a noobian brotha and need directions.  Iโ€™m doing the cakes in an HC, but wanted to try bulk as well if I knew what to do.

Thanks for the helpful tips!



Third link in my sig if you want to try Spawning cakes  :thumbup:
For bulk grows just mix your spawn and coir inside a tub and that's it :thumbup: spawn can be grain or BRF or whatever.

A bulk substrate creates its own micro climate it doesn't need a fruiting chamber it IS the fruiting chamber itself :super:


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Cakes inside Water Tub with optimal Surface Conditions

Edited by Mateja (12/09/18 10:22 PM)

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: Mateja]
    #25668989 -

naw i will never know what u do to the fc
i still belive in the sgfc theroy :shrug: and how and why it works
but saying 27 is a odd number of cakes to get what recipe do u use to achive that odd number


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25668992 -

The 2:1:1 recipe.

I put twice as much vermiculite than water and BRF and that's about it. There are no other measurements :super:

Also I had 27 jars and wanted to make 27 BRF cakes


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Cakes inside Water Tub with optimal Surface Conditions

Edited by Mateja (12/09/18 10:25 PM)

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: Mateja]
    #25668994 -

lol ok
let me guess u use the tall jars too :shrug:


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coir tek
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results :thumbup:

Edited by tripdawg420 (12/09/18 10:26 PM)

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25668998 -

You have eyes don't you? Do they look tall?


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: Mateja]
    #25669002 -

lol ok ya keep us updated on them 27 cakes :laugh2:


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coir tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11917410
results :thumbup:

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25669003 -

Yes I will, that was the plan all along :cheers:
I assume cakes look like shit to you and I should be happy to get any kind of fruits in the HC? Is that right? :popcorn:


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: Mateja]
    #25669006 -

naw man when i was doing cakes i had 6 106 qts sgfc and was trying to make 50 cakes a week w a 8 qt pc i know alot oabout cakes
heres a pic of the last cake i harvested this is the second flush i love this pic still cuz growing cakes was so fun

i bet there is perlite in that trailer to this day


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epic GT mono tub
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17277772

wbs tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11525679
coir tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11917410
results :thumbup:

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25669008 -

I almost filled my Presto to the brim this last time I made cakes. It looked so awesome :grin:

I actually have around 40 1/2 pint jars now :eatingout:


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: Mateja]
    #25669011 -

i cant wait to watch the show


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wbs tek
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coir tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11917410
results :thumbup:

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: Mateja]
    #25669019 -

Ok!  Got it now, thank you!  This truly looks easy AF.  And I know you gotta have some skill and check the damn things...  but from an entry level position, this seems the most logical and efficient thing to try first.

Last Question.  How thick in inches or cm. Do I want the layer of bulk substrate to be when it goes into the HC?

Thank you again.  Looking forward to posting my success or failure soon.  Iโ€™m at 100% colonization on 13 1/2 pint BRF cakes and waiting for them to consolidate a bit more.

Then itโ€™s this...

Iโ€™m going to do just coir as you have suggested and only add in dry verm if itโ€™s over field capacity.  Iโ€™m also going to use a 1:2 ratio.  BRF cake : Coir.

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: SumFunGi]
    #25669102 -

If you're going to spawn cakes I suggest you check out the third link in my sig which will direct you to MushroomNate's thread about spawning cakes. You'll find all the info there and you can post questions in that thread!

And you don't need HC for a bulk grow. Cakes/grain mixed with coir inside a tub is fruited just like that from the tub it's in. The substrate itself creates the humidity it needs :thumbup:

A HC is basically a bulk grow substrate inside a tub and cakes on top of the substrate. (but the substrate is not inoculated with spawn)

Ehh. Just check out Nate's thread and you'll get it :goodluck:


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Cakes inside Water Tub with optimal Surface Conditions

Edited by Mateja (12/10/18 12:24 AM)

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: Mateja]
    #25669145 -

Co2 will settle our of air with no movement. In a sealed airtight box. If there are currents if air then there is mixture. The air does circulate as describe in the mono Tek but not because of co2 settling.

What if you have many tubs? Isn't it better to have a set and forget system?


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: sui]
    #25669147 -

I've had success with both modded and unmodded. they both work, its all about keeping your surface moisture up while providing adequate fae. You do that and you can make any FC work. I mean pasty fruited a bath tub and ham fruited a kiddy pool lol.


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: sui]
    #25669225 -

sui said:
Co2 will settle our of air with no movement. In a sealed airtight box. If there are currents if air then there is mixture. The air does circulate as describe in the mono Tek but not because of co2 settling.

What if you have many tubs? Isn't it better to have a set and forget system?



no manually taking care of your tubs will give way better results than a set and forget


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HUSTLER
How U Survive This Life Everyday Resourcefully
epic GT mono tub
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17277772

wbs tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11525679
coir tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11917410
results :thumbup:

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: sui]
    #25669296 -

sui said:
Co2 will settle our of air with no movement. In a sealed airtight box. If there are currents if air then there is mixture. The air does circulate as describe in the mono Tek but not because of co2 settling.

What if you have many tubs? Isn't it better to have a set and forget system?



The airtight box has to be a few miles high for that to happen actually

Quote:
A column of air has to be about 5 miles high for co2 to settle out with no convection. Otherwise Brownian motion keeps them mixed

This is known as scale height for gas pressure



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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: bodhisatta]
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Oh cool.


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: sui]
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I'm pretty stoked to not have to cut holes in tubs. Last time I did a mono was like 7 years ago.


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: sui]
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sui said:
I'm pretty stoked to not have to cut holes in tubs. Last time I did a mono was like 7 years ago.



i would still make holes


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25669691 -

I can always make them if I need to, I can't uncut them.


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: sui]
    #25669693 -

:thumbup:


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25669694 -

The holes are made by virtue of how the lid fits when it's upside down. My holes are bigger and less stuffed than monotub holes. And i skip the pointless bottom holes that don't do shit Because air follows the path of least resistance

Some monotub theories say air goes in the bottom holes out the top. Some monotub theories say air goes out the bottom holes in the top.  That's why they're theories. They're useless opinions not measured facts

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25669703 -

holes are made for alot of reasons thats old shcool ways of groweing before the figured out air flow thur the tub ya it works but tubs need air coming in thur the holes and out the top
if not it will start to fill with hot atale humid air and choke out the sub till u come along and maualy check on it there is no constant air being pulled in and out the tub w out holes just my take


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: bodhisatta] * 3
    #25669717 -

This "hole" discussion is "growing" on me. We have "mushroom" for all opinions here. I'm really "lichen" this a lot. Doesn't seem like to much "truffle" at all! "Amanita" think about the best way to do this. The "mold" way or the new way? "Yeast!" Theres so "mush" info here you can never get " spored"! I think I "mycorhyzae"!


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: sui]
    #25669720 -

keep us posted what u do man :headbang3:


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420] * 1
    #25669742 -

Climate has a lot to do with fc type and how well they perform.


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: Mycolorado] * 1
    #25669744 -

Aknowledge my puns! :crankey:


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: sui] * 1
    #25669778 -

Youโ€™re a fungi and all but I have morel standards. :shrug:


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: Mycolorado]
    #25669784 -

Mycolorado said:
Youโ€™re a fungi and all but I have morel standards. :shrug:



:awesome:


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: sui]
    #25669792 -

From the title, I expected to see some gd comparisons, not all this speculation.


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: LadysKnight]
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LadysKnight said:
From the title, I expected to see some gd comparisons, not all this speculation.



there has been over the last 30 year


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420]
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Any head to head (same spawn/prep/etc) comparisons?


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: LadysKnight]
    #25669807 -

yes theres a reson people put holes in tubs


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25669810 -

Yeah well I've seen great results both ways. We can speculate all day which is best, but can't know without some actual head to head comparisons.


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: LadysKnight]
    #25669811 -

nio theres no specution people have aready been down this road holes vs no holes before our time of growing


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25669812 -

The ohmatic monotub tek came out in 2006 going by his thread on shroomery. Ohm had a growlog using a mono in 2005.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5276282
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4844641/fpart/1/vc/1


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: JHOVA]
    #25669822 -

dudes the man:bow2:


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: JHOVA]
    #25669823 -

i ran unmodded in 2005-2006. started off just doing trays inside unmodded totes.

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: mushboy]
    #25669830 -

Was unmodded in 01, used a big pot with a clear plastic domed lid, to avoid dealing with a dripshield. Ha.


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: LadysKnight]
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LadysKnight said:
Was unmodded in 01, used a big pot with a clear plastic domed lid, to avoid dealing with a dripshield. Ha.



:takingnotes:


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: LadysKnight]
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LadysKnight said:
Any head to head (same spawn/prep/etc) comparisons?



Every unmodified tubs sub/spawn/prep has been done as a normal mono lol. You could do a hundred comparisons real easy with the search

I guarantee that someone has used a brick of coir and 5q of spawn with a hole drilled mono.

We measure yield based on amount of spawn put in. And by those metrics all tubs are equal in the hands of a competent grower. 2oz per quart of spawn first flush is pretty much the bar these days. And 1oz per quart at the least what you should expect from MS

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: bodhisatta]
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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: sui]
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Ive seen some real nice grows in those.

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: bodhisatta]
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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: bodhisatta]
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bodhisatta said:
Ive seen some real nice grows in those.



Figured it would work well. Got a link?


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: sui]
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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: Organic_Magic]
    #25670059 -

Yeah I'm looking for wholesale...


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: sui]
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That makes sense, duh. :facepalm:


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: bodhisatta]
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bodhisatta said:
LadysKnight said:
Any head to head (same spawn/prep/etc) comparisons?



Every unmodified tubs sub/spawn/prep has been done as a normal mono lol. You could do a hundred comparisons real easy with the search



I feel like maybe I'm not saying this right...


I understand everything unmodded has been done modded.

I'm saying what about a real-time, side-by-side, simultaneous grow of the same isolate under the exact same conditions, at the exact same time, with the only difference being modded and unmodded tubs.

Is there no value in this comparison?


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: Organic_Magic]
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Organic_Magic said:
sui said:
https://www.greenhousemegastore.com/containers-trays/trays-flats/7-vented-humidity-dome-for-1020-tray?dfw_tracker=43186-PR-DOME7&gclid=Cj0KCQiAurjgBRCqARIsAD09sg8CsJ9mzDjQUpoVr0UCVklkdb21AmAoZWcxVz6yIjNi2cY0gL-2hSgaAnc_EALw_wcB

I'm thinking about getting some of these things.



Looks cool but kinda fucking pricey!
Five bucks for just the clear plastic top?!



This equivelant tub is 5 bucks. Comparatively it's worth it it's the best of both worlds. Nice tray depth, easy access, and humidity control and it's 3 inches longer. Plus the bottom is only like 2 bucks.

https://www.target.com/p/sterilite-174-clearview-latch-storage-bin-clear-with-purple-latch-3-75gal/-/A-13794491


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: LadysKnight]
    #25670219 -

no i have never seen it done im sure it has been or we wouldnt have modded them in the first place :shrug:
Is there no value in this comparison?
yes there is alot of value to this dissuction
can we hear your theory on fruiting


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: sui]
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sui said:
Organic_Magic said:
sui said:
https://www.greenhousemegastore.com/containers-trays/trays-flats/7-vented-humidity-dome-for-1020-tray?dfw_tracker=43186-PR-DOME7&gclid=Cj0KCQiAurjgBRCqARIsAD09sg8CsJ9mzDjQUpoVr0UCVklkdb21AmAoZWcxVz6yIjNi2cY0gL-2hSgaAnc_EALw_wcB

I'm thinking about getting some of these things.



Looks cool but kinda fucking pricey!
Five bucks for just the clear plastic top?!



This equivelant tub is 5 bucks. Comparatively it's worth it it's the best of both worlds. Nice tray depth, easy access, and humidity control

https://www.target.com/p/sterilite-174-clearview-latch-storage-bin-clear-with-purple-latch-3-75gal/-/A-13794491




Me likey!

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: Organic_Magic]
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i wish RR would bring his ass in here and set us all stright what we supose to be doing :confused:


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25670233 -

It looks like both work to me. The thing people are aguing over is ease of operation right? Which will take the least maintenance is the question.

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: sui]
    #25670239 -

no better heathyer flushes is what im after idc ill do what ever to get fatt results


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25670242 -

Do a test and see. You already mod your tubs right? Get a new one and see! You can always mod it if you don't like the results.


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: sui]
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sui said:
Do a test and see. You already mod your tubs right? Get a new one and see! You can always mod it if you don't like the results.



this is the plan :takingnotes:


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25670328 -

One nice thing about modded is that you can stack them.

However, I just use unmodified because I'd rather be sitting on my ass eating cheetos than drilling holes in my tubs.  I'm a lazy fuck :shrug:

Here's a few of my unmodded results tho:


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420] * 1
    #25670407 -

tripdawg420 said:
i wish RR would bring his ass in here and set us all stright what we supose to be doing :confused:



RR has never grown mushrooms in a monotub

Half the people using unmodified have started with modified tubs like myself. The other half are new to the game entirely.


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: bodhisatta]
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ya but i bet he knows whys and hows we dont idk fuck it:shrug:


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: LadysKnight]
    #25670417 -

LadysKnight said:
bodhisatta said:
LadysKnight said:
Any head to head (same spawn/prep/etc) comparisons?



Every unmodified tubs sub/spawn/prep has been done as a normal mono lol. You could do a hundred comparisons real easy with the search



I feel like maybe I'm not saying this right...


I understand everything unmodded has been done modded.

I'm saying what about a real-time, side-by-side, simultaneous grow of the same isolate under the exact same conditions, at the exact same time, with the only difference being modded and unmodded tubs.

Is there no value in this comparison?



Yea sure it could be a nice comparison. You would have to do that test with a few isolates tho. Otherwise its just comparison of how much one isolate likes one kind of tub more than another. Still need to average results over many trials

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25670420 -

I am gonna modify a bunch more of mine soon so I can stack em; modified monos definitely serve a good purpose


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420]
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tripdawg420 said:
ya but i bet he knows whys and hows we dont idk fuck it:shrug:



Betcha he says do what works. And would tell you not to take his sgfc theory so seriously. It was trial and error built. A theory was made to fit later.

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: Psicomb]
    #25670426 -

Psicomvb said:
I am gonna modify a bunch more of mine soon so I can stack em; modified monos definitely serve a good purpose



stacking monos isnt as good as u think u still need that rim around the edge to proper enviormnt :thumbup:


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25670429 -

I taped mine shut when I did mine.


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
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Or you know they do make shelves

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: bodhisatta]
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bodhisatta said:
tripdawg420 said:
ya but i bet he knows whys and hows we dont idk fuck it:shrug:



Betcha he says do what works. And would tell you not to take his sgfc theory so seriously. It was trial and error built. A theory was made to fit later.



i have to i have had so much sucess just w it and its theory moving to monos w it:thumbup: but ur right just grow how u grow:headbang3:


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: bodhisatta]
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Oh yeah, I forgot about how that type of sterilite stacks like that.


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: sui]
    #25670978 -

I thought there was a typo in that article and learned something new

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adatom

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: bodhisatta]
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bodhisatta said:
I thought there was a typo in that article and learned something new

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adatom



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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: sui]
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Im fairly new at this.  My first grow was BRF tek, It worked great. For my next grow I wanted to go bulk, then I just started doing Bods teks..  Bods teks just work,  without extra fuss.  Why make something more complicated when the uncomplicated version works just as well?  If you want to argue that the modified tubs are better than do the science and show us.  Id like to see the results.  Meanwhile I will do unmodified tubs because they are easy and they produce way more than I know what to do with.  Thanks Bod, great work man.


Anyway, Ive grown cubes and oysters now and I think FAE is over rated for cubes.  They just dont need that much in my experience.  Oysters on the other hand need a lot.

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: BBRad]
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Oysters basically need wind/breeze to grow appropriately

Cubes will grow in-vitro with no FAE at all and look normal in some cases.

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: bodhisatta]
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Oysters will fruit in a jar too. Cubes are grassland mushroom associated with ruminates they would probably be exposed to more wind growing in pasture grassland as opposed to oysters which would generally be near natural wind breaks(forest)


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: sui]
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Yea they'll grow but they'll look ugly as hell.

Oysters don't even do that good in a sgfc, worse in a tub

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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: bodhisatta]
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Here is my first oyster grow, in a martha tent.  I even had a fan in there. I basically had to grow them in an outdoor shed to get them to look like they should. 
Also, it is amazing how vigorous/metabolically active they are. When they are growing out in the grain jars, you can feel the heat they produce.



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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: bodhisatta]
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bodhisatta said:
Yea they'll grow but they'll look ugly as hell.

Oysters don't even do that good in a sgfc, worse in a tub



I'd do open air in Bags if I was going to g to fruit oysters. Some people do these really long hanging substrate tubes but it seems like a lot to lose if something contams. I'm going to do some reishi monotubs and pink oyster and lions mane growbags. I'm also going to make spawn for rugoso annulata. I'm working out a farmers market thang.


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: sui]
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Reishi does well as a set and forget in bags if you just want antlers.


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Re: reg fc vs unmodded fc [Re: sui]
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Looks interesting!

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