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Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes * 30
    #25339094 - 07/21/18 02:57 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

:sailboat: THE HUMIDITY CHAMBER :fishing:






A Humidity Chamber is any size/dimension tub, filled with 1-2inches of slightly over-hydrated coir. BRF cakes are then placed on top of the coir with something inbetween the two as to avoid direct contact. Place the lid back on leaving some openings for FAE and the HC is fully functional. What makes this setup so effective are these 3 little things:

1) It works equally well in extremely dry growing area's as it does in places where humidity is high.

2) FAE is actually adjustable and easily controlled by increasing/decresing the lid openings. The abundance in humidity created by the rich/fast (and most importantly neverending) evaporation off the coir will always protect the substrates on top of it from those extremely dry conditions that are so detrimental to fruit formstion. By substantially lowering the risk of too dry environments allows you to alter FAE rates in a wide variety with faster response.

3) last but not least, this setup is unbelievably simple to make in no time.




35L tub can commodate lots of cakes comfortably



5L tubs


Was curious to see what this oatmeal cake with no verm layer could do if I tried not misting it even once during fruiting, it did this.


These two BRF cakes were misted only once between dunking and this flsuh.


These cakes were totally neglected and not misted even once between several flushes. The tall and lanky fruits may have been from the extremely restricted FAE (thus lowering oxygen levels extremely as well) but it may also have been the typical characteristics of the AA+ variety. Or a variety between the two :eatingout: nevertheless its a testimony to how hands off this setup can be and still produce decent results.



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Just harvested my first fruits! Weighed about 20g wet, so an under-the-bed HC is absolutely possible!





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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Some Dude] * 1
    #25339101 - 07/21/18 03:02 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Ya dude.
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Cant wait to see more results. I bought a pack of half pints myself:awedance:

Does myc ever 'leap off' the cake and grow into the coir?


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: mushboy] * 1
    #25339105 - 07/21/18 03:04 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Bravo! :rockon:


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Some Dude] * 2
    #25339107 - 07/21/18 03:05 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Let me introduce the Humidity Chamber! It is simply a plastic tub filled with something wet. Let me repeat. It is a plastic tub filled with something wet!





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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Tormato] * 1
    #25339111 - 07/21/18 03:06 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Awesome the sgfc needs to be buried.


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: mushboy]
    #25339115 - 07/21/18 03:10 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Does myc ever 'leap off' the cake and grow into the coir?



It happened once when I used a small piece of aluminum foil and once when I acidentally dropped a cake into the chamber. But cakes inside upsidow lids works fine it seems.

Myc didn't get far on the soaking wet coir anyway lolz


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So, why bother saying "why bother"? it is what it is. The purpose is to experiment with procedures that venture outside the norm, is it necessary for growing mushrooms? Big nope. Is it fucking cool to think and experiment? Resounding yes.


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: kanemush]
    #25339118 - 07/21/18 03:17 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

This is awesome Mateah! :super:
This looks like a well needed update to that dusty old SGFC.
Also looks like a good solution for those who only have a few cakes at a time ready,and can't properly fill a SGFC.
I don't normally fruit cakes,but I may just have to give this tek a whirl.
Thanks for your time and research into this!
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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: mushroomnate] * 3
    #25339130 - 07/21/18 03:27 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

My personal SGFC has over 800 holes and it was built to specifics. I've had partial success with it, mostly when I started to get a grasp on what the substrates needed.  And this is the thing about the SGFC and growers who defend it, if you know how to grow you can make it work. But if youre a total noob (like most are fruiting cakes inside the SGFC) you're gonna see blue cakes that don't produce.


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So, why bother saying "why bother"? it is what it is. The purpose is to experiment with procedures that venture outside the norm, is it necessary for growing mushrooms? Big nope. Is it fucking cool to think and experiment? Resounding yes.


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Some Dude]
    #25339136 - 07/21/18 03:31 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Some Dude] * 1
    #25339159 - 07/21/18 03:46 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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My personal SGFC has over 800 holes




Not having to drill these holes is good enough reason to use this tek


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: pixelpopper] * 2
    #25339473 - 07/21/18 07:53 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

So you don't crack the lid or do anything for FAE? Have you tried different containers?


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: 36fuckin5] * 1
    #25339541 - 07/21/18 08:53 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

im assuming the lid is upside down ?


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: JHOVA] * 1
    #25339557 - 07/21/18 09:09 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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So you don't crack the lid or do anything for FAE? Have you tried different containers?



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im assuming the lid is upside down ?



I've done mostly 5L tubs like in the pics and also a few 11L tubs.

I've done both flipped lid and regular snapped on, didn't notice a difference really.

On early tries I did a few mistings here and there about 4-5 in total and progressively less and less misting until the last two grows were with no misting at all and with no verm on cakes. First flush always looks better than second flush, second flush fruits have some fuzzy feet. That still doesn't explain why first flush fruits don't have fuzz since they get exactly the same amount of FAE.


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Some Dude]
    #25339612 - 07/21/18 09:47 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

we need moar pics mateah :hehehe: death to the sgfc!


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Some Dude]
    #25339627 - 07/21/18 09:59 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I like mine. I use mine to fruit just about anything in.I know - stupid newbie- but it work's for me- My dub tub's sucked as dub tubs- took the top off put them into "SGFC" saved there life man.Help's me rehydrate my coir tubs and provide FAE at the same time-I  like them-I feel it has helped me out lot's.
Then again I don't know much and just been using what is suggested to me from other's that know better.


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: rockpup] * 3
    #25339669 - 07/21/18 10:32 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Also worth noting is that the Humidity Chamber works equally well in a grow area with 0%RH, during winter months my whole apartment was bone dry when I fruited all those cakes with no verm layer and no misting. Try to do that with a SGFC and youll see the blue cakes all day if you're not guarding the cakes with a spray bottle :shrug:

This setup is superior to the SGFC design on so many levels it's ridiculous.

As I said countless times before, SGFC can produce nice cakes if the conditions are right and if the grower isn't a total noob. But then again experienced growers don't suddenly get the idea to build a SGFC to fruit BRF cakes in, and those that suffer the inferior design of the SGFC are the very noobs I'm trying to protect. Moar shrooms for the people! :yesnod:


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So, why bother saying "why bother"? it is what it is. The purpose is to experiment with procedures that venture outside the norm, is it necessary for growing mushrooms? Big nope. Is it fucking cool to think and experiment? Resounding yes.


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: JHOVA] * 1
    #25339694 - 07/21/18 10:46 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

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we need moar pics mateah :hehehe: death to the sgfc!



Totally agree! This sample is small but nevertheless speaks for itself. I encourage others to see the simllplicity for themselves in as harsh environments as 0%RH, it works, my cakes were not made out of magic, on the contrary they were sub quality compared to standard BRF cakes used for fruiting as cakes.

These cakes were made for slurry originally and are about 20-30% smaller than 1/2 pint cakes and also had weird shapes and no verm layer.

I'm looking forward to see perfectly prepped BRF cakes with verm layer fruited inside these chambers in the future from other growers!


I was planning on using wet towel tubs and also tubs with a cm of plain water on the bottom just to see how the Humidity would hold, I still have plans for this if I find the time and effort.


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: Some Dude]
    #25339763 - 07/21/18 11:52 PM (2 years, 8 months ago)

My first grow, I used a sgfc.  I swear that thing required more babysitting with a spray bottle and dialing in than anything I've used since.  Now, even in the driest months of the year my tubs and shoeboxes require very little attention once spawned.  I will say the pain in the ass SGFC was what pushed me to move onto bulk.  Never again SGFC!


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    #25339817 - 07/22/18 12:43 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

I agree. SGFCs fuckin suck and always have. Good writeup :cool:


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Re: Humidity Chamber Tek for fruiting BRF cakes [Re: NumeroEno] * 5
    #25340154 - 07/22/18 10:12 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

Idk i used a sgfc to start and it worked great. I actually overmisted my cakes despite a dry ass house. And that was back in my never home party days

Here's my only old sgfc pics but I managed to over do misting and that was with a morning and night mist schedule only


My only dislike was perlite coming out of the bottom holes but a boot mat fixed that problem

By all means a sgfc isn't my favorite but it takes like 0 skill IMO its foolproof. Maybe i sound rude by if your cake is healthy I don't see how its possible to fuck it up sgfc or not. Cakes are so easy they fruit on a table with a baggie.


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