BlasphemousNoob said:

Republicans and Democrats fall over each other trying to be the first in line to get on their knees for big corporations. A company like Amazon that is valued at almost $1 trillion does not need a mere $4 or 5 billion in tax breaks. In fact, they should be taxed more not less.

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Well said. 

BlasphemousNoob said:

Cortez couldn't even answer a simple question on how she expects the US government to pay for the Medicare for all plan she supports except to say we will "just pay for it" since she says it's cheaper than what we have now (spoiler: it's not).

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1.  Bernie figured out one way to pay for it:  impose a 2.2% income tax on everyone.  That actually saves the bottom 95% of the country money on their health insurance.  And if the bottom 95% can afford it, the top 5% certainly can afford a 2.2% tax.  It's not even a progressive tax.
2.  It would be a LOT cheaper per person.  We'd no longer have to pay for the uninsured, we'd no longer have to pay for profit private health insurance companies, and we'd get discounts due to significant negotiating power.

Please tell us why you think it would cost more.  That makes no sense to me. 

BlasphemousNoob said:

I see Cortez as another Bernie Sanders. She'll be in Congress 30+ years and won't change a thing, but she will say the right things election time to get reelected.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

1.  Bernie figured out one way to pay for it:  impose a 2.2% income tax on everyone.  That actually saves the bottom 95% of the country money on their health insurance.  And if the bottom 95% can afford it, the top 5% certainly can afford a 2.2% tax.  It's not even a progressive tax.
2.  It would be a LOT cheaper per person.  We'd no longer have to pay for the uninsured, we'd no longer have to pay for profit private health insurance companies, and we'd get discounts due to significant negotiating power.

Please tell us why you think it would cost more.  That makes no sense to me. 

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Almost half of Americans don't pay income tax because they either don't make enough or don't make anything at all. If half the country isn't paying this 2.2% income tax increase

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BlasphemousNoob said:

...the millionaires/billionaires, they will still be able to hire the best accountants and get all their tax breaks. It will be workers like me who make above the poverty line, and the tax hike will be far greater than the 2.2% Sanders proposed since I'd be making up for everyone not paying.

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BlasphemousNoob said:

The only way we could make it work is if everyone paid 2.2% regardless of income and possibly raising sales tax to make up for those who make nothing. The money has to come from somewhere, but you can't expect the top 50% of earners to pay 100% of the cost.

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BlasphemousNoob said:

...the millionaires/billionaires, they will still be able to hire the best accountants and get all their tax breaks. It will be workers like me who make above the poverty line, and the tax hike will be far greater than the 2.2% Sanders proposed since I'd be making up for everyone not paying.

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BlasphemousNoob said:

The only way we could make it work is if everyone paid 2.2% regardless of income and possibly raising sales tax to make up for those who make nothing. The money has to come from somewhere, but you can't expect the top 50% of earners to pay 100% of the cost.

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VroomerMcZoomers said:

BlasphemousNoob said:

Almost half of Americans don't pay income tax because they either don't make enough or don't make anything at all. If half the country isn't paying this 2.2% income tax increase

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Bernie Sanders knew that a 2.2% tax on 0 is 0.  He didn't think that a flat income tax was going to collect money from people who have no income.

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Exactly. 

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  People making only $14,000/year would pay about $26 bucks a month for excellent coverage.  It's a bargain.

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koods said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Bernie figured out one way to pay for it:  impose a 2.2% income tax on everyone.

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On taxable income or actual income?

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

BlasphemousNoob said:

Cortez couldn't even answer a simple question on how she expects the US government to pay for the Medicare for all plan she supports except to say we will "just pay for it" since she says it's cheaper than what we have now (spoiler: it's not).

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1.  Bernie figured out one way to pay for it:  impose a 2.2% income tax on everyone.  That actually saves the bottom 95% of the country money on their health insurance.  And if the bottom 95% can afford it, the top 5% certainly can afford a 2.2% tax.  It's not even a progressive tax.
2.  It would be a LOT cheaper per person.  We'd no longer have to pay for the uninsured, we'd no longer have to pay for profit private health insurance companies, and we'd get discounts due to significant negotiating power.

Please tell us why you think it would cost more.  That makes no sense to me. 

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koods said:

Dental isn’t covered in American health plans. It is a separate deal.
Covering the rest of the population probably costs less than double what it currently costs. 65+ people use a lot of medical resources.

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There is no personal exemption anymore. That was phased out in Trumps tax bill.

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koods said:

So a payroll tax similar to the way FICA works

Except payroll taxes don’t apply to other kinds of income... so maybe not

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