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Re: Evil Capitalists vs. Enlightened Statists [Re: Innvertigo]
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"i'm repeating myself (and you've yet to answer it) Who determines what I and Others need? (this applies to your entire post mind you)"

Are you not able to simply infer from what i have said what my standpoint on this is? No, because you arent paying attention. Work it out for yourself.

"why not encourage the have nots to become haves?"

I believe this wouldnt work, unless the spectrum of wealth narrows. Please explain in more than 20 words how you could see this working within the framework of the current system. i.e lets accumulate as much as i can, more than i need cos it makes me feel good until my prozac wears out.

"first of all noone has limitless wealth...even bill gates....why shouldn't we have this wealth? if it's earned honestly and through hard work?"

And what are you going to do with it? sit there counting it or employ people to count it for you? This is the key point - pursuit of wealth is your priority, thats fine. I myself hope to avoid being poor and make a good living but its not my priority in life, it probabaly would only just scrape into the top 10.

"no i don't. I just think the environmental wackos are using scare tactics to achieve their goal: we all live it huts eating berrys and nuts."

I agree it is completely crazed to go backwards and i have had this arguement with hardcore environmentalists. I believe they are wrong. But carrying on using the dirty technology that we currently use is not right either. The clean technology is already here. Only the will and the investment are lacking.

****you probabaly think fossil fuels are endless but they are not. sorry thats the long and short of it.****
"you and alex have said this. I want you to tell me WHERE i said this!!!! quite making up arguments when their not there"

It may be enlightening for you to look up the word 'probabaly' in the dictionary at this point.

****You are confusing wants and desires with needs. ****
so you'll be the judge on what people need?

Please outline a realistic scenario where anyone would "need" more than 1 million a year to live. I gotta see this!


"libbies, statists, socialist (or pick which one you feel you fit in) are all for making those that are successfull lose individual rights to make those that either choose to be unsuccessful, those that are generally poor, and others feel good about themselfs by penalizing the evil greedy people."

You seem insecure and self centered to me.


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Re: Evil Capitalists vs. Enlightened Statists [Re: GazzBut]
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****Are you not able to simply infer from what i have said what my standpoint on this is? ****

actually no.  All you've said is that noone should make more then 1 million pounds.

****I believe this wouldnt work, unless the spectrum of wealth narrows. ****

libbies like to have people rely on their weaknesses...people like myself have people to rely on their strengths.  A good example would be if a homeless person shows up a libbie will buy him/her a brand new shopping cart, i would show them how they can find a job so they won't need the shopping cart.

****lets accumulate as much as i can, more than i need cos it makes me feel good until my prozac wears out.*****

man you sound jealous..

****But carrying on using the dirty technology that we currently use is not right either. The clean technology is already here. Only the will and the investment are lacking.****

who says that i don't want clean technology?  I'm all for it...

****And what are you going to do with it? *****

whatever I (I being the important word her) want to do with it. (lets cut this short from this point. I have the right to make what I want to make and do what I want to do with the money that I made through MY expertise and work done (within the law)) If you can't grasp this statement the rest of your statements will be moot ie: individual rights, the reason we left Britain.

****pursuit of wealth is your priority, thats fine.****

go back and actually read what i said.  Actually my priority is pretty humble for what i have.  Just as i said priorities are different per person.

***It may be enlightening for you to look up the word 'probabaly' in the dictionary at this point****

oh no not my grammar :shocked:...yet again you fail to answer the question...silly libbie

****Please outline a realistic scenario where anyone would "need" more than 1 million a year to live. ****

se my answer concerning individual rights...

****You seem insecure and self centered to me.****

I'm very secure and kind of self centered (everyone on earth is selfish to one point or another)...or are limey's immune to that?


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Re: Evil Capitalists vs. Enlightened Statists [Re: Innvertigo]
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Cheers for all the pointless banter but Im off to see the Aussie Pink Floyd at the Royal Albert Hall tonite followed by dancing all nite at the best Jungle do on the plantet(imho) all the while propelled by a mixture of my favorite substances.

So at this juncture on a friday afternoon, I couldnt care if George Bush wants to make us all texans and bomb paris for fun.

Take it easy invert.

PEACE



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Re: Evil Capitalists vs. Enlightened Statists [Re: GazzBut]
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****Cheers for all the pointless banter****

libbie speak for..."i don't want to answer your question because i base my beliefs on the fact that noone has individual rights"

****but Im off to see the Aussie Pink Floyd at the Royal Albert Hall tonite followed by dancing all nite at the best Jungle do on the plantet(imho) all the while propelled by a mixture of my favorite substances.****

and you felt the need to tell me this why?

****So at this juncture on a friday afternoon, I couldnt care if George Bush wants to make us all texans and bomb paris for fun. ****

Paris?..hmmmm now that's an idea

****Take it easy invert.****

have fun....


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