pineninja said:

If guns save lives America must be one of the safest places on earth.....

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koods said:

Guns can save lives. They take more.

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xbloodwhipx said:

I'm just curious if you would mind answering a hypothetical question?

So, obviously, you don't own a gun. I'm just wondering how you would react to an armed home intruder who (for whatever reason) intended to harm you, or your family?

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xbloodwhipx said:

I'm just curious if you would mind answering a hypothetical question?

So, obviously, you don't own a gun. I'm just wondering how you would react to an armed home intruder who (for whatever reason) intended to harm you, or your family?

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Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million, in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.

Another study estimates there are 1,029,615 DGUs per year “for self-protection or for the protection of property at home, work, or elsewhere” excluding “military service, police work, or work as a security guard,” (within the range of the National Academies’ paper), yielding an estimate of 162,000 cases per year where someone “almost certainly would have been killed” if they “had not used a gun for protection.”

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koods said:

xbloodwhipx said:

I'm just curious if you would mind answering a hypothetical question?

So, obviously, you don't own a gun. I'm just wondering how you would react to an armed home intruder who (for whatever reason) intended to harm you, or your family?

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Idk it's such a remote possibility that whatever risk it presents, it is not outweighed by the added daily risk of having a gun in your home.

Your question belies your own sense of impotence without a firearm.

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pineninja said:

xbloodwhipx said:

I'm just curious if you would mind answering a hypothetical question?

So, obviously, you don't own a gun. I'm just wondering how you would react to an armed home intruder who (for whatever reason) intended to harm you, or your family?

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Ive got one for you.

If you were in a position of power and knew that your decisions could make armed home invasion more or less likely what would you do.

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koods said:

xbloodwhipx said:

I'm just curious if you would mind answering a hypothetical question?

So, obviously, you don't own a gun. I'm just wondering how you would react to an armed home intruder who (for whatever reason) intended to harm you, or your family?

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Idk it's such a remote possibility that whatever risk it presents, it is not outweighed by the added daily risk of having a gun in your home.

Your question belies your own sense of impotence without a firearm.

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My dick works fine without a firearm

Seriously_trippin said:

koods said:

xbloodwhipx said:

I'm just curious if you would mind answering a hypothetical question?

So, obviously, you don't own a gun. I'm just wondering how you would react to an armed home intruder who (for whatever reason) intended to harm you, or your family?

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Idk it's such a remote possibility that whatever risk it presents, it is not outweighed by the added daily risk of having a gun in your home.

Your question belies your own sense of impotence without a firearm.

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So you obviously live somewhere more fortunate then say Detroit or L.A. home invasions happen all the fucking time it’s not remote for a lot of people

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koods said:

Seriously_trippin said:

koods said:

xbloodwhipx said:

I'm just curious if you would mind answering a hypothetical question?

So, obviously, you don't own a gun. I'm just wondering how you would react to an armed home intruder who (for whatever reason) intended to harm you, or your family?

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Idk it's such a remote possibility that whatever risk it presents, it is not outweighed by the added daily risk of having a gun in your home.

Your question belies your own sense of impotence without a firearm.

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So you obviously live somewhere more fortunate then say Detroit or L.A. home invasions happen all the fucking time it’s not remote for a lot of people

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Home invasions happen all the time the same way someone wins the lottery all the time. They happen, but your chances of being a victim are tiny. Infinitesimally tiny.

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They happen more when the thugs know there's no risk.  Just take it up the ass is your solution.

Kryptos said:

xbloodwhipx said:

More then likely, they wouldn't be there to kill me. They would break in to steal some shit, and if armed shoot me as a reaction. Armed intruders exist, so I'm assuming all intruders are armed and out to kill me, specifically those who break in when someone is obviously home. But, as I said before, I wouldn't confront them. Rather, lock my bedroom door and hope they stay out. Thats always been my plan if I ever have to deal with an intruder. If they break my bedroom door down, well a locked bedroom door at night is a pretty big sign someone is in said bedroom, correct? In that situation why wouldn't I shoot them? Shit happens and crazy, irrational people exist. How do I know an intruders intentions?

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See, I don't understand this logic. And ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Make your house look like a bad place to break in. I've lived in all sorts of neighborhoods, but nobody has ever broken into my place, or my car, even though I rarely lock either.

I've had people break into the neighbors while I was home.

Hide your valuables, or at least make them not visible from the windows. I like to throw a bunch of papers around my car, not just because it's all usually relevant to my research, but because criminals are people too, and nobody likes digging through trash to find treasure.

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sweeper54 said:

I only read the 1 page but it sounds like a lot of fuck'n bull shit

Quote:

Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million, in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.

Another study estimates there are 1,029,615 DGUs per year “for self-protection or for the protection of property at home, work, or elsewhere” excluding “military service, police work, or work as a security guard,” (within the range of the National Academies’ paper), yielding an estimate of 162,000 cases per year where someone “almost certainly would have been killed” if they “had not used a gun for protection.”

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Where are the peer reviewed studies on this?

3 fucking million DGU/year?

HORSE SHIT

That's 8219.18/day and 164.38 in each state/day and I heard of one in MD a few days ago which would have been excluded in the second study

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koods said:

Your CCTV camera won't give you the thrill of shooting a burglar

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How terrible. 

xbloodwhipx said:

Kryptos said:

Show me where I agreed with you. Or sit and laugh in your ivory tower, if you're worried that showing me where I agreed with you might lead to me clarifying what you misread.

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Kryptos said:

xbloodwhipx said:

And, guns will always fucking exist, its a fact of life. They need to remain legal because criminals who intend to shoot you will always own a gun, and its nice to have a way to legally defend yourself.

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Making drugs illegal makes them go away, making gays illegal makes them go away, making immigrants illegal makes them go away, but making guns illegal...doesn't? Republican logic!

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My point was that making guns illegal will not make them go away. Therefore they should stay legal so that people who are not criminals can legally get them.

The point at which you agreed with me was when you stated making guns illegal...doesn't? Obviously, sarcasm was implied from your prior two comments about how making drugs and gays illegal makes them go away, as if thats somehow my thinking. So, you agreed with me in saying making guns illegal will not make them go away, even if you didn't intend to. If you can't see where you agreed with me, you are really fucking dense.

If thats not what you were trying to say, you are really bad at wording comments and probably shouldn't try sarcasm anymore because its not for you.

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