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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: deezdelta]
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deezdelta said:
From my own personal experience this mental freedom has brought a joy for life that is immutable and very powerful. I spent a lot of my life depressed and I always felt like there was something missing. Once I was able to let go of what I was told life was, I instantly became overwhelmed with the pure joy of simply being a human on earth. This is the only way I can explain what happened. I was depressed and I didn't even know what depression was. Now I haven't been depressed for over six years. Not one single day. My life isn't missing a thing. I'm fully content. So as a fully content man, I go about living. Thats all.


Nah I don't think you're as content as you'd have us believe.  You would never get upset at another poster for any reason no matter what they said if you were content. Not if everyone "misunderstood" you or whatever.  No I don't read contentment in your posts here.  Sorry.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: deezdelta]
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deezdelta said:
From my own personal experience this mental freedom has brought a joy for life that is immutable and very powerful. I spent a lot of my life depressed and I always felt like there was something missing. Once I was able to let go of what I was told life was, I instantly became overwhelmed with the pure joy of simply being a human on earth. This is the only way I can explain what happened. I was depressed and I didn't even know what depression was. Now I haven't been depressed for over six years. Not one single day. My life isn't missing a thing. I'm fully content. So as a fully content man, I go about living. Thats all.


That's the saddest thing I have ever read. But then again, it can all be a lie.


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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: Thanatos10]
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Thanatos10 said:
deezdelta said:
Icelander said:
You mean he's real because he agrees with you and anyone who doesn't isn't real? 

OMG , we are all real but have differing beliefs.

Once again you are talking emotional nonsense imo. He's every bit as real  as you are.


No. He's "real" because he has possession of his own mind and he is able to listen and reason. He knows he doesn't know everything and he loves discovery.

I am a human being. My being is primarily based on human "emotional nonsense". Also the term "emotional non-sense" is fallacious and contradictory. Yes, I embrace emotion. I am not an animal. I am a man and within the mind of man there exists emotion. Are you actively denying that emotions are essential to a human experience?


I can. Emotions aren't exclusive to humans, but humans are the ones who are ruled and place too much importance on them. There is no difference between us and animals really at the end of the day.

Also emotions are a product of the brain.


Yes! We are ruled by our emotions! Agreed. As far as your certainty on how the human mind functions I do not share this certainty. There are just so many other possibilities that I have yet to consider.


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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: Thanatos10]
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Thanatos10 said:
Jokeshopbeard said:
Jokeshopbeard said:
Also doesn't prove the existence of love either way.


Exactly, like I was just saying. But, by the same token, can you disprove it?


Thing is, I don't have to.


Then I do not have to prove the existence of love. By your account, I must take what you say without proof. Therefore you must also do the same for me.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: Thanatos10] * 1
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Thanatos10 said:
That's the saddest thing I have ever read. But then again, it can all be a lie.


That's the saddest thing I have ever read. But then again, it can all be a lie.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: deezdelta]
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deezdelta said:
Thanatos10 said:
deezdelta said:
Icelander said:
You mean he's real because he agrees with you and anyone who doesn't isn't real? 

OMG , we are all real but have differing beliefs.

Once again you are talking emotional nonsense imo. He's every bit as real  as you are.


No. He's "real" because he has possession of his own mind and he is able to listen and reason. He knows he doesn't know everything and he loves discovery.

I am a human being. My being is primarily based on human "emotional nonsense". Also the term "emotional non-sense" is fallacious and contradictory. Yes, I embrace emotion. I am not an animal. I am a man and within the mind of man there exists emotion. Are you actively denying that emotions are essential to a human experience?


I can. Emotions aren't exclusive to humans, but humans are the ones who are ruled and place too much importance on them. There is no difference between us and animals really at the end of the day.

Also emotions are a product of the brain.


Yes! We are ruled by our emotions! Agreed. As far as your certainty on how the human mind functions I do not share this certainty. There are just so many other possibilities that I have yet to consider.


You can consider all you want, it doesnt change fact.


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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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mystical experiences that make me feel like something is inside me that is way bigger than this tiny collection of atoms which make up my body and the electrical functions in my brain.

We all get to feel whatever we like. Many people in asylums feel things that you and I might just think needs treatment.

But let's not forget the forum we are in.  You're a mod now  and I assume you've been memorizing the forum rules.  Debate oriented, evidence based.  So opinions are not evidence. You can have them but they don't prove anything you say.  And to say "well you can't prove it isn't true" goes against everything this forum is about imo.  Diploid would surely have agreed..


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: Thanatos10]
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deezdelta said:
You can consider all you want, it doesnt change fact.


Which fact?

*puts hand over eyebrow, looking out at distant thread*

I see none here sir!!


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: Icelander] * 1
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Icelander said:
deezdelta said:
From my own personal experience this mental freedom has brought a joy for life that is immutable and very powerful. I spent a lot of my life depressed and I always felt like there was something missing. Once I was able to let go of what I was told life was, I instantly became overwhelmed with the pure joy of simply being a human on earth. This is the only way I can explain what happened. I was depressed and I didn't even know what depression was. Now I haven't been depressed for over six years. Not one single day. My life isn't missing a thing. I'm fully content. So as a fully content man, I go about living. Thats all.


Nah I don't think you're as content as you'd have us believe.  You would never get upset at another poster for any reason no matter what they said if you were content. Not if everyone "misunderstood" you or whatever.  No I don't read contentment in your posts here.  Sorry.


If I know I'm content then that's good enough for me. I think that what your perceiving as "upset" in this case is merely a temporary frustration not related to my overall contentment.

I never said I don't get sad or angry. I just said I'm not depressed.


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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: Icelander] * 1
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Icelander said:
I assume you've been memorizing the forum rules.


Sorry to say it but I haven't. I don't do rules (like deezdelta, I feel it is my right as a "mental freedom"). I do love, kindness, and compassion, as much as is possible given my human frailties.

Bad mod I suppose!


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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You know in the good old days Mods used to lock threads that got way off track from the OP and really weren't what the forum was about. I'd say this qualifies.  Put an end to suffering. :lol:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

Edited by Icelander (02/28/16 07:44 PM)

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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: deezdelta]
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deezdelta said:
Icelander said:
deezdelta said:
From my own personal experience this mental freedom has brought a joy for life that is immutable and very powerful. I spent a lot of my life depressed and I always felt like there was something missing. Once I was able to let go of what I was told life was, I instantly became overwhelmed with the pure joy of simply being a human on earth. This is the only way I can explain what happened. I was depressed and I didn't even know what depression was. Now I haven't been depressed for over six years. Not one single day. My life isn't missing a thing. I'm fully content. So as a fully content man, I go about living. Thats all.


Nah I don't think you're as content as you'd have us believe.  You would never get upset at another poster for any reason no matter what they said if you were content. Not if everyone "misunderstood" you or whatever.  No I don't read contentment in your posts here.  Sorry.


If I know I'm content then that's good enough for me. I think that what your perceiving as "upset" in this case is merely a temporary frustration not related to my overall contentment.

I never said I don't get sad or angry. I just said I'm not depressed.


Sounds more like a self described genius who doesn't like it when people don't acknowledge their brilliance.


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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Jokeshopbeard said:
Thanatos10  said:
You can consider all you want, it doesnt change fact.


Which fact?

*puts hand over eyebrow, looking out at distant thread*

I see none here sir!!


Yea. What FACT. Here Thanatos10, let me argue like you again to show you.

You Thanatos10 can consider all YOU want, but it doesnt change fact.


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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: Icelander]
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Ok hands up who's suffering due to this thread! More than 5 hands go up and I'll lock it!! That seems fair doesn't it? I certainly have no desire to cause suffering to any living creature.

Personally, I'm highly enjoying this debate. My ass wouldn't be hurting, my bladder wouldn't so badly need emptying, and I wouldn't be hitting refresh so damn frequently if I weren't!!!


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: deezdelta]
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Don't worry Deezdelta. I'm one to agree with you. 

I see a lot of Sloth and Pride in this thread. Yall need Jesus

Sloth is one of the seven deadly sins in Christian moral tradition, particularly within Catholicism, referring to laziness.

Sloth is defined as spiritual or emotional apathy, and being physically and emotionally inactive.

Although, as defined above, sloth is more akin to apathy and inactivity, many English speakers narrow it to mean simple laziness,(Proverbs 10:4, Proverbs 12:27, Proverbs 15:19, Matthew 25:25-30) about which the Bible makes many comments. (Never be lazy, but work hard and serve the Lord enthusiastically. Romans 12:11; Lazy people consider themselves smarter than seven wise counselors. Proverbs 26:16; Lazy people irritate their employers, like vinegar to the teeth or smoke in the eyes. Proverbs 10:26)

Pride (Latin, superbia), or hubris (Greek), is considered, on almost every list, the original and most serious of the seven deadly sins: the source of the others. It is identified as believing that one is essentially better than others, failing to acknowledge the accomplishments of others, and excessive admiration of the personal self (especially holding self out of proper position toward God); it also includes vainglory (Latin, vanagloria) which is unjustified boasting. Dante's definition of pride was "love of self perverted to hatred and contempt for one's neighbour". In Jacob Bidermann's medieval miracle play, Cenodoxus, pride is the deadliest of all the sins and leads directly to the damnation of the titulary famed Parisian doctor. In perhaps the best-known example, the story of Lucifer, pride (his desire to compete with God) was what caused his fall from Heaven, and his resultant transformation into Satan. In Dante's Divine Comedy, the penitents are burdened with stone slabs on their necks which force them to keep their heads bowed.

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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: deezdelta]
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deezdelta said:
Icelander said:
deezdelta said:
From my own personal experience this mental freedom has brought a joy for life that is immutable and very powerful. I spent a lot of my life depressed and I always felt like there was something missing. Once I was able to let go of what I was told life was, I instantly became overwhelmed with the pure joy of simply being a human on earth. This is the only way I can explain what happened. I was depressed and I didn't even know what depression was. Now I haven't been depressed for over six years. Not one single day. My life isn't missing a thing. I'm fully content. So as a fully content man, I go about living. Thats all.


Nah I don't think you're as content as you'd have us believe.  You would never get upset at another poster for any reason no matter what they said if you were content. Not if everyone "misunderstood" you or whatever.  No I don't read contentment in your posts here.  Sorry.


If I know I'm content then that's good enough for me. I think that what your perceiving as "upset" in this case is merely a temporary frustration not related to my overall contentment.

I never said I don't get sad or angry. I just said I'm not depressed.



You said you were content.  You're not imo. Not from what I've been seeing here. But you don't seem depressed either.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: Thanatos10] * 1
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Thanatos10 said:
Sounds more like a self described genius who doesn't like it when people don't acknowledge their brilliance.


Thanatos10. Let me go on recored stating I am not a genius and I'm no more capable of learning than anyone else. I have no answers and I really don't know a whole lot. I am not brilliant and I have never done anything great. I'm just a dude just like you except I love everything and you don't. So I love you and I also appreciate your hate for me. I just love to argue.


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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: Leviticus969]
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I see a lot of Sloth and Pride in this thread. Yall need Jesus


OMG which forum is this again?:nicesmile:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
I see a lot of Sloth and Pride in this thread. Yall need Jesus


OMG which forum is this again?


Man that was hilariously timed. I've just spent 30 seconds in hysterics due to that. Actually, make that 60.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: deezdelta]
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deezdelta said:
Thanatos10 said:
Sounds more like a self described genius who doesn't like it when people don't acknowledge their brilliance.


Thanatos10. Let me go on recored stating I am not a genius and I'm no more capable of learning than anyone else. I have no answers and I really don't know a whole lot. I am not brilliant and I have never done anything great. I'm just a dude just like you except I love everything and you don't. So I love you and I also appreciate your hate for me. I just love to argue.


Then it's not love.


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