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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: Thanatos10]
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Thanatos10 said:
Short sighted, very short sighted. You aren't looking back far enough if that's your statement. At our very base we are nothing but a collection of atoms. We die, our body breaks down, and to atoms we go. That's dust.

Also I can pretty much just claim you are wrong because little of what you write has any facts to back it up. If you think these forums are for gaining insight, you might be overestimating them a bit. It's not my fault that you want to deny how insignificant we all are. It's something that takes time to swallow.



Enlighten me on your methods of "looking back". Unfortunately I was not born with this ability to see back to a time when man arose from dust. Sounds cool though.

As far as my claims having little "fact" to them I've got two things to say. First off Im a philosopher and a mathematician. When I'm philosophizing, I don't rely on axiomatic data. Philosophy comes from my own idea based on rational conclusion. Second, the last post you claimed wrong was nothing but "fact" it's just pure math! Do you know the geometric properties of the column space of a matrix with a zero determinate? Do you know anything about number theory or gematria? No you don't because we already went through this in my magnetism lesson for you.

My last post shows with data provided by NASA as "fact" to mathematically prove near perfect symmetry in NASA's data. Look it pif you want. The moon is exactly 1/400 the size of the sun and is exactly 1/400 the distance from earth as the sun. Also, the circumferences 8.649e^5 is admittedly probably not 100% accurate but its NASA's finding's, not mine. Also if you investigate further in number theory you will find that these numbers; 864, 432, 216, 108 are extremely badass numbers. Heres just one cool thing about them. There are 5280 feet in a mile and there are 60, six degree intervals in one cycle of 360 degrees. 6degrees = 1 second. Now take miles in feet and divide by the amount of 6 degree interval per cycle to get 88. Now divide all 4 numbers by 88 individually. 108/88 is a very, very special result but you'd have no idea of that so I won't bother.


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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: deezdelta]
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Nothing is special, people just make it appear so.

From dust I'm referring to the Big Bang and the resulting formations after it. At the base level we are nothing more than dust


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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: Thanatos10]
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Thanatos10 said:
Hate to break it to you, but that's still not feeling the speed of light. It bombards us every day but we still can't feel it. You feel the intensity, but not the speed. Feeling is a matter of emotion. Sensory perception is another matter entirely. I can hear something and nothing feel anything



Hate to break it to you but intensity:



Notice the velocity. This is your last physics lesson.

Also heres the more formal definition,



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Edited by deezdelta (02/28/16 03:34 PM)

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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: deezdelta]
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deezdelta said:
See. Here it is again. "It is an UNDENIABLE FACT that we were were born from dust".
Really?? Is it?? No, it's not. Personally I was born from my mothers body. I don't know how it is where your from but for me this is a very deniable fact.



Your can feel the thermal energy that light carries but not the speed it's travelling at.

You need some of this man in your life if you want to learn how our fundamental particles were formed from the dust of exploding stars.


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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: sudly]
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sudly said:
deezdelta said:
See. Here it is again. "It is an UNDENIABLE FACT that we were were born from dust".
Really?? Is it?? No, it's not. Personally I was born from my mothers body. I don't know how it is where your from but for me this is a very deniable fact.



Your can feel the thermal energy that light carries but not the speed it's travelling at.

You need some of this man in your life if you want to learn how our fundamental particles were formed from the dust of exploding stars.




First off, if your getting physics lessons from Neal deGrasse Tyson, this will be impossible. The guy is a media whore ass clown.

Let me ask you sudly. What is "Thermal Energy"?


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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: deezdelta]
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Also, what are the properties of "Energy" in general. Here are some starters,

Thermal Energy = Formula: 0


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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: deezdelta]
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Quote:
"Thermal energy is the energy that comes from heat. This heat is generated by the movement of tiny particles within an object. The faster these particles move, the more heat is generated



You can feel the heat energy of moving photons/light.

It's a 12 part series on cosmology and it's very informative.


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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: sudly]
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sudly said:
Quote:
"Thermal energy is the energy that comes from heat. This heat is generated by the movement of tiny particles within an object. The faster these particles move, the more heat is generated



You can feel the heat energy of moving photons/light.

It's a 12 part series on cosmology and it's very informative.



That show is a brainwashing/conditioning platform. Here, I got tired of doing LaTex in here so I just wrote it down. Kinda sloppy and I understand that it may look like gibberish but its what physicists use and it shows that Heat does contain the velocity of light. It's all about transfers of momentum. Also, I did this from the perspective of one particle with 3 degrees of freedom. Here I'll make a pic for that too. Ok here.

Here's how heat changes over time. Oh yea, "Thermal Energy" is "Heat"


Heres a brief description of how degrees of freedom work.


Finally, Heres the total energy of a system.


Trust me sud's. You can "Feel" the velocity the same way you feel the velocity of a bus hitting you.


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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: deezdelta]
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deezdelta said:
sudly said:
Quote:
"Thermal energy is the energy that comes from heat. This heat is generated by the movement of tiny particles within an object. The faster these particles move, the more heat is generated



You can feel the heat energy of moving photons/light.

It's a 12 part series on cosmology and it's very informative.



That show is a brainwashing/conditioning platform. Here, I got tired of doing LaTex in here so I just wrote it down. Kinda sloppy and I understand that it may look like gibberish but its what physicists use and it shows that Heat does contain the velocity of light. It's all about transfers of momentum. Also, I did this from the perspective of one particle with 3 degrees of freedom. Here I'll make a pic for that too. Ok here.

Here's how heat changes over time. Oh yea, "Thermal Energy" is "Heat"


Heres a brief description of how degrees of freedom work.


Finally, Heres the total energy of a system.


Trust me sud's. You can "Feel" the velocity the same way you feel the velocity of a bus hitting you.



You're feeling the force, not the velocity. For someone who has "taken high level physics classes" you don't see to know very much.

In short, you can't feel speed.


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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: Lakefingers]
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sudly said:
No points for you, suffering is basically an electrical impulse that travels along your nerves as you encounter environmental stimuli. 



So as an effort to save this derailed freight train lets go back to you definition on the dynamics of suffering. I agree that electrical impulse does cause feelings of suffering in us. I think theres a lot more to it but this is ok for now.

So the question is, "How do you deal with YOUR suffering?".

Well, after careful examination and a lot of questioning I have arrived back at my initial conclusion! Lots and lots of wonderful drugs are the answer!!

Drugs manipulate these impulse's and with just the right amount of just the right combination of drugs, we can overcome all suffering!! Hooray!! Drugs ARE good!!


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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Your fist 4 answers are exactly what i do to. If my depression gets to bad i have to go on wellbutrin for a while.

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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: Thanatos10]
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Thanatos10 said:
You're feeling the force, not the velocity. For someone who has "taken high level physics classes" you don't see to know very much.

In short, you can't feel speed.



Oh my god dude... now I just feel like someones messing with me. Are you for real??

First off there is no mention of an acceleration here. For a guy that claims so much shit you don't really know anything. If I did mention a force, we'd still be feeling a velocity!! The is no force without velocity!!

Force = F = MA. Thats Mass times ACCELERATION!! Acceleration is the RATE OF CHANGE in VELOCITY W.R.T TIME. Or just dv/dt. If your "feeling" a force, your "feeling" a change in the velocity of something with mass.

The velocity part is called MOMENTUM. Now go read about the conservation of momentum.


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Edited by deezdelta (02/28/16 04:38 PM)

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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: Thanatos10]
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Thanatos10. I'd suggest you re-evaluate every single thing that you think you know. It seems to me like you have the wrong idea on practically everything. I don't know you so I couldn't say for sure but based on everything you post, Your Wrong. About all of it. Now go do some reflecting. This is a forum for rational adults.


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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: Thanatos10]
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I see from your little emotion tag on your avatar that you constantly lonely. I'll tell you from my delusional experience that once you can truly confront and evaluate who you really are, you will learn to love yourself and when that happens you no longer rely on others to alleviate your suffering in loneliness. Once you become your own best freind you'll never be lonely again.


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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: Lakefingers]
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Lakefingers said:
CosmicJoke said:
Fairly sure Nietzsche suffered extreme chronic pain and poor health through his adult life..... "He who has a why to live for can bear with almost any how."  For Nietzsche, I'm sure it he created his own purposes to keep on truckin'.



That's right. He had dysentery, migraines for weeks on end, daily vomiting, nausea, gastrointestinal problems, severe depressions, eye diseases, temporary blindness and finally a mental breakdown and dementia.

Are there any major philosophers who suffered as much as Nietzsche? To boot, few were as productive as he was. On the other hand, Schopenhauer founded much of his philosophy on suffering, but scholars and biographers often accuse him of having known little of it and instead having used his comfortable fortune to buffer himself from it. That Nietzsche even managed to think, let alone compose groundbreaking works, is meriting in this context. Nietzsche wrote that we must judge a philosopher not by their words but by their lives. Now, whether that speaks in his favor...




But I wonder if was something to do with the combination of such excessive pain and intellectual epiphanies that transcended boundaries of the average man :strokebeard:  Fuck if I know, is just something to think about.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.

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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: Lakefingers]
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Lakefingers said:
CosmicJoke said:
Fairly sure Nietzsche suffered extreme chronic pain and poor health through his adult life..... "He who has a why to live for can bear with almost any how."  For Nietzsche, I'm sure it he created his own purposes to keep on truckin'.



That's right. He had dysentery, migraines for weeks on end, daily vomiting, nausea, gastrointestinal problems, severe depressions, eye diseases, temporary blindness and finally a mental breakdown and dementia.

Are there any major philosophers who suffered as much as Nietzsche? To boot, few were as productive as he was. On the other hand, Schopenhauer founded much of his philosophy on suffering, but scholars and biographers often accuse him of having known little of it and instead having used his comfortable fortune to buffer himself from it. That Nietzsche even managed to think, let alone compose groundbreaking works, is meriting in this context. Nietzsche wrote that we must judge a philosopher not by their words but by their lives. Now, whether that speaks in his favor...



Schopenhauer in his essay on Suicide spoke for the disenfranchised. Few if any who lead pampered lives give a fuck about others in that way. More power to him I say.  I'm glad he didn't suffer much as if suffering is somehow a measure of worth.  What a world humans inhabit mentally and emotionally to glorify suffering rather than compassion. I see it everywhere.  They are all welcome to it. It was made just for them. It is them.  Enjoy.  (I don't mean you Lakefingers)


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

Edited by Icelander (02/28/16 05:17 PM)

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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: CosmicJoke]
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But I wonder if was something to do with the combination of such excessive pain and intellectual epiphanies that transcended boundaries of the average man :strokebeard:  Fuck if I know, is just something to think about.


My guess is he had lots of DA and needed a distraction.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: deezdelta]
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deezdelta said:
Thanatos10. I'd suggest you re-evaluate every single thing that you think you know. It seems to me like you have the wrong idea on practically everything. I don't know you so I couldn't say for sure but based on everything you post, Your Wrong. About all of it. Now go do some reflecting. This is a forum for rational adults.



Frankly I'm with Thanatos 10  on this and you seem totally butthurt no matter what you claim. You've gotten all emo on us.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: Icelander]
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I surely don't glorify pain, I'd prefer a light appear on your forehead telling you to go see the doctor.  The eradication of pain is the most nobel cause on earth imo.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.

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Re: How do you deal with YOUR suffering? [Re: CosmicJoke]
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Doesn't sound like it from what I'm reading.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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