Icelander said:

Here's where I stand at this time in my life. Some suffering carries no meaning other than suffering. As in a child starving to death at 11 months old or being tortured by mad men.

Some suffering can have benefits in personal growth. I've never once disputed that.

Each person gets to decide if suffering is worth it for themselves.  People who presume to speak for others are fos imo.  Due to the fact that all things die it may make little difference in the long run what one chooses to do. Some people don't like this life for imo valid reasons and some do also for valid reasons. Those reasons are  personal and subjective and I have no desire to dispute  with either one on the validity of their preference. It's their life and I cannot know how it feels for them.  And imo anyone who presumes to know what others should do is very likely a ego driven blowhard.   My 2 cents.

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this is it.

Lakefingers said:

There's a god here at the forum who demands eternal praise and its name is Suffering.

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Thanatos10 said:

deff said:

i find 'being in the heart' to be an effective approach to suffering. it seems to me that when the feeling of love is present then suffering is usually greatly diminished. so it takes finding an area, a person, a greater goal, something to direct your love towards. when we take the focus off just ourselves and our own suffering, it doesn't appear as bad

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I would have to strongly disagree with that statement.

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Icelander said:

I think you meant od and not addiction. Opiate addiction is hell. Its a "suicide method" in the sense that the withdrawal will make you contemplate suicide


At my age and physical condition I plan on being on them for the rest of my days so I don't have that big fear/worry which is a big drag on the high.  If I ever can't get them and Kratom won't substitute then I have to leave because I couldn't deal with a worsening of my symptoms and the withdrawal symptoms also. It puts the whole question to rest.

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Lakefingers said:

There's a god here at the forum who demands eternal praise and its name is Suffering.

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From the viewpoint that humans are mechanical organisms it's fair to say that we are essentially sacks of meat filled with little batteries called nerves.

Suffering exists because nerves in your body send or relay electrical signals through electrochemical action potentials or in other words, nerve signals.

The intensity of an individuals physical suffering is governed by the frequency of action potentials between their neural synapses.

The threshold for a neuron to create action potentials differs because of individual pain thresholds in nocicepetor nerves.


Suffering is no god, it is merely the bi product of electrical action potential movements throughout the human nervous system and brain.

Through modern science we know that we are the result of billions of years of DNA evolution and inheritance.

"You're only alive because billions of your ancestors got laid and had kids."

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/biology/actpot.html

sudly said:

Lakefingers said:

There's a god here at the forum who demands eternal praise and its name is Suffering.

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From the viewpoint that humans are mechanical organisms it's fair to say that we are essentially sacks of meat filled with little batteries called nerves.

Suffering exists because nerves in your body send or relay electrical signals through electrochemical action potentials or in other words, nerve signals.

The intensity of an individuals physical suffering is governed by the frequency of action potentials between their neural synapses.

The threshold for a neuron to create action potentials differs because of individual pain thresholds in nocicepetor nerves.


Suffering is no god, it is merely the bi product of electrical action potential movements throughout the human nervous system and brain.

Through modern science we know that we are the result of billions of years of DNA evolution and inheritance.

"You're only alive because billions of your ancestors got laid and had kids."

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Hey finally a response that belongs in this forum.

Icelander said:

Of course there's XTC and that is even better for suffering. My first roll was the best 6 hours of my life.

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deezdelta said:

Thanatos10 said:

deff said:

i find 'being in the heart' to be an effective approach to suffering. it seems to me that when the feeling of love is present then suffering is usually greatly diminished. so it takes finding an area, a person, a greater goal, something to direct your love towards. when we take the focus off just ourselves and our own suffering, it doesn't appear as bad

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I would have to strongly disagree with that statement.

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Is this some "online persona" your doing or is your life really as miserable as you seem to be? Do you need a hug or something? What is it that your looking for Thanatos10?

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Quote:

"You're only alive because billions of your ancestors got laid and had kids."

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