evenbreak said:

The body load. The constant feeling and fear of throwing up... I really hate throwing up, and I was trying to hold it back the whole trip, and I guess that made it worse. I have muscle tensions too on every psychedelic it seems, even weed.

This seems to make lsd a very unpleasant experience for me. You know what I experienced, after the peak? For the next 8 hours, I was experiencing the body load and it was provoking a primal feeling of a fear of sickness and death. I realized my mortality and humanity, and all I wanted was to never do this again and make my body and mind as healthy as possible so I'll feel sick as infrequently as possible. I ended the trip with a newfound appreciation for life and the realization that everyone else is in the same boat as me and we all feel suffering and will one day die and we need to just enjoy the time we have...

so i got a lot out of the trip... but it was so physically unpleasant for most of the duration. During the peak i saw a lot of weird ass shit that felt so vividly real, but that didn't compare to feeling the reality of the achings of my body..

i don't see how i could muster the will to take more acid within the near future... need at least a year i think... i don't know.

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maybe this is a sign that it is not in your highest benefit to do these drugs (at least at this time)

deff said:

evenbreak said:

The body load. The constant feeling and fear of throwing up... I really hate throwing up, and I was trying to hold it back the whole trip, and I guess that made it worse. I have muscle tensions too on every psychedelic it seems, even weed.

This seems to make lsd a very unpleasant experience for me. You know what I experienced, after the peak? For the next 8 hours, I was experiencing the body load and it was provoking a primal feeling of a fear of sickness and death. I realized my mortality and humanity, and all I wanted was to never do this again and make my body and mind as healthy as possible so I'll feel sick as infrequently as possible. I ended the trip with a newfound appreciation for life and the realization that everyone else is in the same boat as me and we all feel suffering and will one day die and we need to just enjoy the time we have...

so i got a lot out of the trip... but it was so physically unpleasant for most of the duration. During the peak i saw a lot of weird ass shit that felt so vividly real, but that didn't compare to feeling the reality of the achings of my body..

i don't see how i could muster the will to take more acid within the near future... need at least a year i think... i don't know.

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maybe this is a sign that it is not in your highest interest to do these drugs (at least at this time)

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deff said:

maybe this is a sign that it is not in your highest benefit to do these drugs (at least at this time)

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Or a sign that it was not LSD at all, I have never once experienced nausea or headaches on LSD, but I could see the neck tension if you were holding some weird posture, spacing out, without realizing it.  In which case, jump in a hot tub or something ....

I've seen the Ehrlich reagent test go as cheap as $12.50 on eBay.  Well worth the money for any head to have.

Watch that documentary on bunkpolice, something like 60% of the blotter going around festivals is some random bullshit RC.

CosmicJoke said:

deff said:

maybe this is a sign that it is not in your highest benefit to do these drugs (at least at this time)

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Or a sign that it was not LSD at all, I have never once experienced nausea or headaches on LSD, but I could see the neck tension if you were holding some weird posture, spacing out, without realizing it.  In which case, jump in a hot tub or something ....

I've seen the Ehrlich reagent test go as cheap as $12.50 on eBay.  Well worth the money for any head to have.

Watch that documentary on bunkpolice, something like 60% of the blotter going around festivals is some random bullshit RC.

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lessismore said:

Doesn't sound like LSD

but nausea, jaw problems etc. can happen on dirty stuff or when you are a beginner (psyche reaction: im feeling cold, im dying, i cant breathe, help me! - my neck hurts!)

you should always test with an Ehrlich test kit

your subconscious knows if you should do LSD or not do it, many stop after 1 trip, some keep on tripping till 100 trips

LSD has no taste , usually comes on 1/4" squares , and bodyload is rare but can happen for new users

I have had fake LSD before, not sure what chem it was, but it had a strong chemical taste, was sold as LSD.. that can be dangerous, you can OD easily on research chemicals, so always test your stuff

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MarkostheGnostic said:

CosmicJoke said:

deff said:

maybe this is a sign that it is not in your highest benefit to do these drugs (at least at this time)

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Or a sign that it was not LSD at all, I have never once experienced nausea or headaches on LSD, but I could see the neck tension if you were holding some weird posture, spacing out, without realizing it.  In which case, jump in a hot tub or something ....

I've seen the Ehrlich reagent test go as cheap as $12.50 on eBay.  Well worth the money for any head to have.

Watch that documentary on bunkpolice, something like 60% of the blotter going around festivals is some random bullshit RC.

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Good points! The only times I threw up on LSD was my 2nd trip (after an upper class man said "It's not the acid, it's YOU," and he was right, and the time I insufflated 600 mcg of Orange Sunshine. But that was psychic overload. In fact, I developed migraines in college, especially after those trendy cheap wine & cheese meetings at school. 1/8 of a blotter (those 1/4" spots used to be a solid 250-300 mcg) used to relieve the migraine pain and nausea (unconverted ergot perhaps).

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Well, I've always preferred LSD to psilocybin mushrooms in part because the acid did not cause me nausea.  Shrooms, OTOH, did (particularly at higher doses, 5g etc.) but it was a short, passing thing that was worth it....  45mins or so after consuming the shrooms and the nausea would pass.  All in all, I'd recommend the OP trying the mushrooms instead, perhaps as tea.  I generally don't recall experiencing the nausea from shroom tea, or having shroom bits stuck in my teeth for that matter . 

Without advising a dosage to take, with good, potent mushrooms I'd compare 1 hit of 100ug of clean acid to 1.75g of mushrooms, 200ug to 3.5g of mushrooms, and 300ug to 5g of mushrooms.

lessismore said:

There is no nausea with mushroom chocolates, got a tek in my journal

At least not with 4-4.5g, I don't even feel like I've eaten anything

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Maybe that's why the Meso-Americans took Chocolatyl ("Food of the Gods") along with Teonanacatyl ("Flesh of the Gods").

CosmicJoke said:

I think it is important to remember the psychedelics can amplify symptoms you already have, so if you live day to day with stomach issues, headaches, and neck tension, some acid may just exacerbate your identification with the "pain body" unless possibly used in a therapeutic setting... Just my $.02. These same psychedelics have helped people who are dying and in chronic pain.... It is interesting when you think about it

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CosmicJoke said:

I think it is important to remember the psychedelics can amplify symptoms you already have, so if you live day to day with stomach issues, headaches, and neck tension, some acid may just exacerbate your identification with the "pain body" unless possibly used in a therapeutic setting... Just my $.02. These same psychedelics have helped people who are dying and in chronic pain.... It is interesting when you think about it

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once in a lifetime said:

i agree w/ emphasis on emotions. .

and there was, ah this one slipped my memory; but a reference to a psychotropic in a sci-fi show, or a psychadelic or something which was used in the similar type of way, and it was something along the lines of 'amplifies what's already there, the good and bad; so if you're a good man, you're great,' etc. it was definitely Riker talking hahaha. I remembered that much.

but in terms of inner states. .. it would be kinda like that. . so all the more important to spend a while in practice a-fore hand. .


but nah, no need to do it today - all i would say is, whenever it feels right

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hehe I like the idea of it amplifying whats there - because then Im the best motherfucker ever