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this is a pretty darn sweet tribute (less than a month ago) :
Dear Jerry - Ripple - Bob Weir, Bill Kreutzmann, Micky Hart
and I guess all these and more; Allen Toussaint, David Grisman, Sam Bush, Peter Frampton, Buddy Miller, Jorma Kaukonen,
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Breakdown, Old & In The Way
this one blew me away; jerry garcia, david grisman, john kahn, etc. i won't keep posting these lol this isn't the jerry garcia appreciation thread, but i thought it was cool.
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once in a lifetime said: Breakdown, Old & In The Way
this one blew me away; jerry garcia, david grisman, john kahn, etc. i won't keep posting these lol this isn't the jerry garcia appreciation thread, but i thought it was cool.
ah you gotta check the pizza tapes, allegedly stolen by a pizza man off the table while delivering to garcia, grisman, and tony rice
is epic
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Re: lsd to unlock my mind, tips plz [Re: CosmicJoke]
#21800085 - 06/12/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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I love all the old stuff mentioned in this thread, but it bums me out when people talk like that's all there is for heads. I mean, look at all this newish music:
Psychedelic Ambient / Downtempo:
Ulrich Schnauss Carbon Based Lifeforms Solar Fields  Blue Lunar Monkey Stars of the Lid Alexander Daf Windy & Carl Bluetech  Shuttle 358 Helios Riddle Jonson Miwon Abakus Eluvium Outersect Sideliner Oophoi Ishq Elve
Sundial and/or Aural Planet 
Psychedelic Rock:
Soul Of The Phoenix  Hotel Wrecking City Traders Black Moth Super Rainbow Colour Haze  Crooked Hook Causa Sui Bardo Pond Panda Bear Cloudland Canyon Grails Apse Om  Weird Owl Angels of Light The Black Angels Vampire Hands
Drone / Loop:
Growing  Terrestrial Tones White Rainbow  Barn Owl Stag Hare White Lodge The Skull Defekts Pocahaunted Hammock Avrocar
Space Folk:
Zak Riles Landing White Magic Eden Express Sir Richard Bishop Black Rebel Motorcycle Club Phosphorescent  Jim O'Rourke Crippled Black Pheonix The Nature Of Light Fire On Fire Spires That In The Sunset Rise Talk Demonic Jack Rose Wolves & Wishes Windy & Carl Califone Coleen Lichens
Avant / Experimental:
Hella Todd Ruins Damsel Zach Hill The Books  Dan Deacon Flying Lotus Secret Chiefs 3  Estradasphere Groundtruther The Book of Knots Sleepytime Gorilla Museum Sunburned Hand of the Man School of Emotional Engineering Twi The Humble Feather
Dream Pop:
M83 Eliot Lipp The Fields Our Sleepless Forest TV On The Radio School of Seven Bells  Forest For The Trees Myagi
Sludge / Fuzz Metal:
Humanfly  Bossk Sleep Cave Meniscus UFOmammut  Sons of Otis Indian Lent0  Earth Conifer Clouds Oaks Caldera Honcho ISIS Pelican Grails Moccasin Melvins Tides Windmills By The Ocean Supercontinent  Zozobra 35007
World Fusion:
Tropicala Coconut El Guincho Tinariwen  Sitaar Tah! Mickey Hart Planet Drum Global Drum Project  Zakir Hussein Ali Akbar Kahn Remember Shakti  Mahavishnu Orchestra Andre Afram Asmar Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan Juana Molina
Psychedelic Hip-Hop:
TZU Homeboy Sandman Aesop Rock  Buck 65 Dert Floyd Diplo Burial Boom-Bip Subtle  Doseone Themselves Jedi Mind Tricks Santogold Tobacco  Bisc1 El-P
Post Rock:
This Will Destroy You Explosions In The Sky Alcest Jesu And So I Watch You From Afar Go-Neko! God Is An Astronaut Lights Out Asia This IS Your Captain Speaking God Speed You Black Emperor Red Sparrows
Post Jazz:
Amon Tobin  Elvin Aarset Basquiet Strings Cinematic Orchestra Flat Earth Society Esbjorn Svensson Trio The Kilimanjaro Dark Jazz Ensemble
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Re: lsd to unlock my mind, tips plz [Re: Middleman]
#21800112 - 06/12/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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Have seen a lot of those bands, and the tickets cost me under $20 unlike seeing The Grateful Dead farewell tour or Phish which is opening in Bend, OR scalped tickets are $165 for lawn right now 
Love Subtle, Dose One, Boom-Bip Themselves, Aesop Rock Tobacco Flying Lotus (RECENTLY JUST LISTENED TO ALBUM ON DMT  um Secret Chiefs 3 (can't forget mr. bungle or anything Mike Patton) Zakir Hussein (have seen w/ John McLaughlin at Carnegie Hall) Aesop Rock have seen too many times to count Mahavishnu Orchestra Mickey Heart (of the Dead) saw live in college campus
reading bottom up I dunno why I read posts that way
anyways that's enough yah I love your music :heart
Man I remember seeing Dose one in Seattle at Chop Suey w/ ummmmmmmm The Notwist before they had the project 13 & God going, two separate sets w/ each playing, and came out and played together in the end... was like '02 Dose one was in the musculaskelton outfit w/ mohawk, jel with his MPC, was so sick
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Re: lsd to unlock my mind, tips plz [Re: CosmicJoke]
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Ha yeah, I knew you were hip. I used to buy CDs from Dose when he worked at Berkeley Amoeba. "G" is for Deep blew my mind.
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Re: lsd to unlock my mind, tips plz [Re: Middleman]
#21801150 - 06/13/15 08:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's a way lotta music 
Yesterday I came across New Riders of the Purple Sage with about 23 albums ( a few live )
too much music history to go through heh (NRPS that is) they have overlap with GD, but it looks like not as much as some others.
Space Folk seems especially intriguing to me.
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I'm in the process of doing this - you should message me about specific stuff and I can likely give you some tips
Whenever you take LSD - think of it as an experiment. Test your limits, the limits of your perceptions. Realize that perceptions are conditional and can be altered to reflect your view of reality.
Learn how to do things - practice them on LSD, remember how you did it, and try it while you're sober
For the first step, I would take an extremely complex/dynamic pattern (like a spackle ceiling) and spend 30 mins-1hr just looking at it. Unfocus your eyes at different levels, try to achieve a fractal, make it spin, make your own patterns, just play with it
And remember - its going to take a LONG time before you're even able to do the smallest things that you can do on LSD while you're sober. It's been about a year for me and I can achieve a pseudo-fractal, slight spinning on patterns, and slight expand/contrast. I've once been able to change the shape of my room and the colors.
While I'm tripping, I've achieveed the ULTIMATE fractal, as well as controlled and increbibally detailed hallucinations (I was able to hallucinate different rooms and antiques piled together... super cool)
LSD is an artificial raising of your vibration. It shows you an artificial state of awakening. Use that state as reference to alter your sober reality.
Again, message me about more - I have a LOT of stuff on this - also look into my threads if you want. Good luck on your mission!
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Re: lsd to unlock my mind, tips plz [Re: glimpee]
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great, encouraging post, bro 
glad to see you around.
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I just wanted to say I love this thread.  I know understand the purpose of psychedelics much clearer. This has inspired me to harness meditation and music. I can now see past the clouds of reality, back into my self at my prime. Thanks
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Re: lsd to unlock my mind, tips plz [Re: Middleman]
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Rev. Morton said: Ha yeah, I knew you were hip. I used to buy CDs from Dose when he worked at Berkeley Amoeba. "G" is for Deep blew my mind. 
Think I gotta snag that one yet, Hemispheres was the first Dose One album I had, but he was mostly braggin'
That Ol Pagan Shit
This one for you WS
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Re: lsd to unlock my mind, tips plz [Re: CosmicJoke]
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lkasdjlkjweiof lsakdj;sdjfklejiowr is the best way to sum up what i am going through right now lol.
so glad i only took 1 hit or i might be in a psych ward jesus christ
ill come back to this post when im sober lol
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Yup
@OP I once took LSD really high dose, now I know the whole universe
So you can just ask me
Amazing that science doesn't do LSD they would know so much more
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Re: lsd to unlock my mind, tips plz [Re: lessismore]
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lessismore said: Yup
@OP I once took LSD really high dose, now I know the whole universe
So you can just ask me
Amazing that science doesn't do LSD they would know so much more
Be careful that you don't convince yourself that you know. Different than really knowing and I'm skeptical someone can truly know that fast.
There is also often more information that you cannot even perceive right now. It will blow your mind when it comes to you.
I thought I knew every feeling. Until I felt a thought lose all meaning while keeping grammatical context, for example.
Sorry if that came off as rude, if you actually did find out a lot, more power to you. I just like to add insights to think upon
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Re: lsd to unlock my mind, tips plz [Re: evenbreak]
#21813047 - 06/15/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago) |
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coming down now... the body load is so high
i can't get past the nausea/headache/neck tensions right now.. felt it throughout the entire trip
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blah, make sure to reagent test your blotter these days
hard to say if it was really acid 
bunkpolice.com
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Re: lsd to unlock my mind, tips plz [Re: CosmicJoke]
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my source was good, i'm 80% sure it was acid, nothing is guaranteed
anyway, i guess... i have a lot to say, but none of that shit matters, except that i should be happy that i'm alive and breathing and there are other people and animals who are also alive and breathing around me
i don't see what else i could get out of psychedelics aside from that. but if I ever lose my way again, that's when i'll trip again
there are no gods/entities for me to see... how could i prove they're not all in my head? the only way to know is to train and discipline my mind way more than in its current state..
but there is no more use to take lsd again in the near future.. damn, i was planning on taking it once every 2 weeks until i run out, now i have 24 blotters that i spent $200 on that's just sitting around and will probably keep sitting around until it goes bad lol oh well
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Re: lsd to unlock my mind, tips plz [Re: evenbreak]
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evenbreak said: my source was good, i'm 80% sure it was acid, nothing is guaranteed
anyway, i guess... i have a lot to say, but none of that shit matters, except that i should be happy that i'm alive and breathing and there are other people and animals who are also alive and breathing around me
i don't see what else i could get out of psychedelics aside from that. but if I ever lose my way again, that's when i'll trip again
there are no gods/entities for me to see... how could i prove they're not all in my head? the only way to know is to train and discipline my mind way more than in its current state..
but there is no more use to take lsd again in the near future.. damn, i was planning on taking it once every 2 weeks until i run out, now i have 24 blotters that i spent $200 on that's just sitting around and will probably keep sitting around until it goes bad lol oh well
Just because you didn't experience something doesn't mean you've experienced everything. I will tell you as a pseudo-veteran that I've had my collective mind blown many times by LSD - even when I thought I've experienced everything
There are NEW feelings to discover, Im NOT kidding. I've experienced at least one.
Have you acheived an ultimate fractal?
Have you created rooms and stacked detailed furniture or duplicate pillows? I have done this stuff and more. And I'm not even close to understanding near what I want to understand.
As for how do we know this stuff is real? We don't. But it's the only possibility of reality past this. What I mean by that - is it's the ONLY thing people percieve outside of this reality. On top of that, once people know, their intuition tends to kick in, telling them it's true
I could flip the same question back on you, how do you know this reality is as we believe is rather than a figment of your imaginations?
Before you answer - you should know quantum science is proving that reality is a construct of consciousness, not vise versa.
In the end, the only reason to explore is curiosity. It you believe you wont experience anything you - you wont. That simple.
If you want to learn more and you allow yourself to blow your mind - it will happen
at least if you take enough
If you didn't think it was worth it - and you DON'T see spirits, then maybe you should start to work on using LSD as a learning experience/reference point from which you can build a sober trip, at least that's what I'm doing.
Just to add one more thing - the last trip I had didn't feel worth it either. But it was just one trip, and I spent a lot of money on it and didnt make any back..... like 120 on 7 candies and it felt like 2 tabs for me
If you're taking 2 tabs normally, try four. If that doesn't blow your mind, try 6 or 7 (my favorite number so far, price per trip)
If youre worried 6 or 7 wont work and you're SUPER confident in your self control, do 10. I haven't done 10 of pure lsd (ive dont 7 tabs 1.2 of caps and .2 of molly.... I've also done a half of shrooms.... I might have done 10 tabs but I forget, and if I did it was once) and my average right now is 6-7 tabs
Let me know what you think - I'd honestly love to talk this out with you
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Re: lsd to unlock my mind, tips plz [Re: glimpee]
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The body load. The constant feeling and fear of throwing up... I really hate throwing up, and I was trying to hold it back the whole trip, and I guess that made it worse. I have muscle tensions too on every psychedelic it seems, even weed.
This seems to make lsd a very unpleasant experience for me. You know what I experienced, after the peak? For the next 8 hours, I was experiencing the body load and it was provoking a primal feeling of a fear of sickness and death. I realized my mortality and humanity, and all I wanted was to never do this again and make my body and mind as healthy as possible so I'll feel sick as infrequently as possible. I ended the trip with a newfound appreciation for life and the realization that everyone else is in the same boat as me and we all feel suffering and will one day die and we need to just enjoy the time we have...
so i got a lot out of the trip... but it was so physically unpleasant for most of the duration. During the peak i saw a lot of weird ass shit that felt so vividly real, but that didn't compare to feeling the reality of the achings of my body..
i don't see how i could muster the will to take more acid within the near future... need at least a year i think... i don't know.
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Re: lsd to unlock my mind, tips plz [Re: evenbreak]
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evenbreak said: The body load. The constant feeling and fear of throwing up... I really hate throwing up, and I was trying to hold it back the whole trip, and I guess that made it worse. I have muscle tensions too on every psychedelic it seems, even weed.
This seems to make lsd a very unpleasant experience for me. You know what I experienced, after the peak? For the next 8 hours, I was experiencing the body load and it was provoking a primal feeling of a fear of sickness and death. I realized my mortality and humanity, and all I wanted was to never do this again and make my body and mind as healthy as possible so I'll feel sick as infrequently as possible. I ended the trip with a newfound appreciation for life and the realization that everyone else is in the same boat as me and we all feel suffering and will one day die and we need to just enjoy the time we have...
so i got a lot out of the trip... but it was so physically unpleasant for most of the duration. During the peak i saw a lot of weird ass shit that felt so vividly real, but that didn't compare to feeling the reality of the achings of my body..
i don't see how i could muster the will to take more acid within the near future... need at least a year i think... i don't know.
Take your time, but coming from experience, if you let that fear grow and fester, your next trip will be terrible.
How much time did you spend getting in the zone before you tripped?
Anything unpleasant happen recently?
what would you say bugs you the most about yourself?
Were you alone or with people?
Whats your living situation?
Answer what you want/pass on any other info thats similar. I wanna find out why you experienced what you did and I wanna see if I can help you reap the benefits of a perfect trip
-------------------- Just because I am arrogant does not mean I forget my place. It is how I choose to talk. I am not a monk. I am my own path, and I am without influence. Talk to me about my core being before you question my mental stability or life-choices. Chances are, they're only shocking to you because they don't fit your idea of what is.
Check out my Art Journal for some stuff I do http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21647069
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