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Re: lsd to unlock my mind, tips plz [Re: evenbreak]
    #21832842 - 06/20/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Within 40 minutes I was tripping hard as fuck and every 1 minute was lasting 15 minutes. It wasn't bitter but there was very very slight numbing under my tongue[.

My body wasn't feeling good throughout the trip.. aches, tension, and just weird sensations.. not necessarily unpleasant, but i was just feeling these foreign sensations and I guess they could be interpreted as either good or bad and I interpreted them as bad. I never threw up btw... just had a fear of throwing up.

I wish there wasn't all this anxiety and unpleasantness... I have 25 more tabs and nothing to do with it because I don't want to feel fucked up lol. The mind fuckery was fun, the body load was not.

I am pretty sure it was LSD because I obtained it from a well reviewed vendor and no one has ever said his LSD was bunk. His stuff was expensive but well-reputed and that is why I paid so much more for it




Numbing means that you probably took 25I-NBOMe dude, definitely NOT LSD!!!!!  You joked about two putting you in the psychiatric ward, but taking two might have sent you to the E.R.  You gotta wise up about taking random street drugs, it's 2015 and trusting your source is just a bad idea all together.  Get the reagent tests, it's just foolish not to.

Just because a vendor has a lot of feedback doesn't mean much, 99% of the people hand out +5 ratings before even trying the substance.  Many uneducated people wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the two substances.....  I've seen even pretty good vendors fuck up and send the wrong chemical by mistake, he could vend multiple blotters with different chemicals for example.  Two powders can look exactly alike, I believe Asante went to the ER 'cuz of a vendor's major fuck up giving him a stimulant instead of a dissociative.  Always test!

http://bunkpolice.com  (there are better deals to be found on ebay, just a lot of info here)



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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

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Re: lsd to unlock my mind, tips plz [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #21833273 - 06/20/15 06:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

:whathesaid: Cannot go just by reviews, especially when things like numbness or a bitter taste. Unfortunately we can't draw any conclusions from the body load; Some get it and some don't, only sure thing is that it will get worse (for those who experience it) as the dose increases. Numbing suggests an NBOMe pretty strongly, but we don't do substance ID here for a reason (That is, explicitly stating "You have/don't have ____")- there are no guarantees. An Ehrlich reagent is a must for LSD, but even that is no guarantee.. Someone can lay an inactive amount of any tryptamine for a positive Ehrlich reaction, and an NBOMe for effects. Services like EcstasyData.org are the only sure thing ($40 for ecstasy pills, $100 for anything else).


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Re: lsd to unlock my mind, tips plz [Re: DustBunny]
    #21833334 - 06/20/15 06:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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:whathesaid: Cannot go just by reviews, especially when things like numbness or a bitter taste. Unfortunately we can't draw any conclusions from the body load; Some get it and some don't, only sure thing is that it will get worse (for those who experience it) as the dose increases. Numbing suggests an NBOMe pretty strongly, but we don't do substance ID here for a reason (That is, explicitly stating "You have/don't have ____")- there are no guarantees. An Ehrlich reagent is a must for LSD, but even that is no guarantee.. Someone can lay an inactive amount of any tryptamine for a positive Ehrlich reaction, and an NBOMe for effects. Services like EcstasyData.org are the only sure thing ($40 for ecstasy pills, $100 for anything else).





Heh, that's so depressing that dealers are now going to such extremes....  I suppose you could test different slivers of a hit with multiple reagents, hit one sliver with the ehrlich and then if it turns purple, take another and test it with the marquis, should give some reaction to 25i I believe?  maybe olive green?


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: lsd to unlock my mind, tips plz [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #21834444 - 06/20/15 10:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

If you have taken 10 hits and you are still alive, chances are good that it was LSD ;-)

Else it is probably Nbome..

Nbome and DOB etc. have an overdose as low as 2mg, that's what can fit onto 1 tab, so 1 tab can send you to the hospital, people have been to hospital on as little as 500-1000ug 25i-nbome according to erowid, very unpredictable drug, one trip it works great at 1200ug, next one it sends you to the ER unconscious and in cramps with 600ug.

Only dealers with total neglect for other human beings would pass that off as LSD, you should be able to tell from the kind of person you get it from?

If you get it online, you have less of a chance of knowing if it is real, feedback can easily be faked there

Don't buy your LSD from gangsters :wink:

Of course I forgot to mention the long term vasoconstriction with the Nbomes, it starts in the feet and hands , they get cold, suddenly they turn black and rot off. Just like with Bromo Dragonfly. They have a high affinity compared to LSD so they are so powerful they can turn off blodflow to any part of your body permanently/for a long time/weeks. Guess what happens when you turn off blod flow to your brain, legs, arms, or kidneys?

Bromo Dragonfly should feel like really good LSD I've heard, just longer, same with the 25i-nbome. Just that suddenly your feet and arms get cold and you cannot feel them (vasoconstriction), then nose etc., then you get the seizures and end up in the ER in coma.

In low doses bromo dragonfly and 25i-nbome may not last longer than LSD, but if you take more than 1 hit, they will, and they can kill, many have died from them


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Re: lsd to unlock my mind, tips plz [Re: lessismore]
    #21834900 - 06/21/15 12:26 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I've read that slight numbness occurs with tabs that are verified to be LSD too, so I don't think that is irrefutable proof that what I have isn't LSD.

The vendor seems like a good guy, he resells from a very very reputable vendor that anyone who looks into purchasing LSD on the internet will know the name of. He does not have a single bad review .. I just find it unlikely he would sell bunk, knowing that all it takes is one bad review to throw your reputation off.

It's never impossible that what I have is bunk, but I feel like all the evidence I currently have makes it fairly unlikely, but I know the only way to be sure is to get a test kit. I don't really feel like tripping again any time soon... but if I do decide to, I'll be sure to drop the $20 or so to get a test kit first.

In all likelihood.. i'm just a nervous and anxious wreck and that was exagerrated in my trip and turned into body load.


Edited by evenbreak (06/21/15 12:32 AM)


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Re: lsd to unlock my mind, tips plz [Re: evenbreak]
    #21835007 - 06/21/15 12:52 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

hundreds of acid trips over 17 years and not ever once the slightest bit of numbness....

try the mushrooms if you haven't is my only suggestion :shrug:

believe whatever you want to...... 

btw i've had molly that has had thousands of positive feedbacks from the DNM that was bulllllllshit, then a wise fella recommended me another vendor, pressed pills of all things too, which i'd tend to trust less.... but BAM, I was in ecstasy heaven.... just sayin' :shrug:

hope you gave the vendor a negative rating - headache, nausea, numb tongue, shit trip


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.


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Re: lsd to unlock my mind, tips plz [Re: lessismore]
    #21835116 - 06/21/15 01:24 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Nbome gives very slight numbness

LSD never does really for me..


I'm sure your online vendor is the nicest guy in the world because he decided to sell to you


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Re: lsd to unlock my mind, tips plz [Re: lessismore]
    #21835386 - 06/21/15 03:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Numbness is concerning, aswell as bodyload which is more common with N-BOMes, it would've also been considerably bitter

As others have said an Ehlrich test should help to let you know if you have an indole which helps to narrow it down, UV can work if it's a good dose on there which sounds like there should be from your TR, but sending one tab into Energy Control for €50 is the only way to know 100%, i tend to send one from every batch in so i know it's accuratelty dosed

If you can upload a picture of the blotter next to a coin or something to judge the size of the paper, if it has any unique print on it... that can help to check it out too, there's an LSD print thread in the 'Other Drugs Discussion' forum, you obviously can't name the vendor here but other people can get on the DNMs and check it out for you :wink:


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Re: lsd to unlock my mind, tips plz [Re: Chronic7]
    #21836903 - 06/21/15 12:58 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I think we've talked enough about his symptoms

we should get back to helping him unlock his mind with LSD.



My suggestion - when you're tripping, test the limits of your perception. This might not come easilly the first few times, but try controlling your trip - and remember what it feels like to control your perceptions.

Some good ways to practice - find a complex and ranging pattern and just look at it for 30 minutes. Once it starts moving - embrace that feeling and slowly add your own hand to the mix

- Put on some blindfolds, pop on some headphones, find a big open space and play with the dreamscape! I've been able to make fractal bombs and color spirals, at this point I can even create rooms and detailed furniture.... Soon I'ma start learning how to blow fake rooms up :smile:




LSD allows you to test the limits of your perceptions - allow it to unblock your doubt - know that anything achieved on LSD is possible while sober - why wouldn't it be? You can control of how you perceive the world, it just takes time to get rid of the repression of that skill.

We are taught to perceive the world in a certain way, a realistic way. Abandoning that view takes a lot of time. I'm not even close and it's been 1-2 years


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Re: lsd to unlock my mind, tips plz [Re: glimpee] * 1
    #21840608 - 06/22/15 04:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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I think we've talked enough about his symptoms

we should get back to helping him unlock his mind with LSD.





He needs to make sure he has LSD first, I don't think the OP will be tripping anytime soon after his experience anyway

So maybe we should help him to unlock his mind without psychedelics...

I recommend the OP takes up a meditation practice in order to understand his mind


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Re: lsd to unlock my mind, tips plz [Re: Chronic7]
    #21841824 - 06/22/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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The Chronic said:
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glimpee said:
I think we've talked enough about his symptoms

we should get back to helping him unlock his mind with LSD.





He needs to make sure he has LSD first, I don't think the OP will be tripping anytime soon after his experience anyway

So maybe we should help him to unlock his mind without psychedelics...

I recommend the OP takes up a meditation practice in order to understand his mind





I agree

Although I think that meditating without learning from an artificially raised vibration probably takes longer to achieve new things - because you have no reference to work from'

but idk for sure

lucid dreaming is cool too


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Check out my Art Journal for some stuff I do http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21647069


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