MarkostheGnostic said:

Well, you can disagree all you want, but the Grateful Dead evokes joy for the most part, not head trips. I'm not talking about their cowboy songs, I'm talking about their inspired Garcia-Hunter and Weir-Barlow songs, their improvisational space into drums, their insertion of songs-within-songs which stretch the outer song like taffy, changing one's sense of time radically. When the dosage gets very high classic Indian sitar by Ravi Shankar (selected ragas) is the way to go. Western classic music is WAY too structured and confining. Garcia's first solo album from track 5 to 10 will, even for experienced tripper, take one back to before one's birth into a realm of ecstatic joy. There is nothing in my musical repertoire that is more potent. Don't believe me, just try it. Grateful dead is uniquely "rock music in a jazz idiom," but that does not explain anything. Do this guy a favor and desist from recommending Handel's Messiah, Bach's Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring or Gregorian chants because you are into Christian religiosity. He needs to remain WIDE OPEN. So instead of paying lip-service to my age and wisdom, actually trust my advice for his benefit. The Grateful Dead sound is a 'cosmic canvas,' a wide open space for his mind to expand into. BE HERE NOW is interdenominational. Let his spiritual path be shown him by the Spirit, not you or me. 

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MarkostheGnostic said:

CosmicJoke said:

I have, 'tis a good album, though Garcia in the studio has never been my personal preference.

The wheel is turning and you can't slow down
You can't let go and you can't hold on
You can't go back and you can't stand still
If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will


I don't like engineered, I like risks, I like chances of failure, maybe it will be a bad show.... maybe some extraordinary magic will happen.

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Live shows were one thing, and they are a thing of the past. Now I engineer set & setting and I still get results from this myself as well as with those who haven't Really heard those tracks in the optimal state. Sometimes, in the safety of my house during a trip I can't even imagine how I used to dose among loud crowds, bright lights, and the over-stimulation of huge shows. Oh yeah, I do remember freaking out and leaving Englishtown soon after Dead came on. Speed to wake up from camping and two 400 mcg nickle-sized blotters.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grateful_Dead_discography#Dick.27s_Picks

just trying to help buddy big compendium to choose from....
yanno, the studio recordings are lovely, but he surely seemed to have a knack for improvisation

might even yanno hear something you haven't before

MarkostheGnostic said:

The new 80 disk boxed set costs $699.98. I bought the $450 boxed set but I'm not crazy about their limited repertoire in '72. Europe '72 was actually sufficient for me by itself. I never open this box. But THIS boxed set...Shit. http://www.dead.net/store/special-edition-shops/50th-anniversary-shop/30-trips-around-sun-box?eml=dn/30TripsAroundSu-body-inline-top-1-1/2015June2/2443830/6131962&etsubid=39873032 I ONLY saw them 50-60 times between 1972-1994. Listening to a show right NOW.

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i got into the whole dead scene via trading cassette tapes of live shows

seems a bit greedy

especially when they are offering it digitally too

should be able to pick and choose which ones you want rather than an all or nothing $700

meh, the dead have already made their living imho....

i wouldn't be beyond   this one

once in a lifetime said:

eventually I came to realize jazz is pretty much best

<3

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CosmicJoke said:

well my favorite part was tracks 5-6, spidergawd into eep hour, that was sheer psychedelic awe inspiring intensity, mean like seeing dali's hallucinogenic toreador for the first time....

was getting a nice massage from a honey during to lay me down, mescaline is very mdma like, it's great for body work, just feeling comfortable in your own skin and owning your own his-story and being free and open and honest and candid with it..... visuals aren't so impressive.... no spiderweb imagery for me, was more like rolling hills... the visual component was far from the pinnacle of the trip of even at high dose, would say it's more empatheogenic with some psychedelic features... is good for self esteem i guess, feel like with all the that life has to offer, i'm coping with it all pretty well

if you've ever taken a very low dose of acid w/ some clean mdma that is close enough facsimile to what mescaline is imho

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Never done any 'candy-flipping' (LSD & MDMA), I'm something of a purist and do not think I could process the combination, but I certainly know their effects separately. I never took enough Peyote to get a threshold effect and I've never had synthetic Mescaline. I remember reading in the book Helter Skelter, about the Mansonoids, that someone in that scene (maybe Gary Hinman whose ear they cut off), had a 'small Mescaline lab setup.' Always wondered about whether the precursors were more easily obtainable than for acid. It certainly has to be less esoteric than making acid (e.g., working under amber and red light during certain stages).

Correction: Extraction is a lot easier than synthesis.   http://www.hipforums.com/forum/topic/318810-mescaline-extract-synthesis/

once in a lifetime said:

i mean the song Genesis, is there an album too?
from Quah

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