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Re: feminism and the patriarchy [Re: pirate-blues]
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pirate-blues said:
setb said:
Rustifer said:
Like this.

:facepalm:



Really hard.

This is going to be an excellent 20+ page argument.



Muh patriarchy






God, I watched the video where miss thing up there was featured in and was appalled.


Third wave feminism does not sit well with me. I consider myself a secular humanist/egalitarian, I think that there are certain parts of the world where women are treated horrendously and it's in those places where things are so disportionate between genders that feminism is really accomplishing big things. Research has shown that when un-industrialized nations that provide women with access to education have greater success because those values and teachings are highly likely to be retained within the community and past down to future generations and those are places that make me recognize the importance of the feminisms core value.


Unfortunately I feel that third-wave feminism has essentially gone full circle and that they are actually furthering the victim mentality among young women and that the culture of hyper-sensitivity(TRIGGER WARNING) and excessive political correctness that crosses over into ostracizing minority demographics does way more harm than good.

I think it's important that there was is a specific group geared towards issues that women are unique in facing - but I think men should have the same kind of open and forthcoming discussion because they too have unique issues and suffer from discrimination that is unique to being male.


I wouldn't touch a women's studies class with a ten foot pole, personally. I think most women who identify as feminist are not radical and merely believe in independence and equality, but in academic circles feminism gets really really fucking crazy.



:highfive:


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Re: feminism and the patriarchy [Re: Shroomism]
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I'm glad this started going some where while I was asleep.

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Re: feminism and the patriarchy [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
evenbreak said:
Real talk guys... the general consensus among top sociologists seem to be that we live in a patriarchy where women are at a much greater disadvantage and men hold all the power.




I have more faith in what scientologists have to say



I wonder what tom cruise would have to say about this topic now that you say that.


I'll listen to the bitching about a patriarchy when A. divorce laws/settlments are more fair for men, and B. When women can be enlisted for the draft. With be by not enlisting females is pretty much saying "we have the same attitude as WW2 their only purpose it to cook and breed" That seems pretty sexist to me since we're suppose to be equal....


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Re: feminism and the patriarchy [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
pirate-blues said:
setb said:
Rustifer said:
Like this.

:facepalm:



Really hard.

This is going to be an excellent 20+ page argument.



Muh patriarchy






God, I watched the video where miss thing up there was featured in and was appalled.


Third wave feminism does not sit well with me. I consider myself a secular humanist/egalitarian, I think that there are certain parts of the world where women are treated horrendously and it's in those places where things are so disportionate between genders that feminism is really accomplishing big things. Research has shown that when un-industrialized nations that provide women with access to education have greater success because those values and teachings are highly likely to be retained within the community and past down to future generations and those are places that make me recognize the importance of the feminisms core value.


Unfortunately I feel that third-wave feminism has essentially gone full circle and that they are actually furthering the victim mentality among young women and that the culture of hyper-sensitivity(TRIGGER WARNING) and excessive political correctness that crosses over into ostracizing minority demographics does way more harm than good.

I think it's important that there was is a specific group geared towards issues that women are unique in facing - but I think men should have the same kind of open and forthcoming discussion because they too have unique issues and suffer from discrimination that is unique to being male.


I wouldn't touch a women's studies class with a ten foot pole, personally. I think most women who identify as feminist are not radical and merely believe in independence and equality, but in academic circles feminism gets really really fucking crazy.



:highfive:




I like her.


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Re: feminism and the patriarchy [Re: Mescalean]
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Well.. it looks like everyone is saying feminism is a load of horse shit, basically? And that the only reason it's well regarded in academia is because people are too scared to criticize it?

Well, going into my class with that mentality is going to make lectures much more unenjoyable.. but I guess I still have to keep an open mind.

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Re: feminism and the patriarchy [Re: evenbreak]
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It is well regarded in academia because the academy is infested with pin headed liberal trolls who can't justify their paychecks and existence without coming up with a bunch of outrageous bullshit.  Thees morons were not given positions at university when I went. 

By the way, if you put ten women who identify themselves as feminists in a room and leave them alone long enough they will claw each other's eyes out over what constitutes feminism.


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Re: feminism and the patriarchy [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
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If you ever open your mouth they will accuse you of rape.

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Re: feminism and the patriarchy [Re: Rustifer]
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And they would be right


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Re: feminism and the patriarchy [Re: zappaisgod]
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Don't you two fucking forget it either... ALL MEN ARE RAPISTS ):


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Edited by Mescalean (04/11/15 03:27 PM)

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Re: feminism and the patriarchy [Re: Mescalean]
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Fucking A right.  Did you know that checking out tits is rape.  True story.


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Re: feminism and the patriarchy [Re: zappaisgod]
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http://thewilderness.me/the-accused/

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In the end, the only predator on the campus of UVA at that time was Sabrina Erdely.




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Re: feminism and the patriarchy [Re: zappaisgod]
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If I could create more people with out wemen I would spearhead a femicide - I'd be the hitler of the sexes!
I don't have any use for them.


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Edited by Infinitys Minute (10/09/16 10:31 PM)

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Re: feminism and the patriarchy [Re: Infinitys Minute]
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there really aren't many civilizations that aren't a patriarchy to some extent (where men are considered more powerful then a woman who is otherwise equal, now of course a woman who has more money is going to be more powerful than a man who has nothing).

i'd argue it starts from our biology because men are genetically leaner/stronger than women who are equal in every way other than sex. (ie equally fit, equal diet, equal genetics, etc.)

and society sort of reflects biology of a species. i'd be interested in learning about any society that is the opposite of a patriarchy. i just think any primitive society will be male dominant, but as society becomes more advanced that is not so much the case although simple minded people will likely exist within advanced society forever and so the perception of patriarchy may exist even if the society has mostly move past that as a whole.


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Re: feminism and the patriarchy [Re: SurReality]
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Its a horseshit concept because for starters

1. women have equal rights under law
2. women get the house, kids, car, etc in a divorce. Guy gets to pay for it all
3. women have quotas at many places. Not "enough" women on the payroll and obumble will be on your ass.
4. the media promotes womens right constantly and puts them in the center of the photo when there is one.


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Re: feminism and the patriarchy [Re: Stonehenge]
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Yea I agree it's definitely moving far away from patriarchy in some countries. Especially in terms of government, but socially I think men have more power or respect.


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Re: feminism and the patriarchy [Re: SurReality]
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>socially I think men have more power or respect.

Respect has to be earned, it can't be legislated by politicians. Power flows from accomplishments and respect earned.


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“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.” (attributed to Alexis de Tocqueville political philosopher Circa 1835)

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Re: feminism and the patriarchy [Re: Stonehenge]
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Not necessarily. Maybe for some people that is true, I wish I could say most people.


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Re: feminism and the patriarchy [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said:
>socially I think men have more power or respect.

Respect has to be earned, it can't be legislated by politicians. Power flows from accomplishments and respect earned.




100 percent agree with this.


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Re: feminism and the patriarchy [Re: Mescalean]
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There are plenty of people who give others respect for no reason earned. Perhaps that is true about respect for yourself but do you really think the same is true about the respect a kkk member might have for someone?


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