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OfflineMoxyOx
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Re: Are you a feminist? (this question is for the dudes) [Re: Tantrika]
    #22237078 - 09/14/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

No judgement, my view of the world hasn't been changed by your video. What are you trying to say?


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Re: Are you a feminist? (this question is for the dudes) [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22237085 - 09/14/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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wouldn't it be cool if mixed race babies came out like zebra's?




That'd be pretty cool

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Re: Are you a feminist? (this question is for the dudes) [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22237241 - 09/14/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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What about Canadians?

And furries?

and LARPers?

I could go all day rattling off groups that are still fair game.  Weaboos?  Attacking straight white males is either done ironically, as part of an argument or debate, or perhaps in a paranoid way ala conspiracy theorists.  All of this is stuff we have to deal with in the modern age, thanks to an excess of self-important people and the internet.  One thing that has been proven so far, str8 males are no exception.  Capable of being just as childish and absurd, and of course people poke fun at this group, because everyone who sets out on a crusade to protect it ends up looking like an ass.



What bullshit.  Those are choices.  I cannot choose to not be a Caucasian heterosexual cis-male any more than you can choose to be one.  Look at the media.  Mock the minority community?  Get vilified.  Mock Women?  Get vilified.  Mock homosexuals?  Get vilified.  Mock transgendered?  Get vilified.  Mock straight white men?  Get applauded.




I cannot choose to be one?  Guess not, since apparently it entails being a whiny douche :lol:

I just don't see it, I see people choosing to make a big deal of things that do not matter to me in the slightest.  You are choosing to care about the plight of SWMs.

Some people mock gays, trans, and a wide variety of minorities and get applause.  The way I see it there are two ways to go about this:

-Be clever, original, and funny
-Appeal to retards

The problem with making fun of these groups is it is hard to put a new spin on it.  If you can put a new spin on some cultural stereotype regarding people, it will at least have some value to someone.

In terms of serious conversations, the fact that people who are sexist, racist, and whatever else that are becoming increasingly unpopular is a good thing.  Obviously some people are going to get butthurt by this because they're like  :herpyderp: "it used to wasn't be like this and now people are bigoted against racist.  I think that is the real racist" which I personally cannot get over how dumb it is, and I think in the end is a sign that things are changing for the better.  Good.


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Re: Are you a feminist? (this question is for the dudes) [Re: moonrockmushy] * 3
    #22237285 - 09/14/15 03:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

We aren't the whiners.  The women, the minorities, the homosexuals and the trans people are.  Actually most of them aren't doing the whining.  It is the academics and the press and the pandering politicians who make a living by dividing over identity politics.  It pays. 

We mostly don't give a fuck what the PC cunts have to say because we still rule the world but it is useful to point out the hypocrisy of the PC crowd.


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Re: Are you a feminist? (this question is for the dudes) [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22237327 - 09/14/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Its not so much bigotry against racism, its that people assume now "white single male" means some privileged little pussy. Being a single white male is almost equal to being a bigot now.

This is on the same level as me assuming every female is a rib stealing succubus.... It's more so the "we deserve special treatment" which is what modern feminism comes down too. Privilege over men.

if there is any group that entails being a "whiny douche" it's feminists.

and some of the men in here jesus fucking christ... rolling over on your belly to get fucked in the ass by some power hungry shrew who ha hated men most of her life. Maybe daddy touched her, maybe the boys in school just didn't pay enough attention.


There is nothing worse than seeing a little white girl claim "were oppressed" after driving away in a 60k BMW that daddy (a male figure, her father) or husband bought for her. Black card no limit, so oppressed. <-- seen this bullshit more than once where I live.


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Re: Are you a feminist? (this question is for the dudes) [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22237331 - 09/14/15 03:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
We aren't the whiners.  The women, the minorities, the homosexuals and the trans people are.  Actually most of them aren't doing the whining.  It is the academics and the press and the pandering politicians who make a living by dividing over identity politics.  It pays. 

We mostly don't give a fuck what the PC cunts have to say because we still rule the world but it is useful to point out the hypocrisy of the PC crowd.





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Re: Are you a feminist? (this question is for the dudes) [Re: Mescalean]
    #22237474 - 09/14/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

at the end of the day, who fucks who?


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Re: Are you a feminist? (this question is for the dudes) [Re: blackdust]
    #22237480 - 09/14/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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at the end of the day, who fucks who?





what is, everybody?


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Re: Are you a feminist? (this question is for the dudes) [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #22237523 - 09/14/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
We aren't the whiners.  The women, the minorities, the homosexuals and the trans people are.  Actually most of them aren't doing the whining.  It is the academics and the press and the pandering politicians who make a living by dividing over identity politics.  It pays. 

We mostly don't give a fuck what the PC cunts have to say because we still rule the world but it is useful to point out the hypocrisy of the PC crowd.




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Mock the minority community?  Get vilified.  Mock Women?  Get vilified.  Mock homosexuals?  Get vilified.  Mock transgendered?  Get vilified.  Mock straight white men?  Get applauded.




Yeah this totally sounds like someone who doesn't care, not a self-important bully who wants to have their cake and eat it too. 

Want to be accepted by minorities, homos, and trans?  Accept them.  Want to come off exactly like a whiny PC cunt minus the correct part?  Act like one of the countless misanthropes out there who goes on the internet to complain about things they claim to not care about in the slightest.

I don't even know what media you're talking about.  We might as well rail against the illuminati.  It's a fucking figment of your imagination, "the media".  Serious discussion on these topics does happen, but as far as the clickbait and pandering, trying to pretend that people who are into the anti-causes for the groups you seek to demonize are  innocent here is laughable.  Anti-feminism seems only to exist in over-consumers of media, and that is all they ever seem to talk about rather than address actual feminist stances.

I'm honestly not sure if MRAs really give a shit about the cause of men, because when it comes down to it I think most of them have the attitude you exhibit here.  It seems more like they see that this whole "equality" idea is popular with the youth or whatever, so they try to use the same tactics to suit their own needs, which are actually contradictory to any "social justice" cause.

Much like how the Nazis saw socialism and were like :strokebeard:"that communism thing the Jews came up with is really catching on, but we can't let the Jews come in and steal our brightest minds, let's see if we can take that and apply it only to Aryans".  That's how I feel when I listen to MRAs, like they just want to reformat misogyny using the language created by the civil rights movement, and it fools a surprising amount of people, which is disturbing I guess. 

Seems utterly transparent to me though, and while I'm really only a feminist in that I support women as equal human beings, I'm not really active in the feminist circuit, I will challenge these stupid anti-causes.  If anything, stuff like this makes me more inclined to search out feminist sources and consider new takes on things, so I guess it's not totally worthless, but in terms of being a worthwhile cause, it's a joke at best.  Once I start to hear it again and again like anything it gets old.


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Re: Are you a feminist? (this question is for the dudes) [Re: blackdust]
    #22237524 - 09/14/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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blackdust said:
at the end of the day, who fucks who?



I fuck everybody.  It's a lot of work


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Re: Are you a feminist? (this question is for the dudes) [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22237533 - 09/14/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:
Quote:

zappaisgod said:
We aren't the whiners.  The women, the minorities, the homosexuals and the trans people are.  Actually most of them aren't doing the whining.  It is the academics and the press and the pandering politicians who make a living by dividing over identity politics.  It pays. 

We mostly don't give a fuck what the PC cunts have to say because we still rule the world but it is useful to point out the hypocrisy of the PC crowd.




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Mock the minority community?  Get vilified.  Mock Women?  Get vilified.  Mock homosexuals?  Get vilified.  Mock transgendered?  Get vilified.  Mock straight white men?  Get applauded.




Yeah this totally sounds like someone who doesn't care, not a self-important bully who wants to have their cake and eat it too. 

Want to be accepted by minorities, homos, and trans?  Accept them.  Want to come off exactly like a whiny PC cunt minus the correct part?  Act like one of the countless misanthropes out there who goes on the internet to complain about things they claim to not care about in the slightest, which seems to be exactly what is going on here.

I don't even know what media you're talking about.  We might as well rail against the illuminati.  It's a fucking figment of your imagination, "the media".  Serious discussion on these topics does happen, but as far as the clickbait and pandering, trying to pretend that people who are into the anti-causes for the groups you seek to demonize are just as or more guilty of being disingenuous.

I'm honestly not sure if MRAs really give a shit about the cause of men, because when it comes down to it I think most of them have the attitude you exhibit here.  It seems more like they see that this whole "equality" idea is popular with the youth or whatever, so they try to use the same tactics to suit their own needs, which are actually contradictory to any "social justice" cause.

Much like how the Nazis saw socialism and were like :strokebeard:"that communism thing the Jews came up with is really catching on, but we can't let the Jews come in and steal our brightest minds, let's see if we can take that and apply it only to Aryans".  That's how I feel when I listen to MRAs, like they just want to reformat misogyny using the language created by the civil rights movement, and it fools a surprising amount of people, which is disturbing I guess. 

Seems utterly transparent to me though, and while I'm really only a feminist in that I support women as equal human beings, I'm not really active in the feminist circuit, I will challenge these stupid anti-causes.  If anything, stuff like this makes me more inclined to search out feminist sources and consider new takes on things, so I guess it's not totally worthless, but in terms of being a worthwhile cause, it's a joke at best.  Once I start to hear it again and again like anything it gets old.



Apparently you haven't seen many TV shows, movies or commercials since the sixties.


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Re: Are you a feminist? (this question is for the dudes) [Re: zappaisgod] * 1
    #22237548 - 09/14/15 04:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

feminists are stupid. end of.


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Re: Are you a feminist? (this question is for the dudes) [Re: ShortbusExplosion]
    #22237582 - 09/14/15 05:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Like I said earlier, theer are all kinds of different viewpoints among people who identify as feminists.  So much so that the word is bordering on meaninglessness.


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Re: Are you a feminist? (this question is for the dudes) [Re: ShortbusExplosion]
    #22237587 - 09/14/15 05:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:feelingfeisty: Takes one to know one.


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Re: Are you a feminist? (this question is for the dudes) [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #22237990 - 09/14/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:
:feelingfeisty: Takes one to know one.





See if shit were equal she'd be out on the ground cold for assault. But she's 100 lb blonde girl you want to fuck, so she gets special treatment. Yay feminism


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Re: Are you a feminist? (this question is for the dudes) [Re: Mescalean]
    #22238080 - 09/14/15 06:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Just you wait.  I heard when Hillary gets elected, which is inevitable considering the media, the feminists will replace Christmas with a new holiday called Cocksmash, where straight white men get their penises whipped and impaled by feminists :sadyes:


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Re: Are you a feminist? (this question is for the dudes) [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #22238106 - 09/14/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:
Just you wait.  I heard when Hillary gets elected, which is inevitable considering the media, the feminists will replace Christmas with a new holiday called Cocksmash, where straight white men get their penises whipped and impaled by feminists :sadyes:





Continue to roll over on your belly for them and zappa and I can just make it easier and remove your balls for you. The saddest part of this statement is although I know you are being sarcastic. This is a viewpoint of a lot of the extremists.

If a gender war is serious, the more violent would win. This is another horrible thing feminists do is provide a sense of false empowerment, not on the equality level too but the "your a strong independent woman who can take any man" yeah maybe if the dude is soft as baby shit. this is giving them some false sense of security in a physical bout which will not end well if blondie gets brave. and gets her face completely broken and caved in from a right hook by some monster she thought she could take on, because shes empowered.


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Re: Are you a feminist? (this question is for the dudes) [Re: Mescalean]
    #22238188 - 09/14/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

who are these feminists  you guys keep talking about and what do they look like


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Re: Are you a feminist? (this question is for the dudes) [Re: blackdust]
    #22238219 - 09/14/15 07:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

https://theworldofraven.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/feminist.jpg

one of the first images google brought up. has hate right in the slogan


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Re: Are you a feminist? (this question is for the dudes) [Re: Mescalean]
    #22239552 - 09/15/15 02:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

any and all people in counterculture movements, gender movements, any and all movements abounding across the gulf of parities, should be a votive people in the concernment mutual to all the general human species, and of that condition pertain to the benefits of everyone equitably, if they are to break from the herd to postulate their concern of their own differences to the whole.

there is no reason not to.


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