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Re: Death [Re: Shroomism]
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> Death is not the end. Death is just the beginning.

If death is the beginning, then what is life?


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Just another spore in the wind.

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Re: Death [Re: fireworks_god]
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Living matter is a fancy form of dead matter.

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Re: Death [Re: Seuss]
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Take that metaphorically
Life is a journey of experience.
Death is the journey's end, but not the end completely
There will always be another journey


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Re: Death [Re: Shroomism]
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> There will always be another journey

Indeed!  :smile:  Life is but a dream that we must all awaken from eventually.


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Re: Death [Re: EvilGir]
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What do you mean there is nothing you can do about death?! Your whole life should be a spiritual preparation for death. Life is for the Realization of the Real, and the clarification of just what is Real. If you are fortunate to live a long life, and you have used your time for what it is intended, then letting go of this life will not be a struggle. The greater majority of octagenarians (80 years and up) do not fear death. Moreover, there is less of your mind and body, and hopefully a whole lot of Pure Awareness to expand on and out...


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: Death [Re: Seuss]
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:sun:
Life is just a dream
Death is a transition
Set your spirit free
See you on the other side   


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Re: Death [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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"Your whole life should be a spiritual preparation for death."

I don't agree - I don't think one should spend one's entire life preparing for death. One should accept that one will eventually die, and move on with living their life.


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Re: Death [Re: Strumpling]
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spiritual reincarnation seems rather silly. i think more along the lines of atomic reincarnation, the cycle and such .... that seems like the ultimate recycling of the body, and although slighty depressing, i can only see the soul of a man as a big bag of burbling enzymes.

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Re: Death [Re: Tengu]
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Tengu said:
Living matter is a fancy form of dead matter. 


That is so stupid, no wait,.... its completely true! :grin: 

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Re: Death [Re: Strumpling]
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The ONLY preparation for death is by the moment-to-moment awareness of GOD's Presence. Living in the Eternal Now, or Practicing the Presence, or Being Here Now are various ways of describing this. It is the essence of a spiritual life and it is what religious man [Homo Religiosus] does with his/her existence. If you were consciously living a spiritual existence, you would have no disagreement at all. Without this depth of awareness, one is either living in one's past of memories, or in a state of anticipation of the future. In either case, one is trapped in fantasy - the labrinthe of one's thinking processes - and not living in Reality which is always NOW.

It is only after a lifetime of practicing how to dis-identify with one's temporality, and identify with the Eternal, is one's Earthly life as rich as it can be (for a rose is appreciated in good measure by the knowledge that it quickly fades), and is one already identified with the Goal. Anything that prevents one from being in the Presence is considered to be an evil. Therefore, a human being, living the life of a mere human mammal, which is to say, the life of the instincts: violence, greed for 'incorporation' (acquiring, consuming, possessing ), loveless sex, sleeping and sedating drug use are all examples of a non-spiritual and ultimately unfulfilled life, where everything is never enough. One becomes a 'hungry ghost' according to the Tibetan Buddhists and is consigned to the appropriate Hell state. But I have digressed...sorry about that chief.


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: Death [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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MarkostheGnostic said:
If you were consciously living a spiritual existence, you would have no disagreement at all. Without this depth of awareness, one is either living in one's past of memories, or in a state of anticipation of the future. In either case, one is trapped in fantasy - the labrinthe of one's thinking processes - and not living in Reality which is always NOW.



Amen, brotha! :grin:

Can't wait until I am focused enough to live in the eternal Now moment.. it takes awhile to be able to do it constantly.
Peace.


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Death [Re: fireworks_god]
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I am a materialist and I believe that our consciousness is simply electrochemical processes in our brains. When we die, we will cease to exist. We cope with the notion of death because there is no other choice. I think believeing in an afterlife is silly. Why do so many people have to fabricate beliefs in order to cope with death? Why can't people accept that there is nothing after life; absolutely nothing. So many wars resulting in so much bloodshed have been caused by religion, and religion is caused by pathetic humans fabricating beliefs to cope with the idea of death. (and a creator)

I cannot concieve what total nothingness is like, but I'd imagine it is like sleep with no dreams.

Actually, I kind of admire people who actually believe there is an afterlife. If I die and continue to exist afterwards, you can tell me what a fool I am :smile:

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Re: Death [Re: Zildjian]
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> I believe that our consciousness is simply electrochemical processes in our brains.

A very valid and logical belief... we are all just bags of chemicals...

> Why do so many people have to fabricate beliefs in order to cope with death?

Because losing a loved one is very painful.  The thought of an afterlife, of meeting up with dead loved ones, helps ease that pain.

> I cannot concieve what total nothingness is like

Nobody can.  :smile:

> I die and continue to exist afterwards, you can tell me what a fool I am

Your position is not foolish, but rather well thought out.  It is not foolish to be wrong, especially when there is no right.  Remember to keep your mind open and be ready to change your beliefs as your experiences in life dictate. 


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Re: Death [Re: Seuss]
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^^^^  So, according to this logic, I should be able to create a human being by combining the proper chemicals in the proper proportions with no egg or sperm...  right?

Or maybe I could dig up a bunch of fresh cadaver parts and sew them together and shock it into life with electricity... :smile:

If the afterlife is nothing...

then it will be nice to get some rest.

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Re: Death [Re: DoctorJ]
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> So, according to this logic, I should be able to create a human being by combining the proper chemicals in the proper proportions with no egg or sperm... right?

Correct. A simplistic view, but accurate none-the-less. (As far as I know, this has not been accomplished yet, even with simple forms of life. An interesting question, can life be created from inanimate objects/chemicals?)

I am not saying this is what I believe, but it is as good of a theory as any.


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Re: Death [Re: Seuss]
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This is one of the many reasons why I believe in both Intelligent Design AND Evolution.

Its obvious that life changes with the hand of natural selection. But I have a hard time believing that this is how it started. Throw some amino acids in a glass of water and thats what you have... amino acids in a glass of water. Life does not spontaneously create itself.

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Re: Death [Re: DoctorJ]
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exactly

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Re: Death [Re: Howardo]
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"I am a materialist and I believe that our consciousness is simply electrochemical processes in our brains"

True, but I bet Quantom Mechanics and multiple dimensions could probably prove otherwise. How do you know that there isnt something else connected to the brain that is operating on a diffrent vibrational rate that we cant see. I think this may be shown with DMT the spirit molecule.


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Re: Death [Re: Howardo]
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"I am a materialist and I believe that our consciousness is simply electrochemical processes in our brains"

True, but I bet Quantom Mechanics and multiple dimensions could probably prove otherwise. How do you know that there isnt something else connected to the brain that is operating on a diffrent vibrational rate that we cant see. I think this may be shown with DMT the spirit molecule.


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Re: Death [Re: EvilGir]
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jezu just earned himself a new rating
:smile: :smile: :smile:

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