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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: Strumpling]
#3413365 - 11/26/04 06:12 PM (19 years, 4 months ago) |
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that is a very good book
elsewhere on these boards i've recommended it
it covers about everything you might want and probably some you hadn't thought of
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Glacius
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gettinjiggywithit said: That where it gets spiritual. Someone who would go to violently attack another is acting out past rage of themselves being violently attacked. They were once 'victims' themselves. However, if someone has a gun to your kids head, you don't have time to ask them to lay on the couch and talk about their past and help them to heal it.
people who are in peace act in peace.
Did you know ALL persons in jail for violent crimes were physicaly abused as children????? that doesn't mean all kids who were physicaly abused go on to rage on others, but it does mean that all who rage on others were raged on at one point first themselves and were never taught how to heal.
How come no one was there to protect them when they were being brutalised as children? Without the transitional healing, they became the brutaliser to cope and compensate.
It's all so fucked up really.
Tool wrote a song about this. Its called prison sex. About someone who was molested as a child and is now a child molester. The lyrics are like" I have found some kinf of temparary sanity in this shit, blood and cum on my hands". Pretty fucked up. Its all so fucked up(I like that)
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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: Swami]
#18547541 - 07/12/13 06:05 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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i would kill out of revenge of the following:
1. raping a love one 2. molesting a child related to me 3. murdering a loved one
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Cyclohexylamine
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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: Apollop]
#18547566 - 07/12/13 06:14 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Apollop said: i would kill out of revenge of the following:
1. raping a love one 2. molesting a child related to me 3. murdering a loved one
8 year thread is 8 years old. Still, Swami threads are usually a good read. I don't think I have ever seen this one.
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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: spudamore] 1
#18548139 - 07/12/13 10:14 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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spudamore said: In what circumstance other than war/self-defense would you consider taking another's life?
maybe a close friend that would have terminal cancer, and in much pain.
What about a close friend with a severely sprained ankle?
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I could kill if a mod moved one of my threads.
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Cyclohexylamine
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OrgoneConclusion said: I could kill if a mod moved one of my threads.
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1ve5w4hu
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I don't have a problem with death. The world would be a better place without a lot of us. Animals don't know right from wrong; they just have instincts so everything they do is innocent and forgivable, but humans know right from wrong yet the majority of us repeatedly choose wrong. We buy clothes made by children in another country who work the equivalent of two full time jobs, pollute the earth, and support evil in general every day without thinking twice. I'll feel sorry about your death if you're a tent dwelling vegetarian who wears second hand clothes, but that's about it.
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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: 1ve5w4hu]
#18548318 - 07/12/13 11:09 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't have a problem with death.
As long as it is someone else's?
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but humans know right from wrong
Perhaps you will be the first philosopher in history to clearly demark the boundary, but I highly doubt it.
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anne halonium
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i dunno, im not as fast as i used to be.
peeps can really move when your trying to get them.
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Re: Are you capable of killing? (moved) [Re: Swami]
#18548381 - 07/12/13 11:26 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology.
Reason: How bout them apples?
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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: Are you capable of killing? (moved) [Re: johnm214]
#18548421 - 07/12/13 11:34 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Das.Hack
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You better watch your back John.
To answer the original question, I could kill if I needed to eat.
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Repertoire89
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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: Swami]
#18549046 - 07/12/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Swami said: In what circumstance other than war/self-defense would you consider taking another's life?
If the law wasn't an issue, I'd have killed a few people already. Had stalkers, have enemies.
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vladtepes
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Re: Are you capable of killing? (moved) [Re: Das.Hack]
#18549069 - 07/12/13 02:17 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mostly it depends on how long I abstain from mushrooms. But honestly if I abstain for a little to long I find no value in the lives of millions of immoral scumbags and want to torture them for decades mercilessly. Worse is if I channel into negative entities (whatever they may be) I get a big evil grin, an adrenaline rush, and the desire to rip people apart with my bare hands for fun, not out of hatred at all but for the sheer pleasure of it.
This is why I partake in the fruit regularly... I don't want to harbor such wrath, because logically I know it's wrong. But I get delusional when I have not taken the fruit and start philosophically justifying genocide on people I don't like. People such as, white/black/brown/yellow/red low life trash, cops, lawyers, judges, politicians, stupid people who think they are smart and right, brain washed people, followers, fallacious organized religious morons, the self righteous, the self centered, war mongers, people who spend more on a pair of shoes than most people make in a year, manipulators, those who disrespect nature and their fellow man... the list goes on... then I would kill myself for spilling so much blood, and the qualities that I abhor in myself and suffer eternally in an afterlife haunted by my victims...
But when I take the mushroom my wrath is lifted from my shoulders like a heavy burden removed. I forgive all, I love them, and I see their bad behavior as a defect in their psyche resulting from a world torn apart by hate, greed, and blood lust. I wish to only harbor the love given to me by the fruit, for my wrath causes me unbearable misery which I revel in when I forget the message of the sacred fruit.
Fortunately I am able to restrain my wrath for love of my family which never fades due to their presence in my life. A truly scary man is one who has lost all that he loves, and has no TRUE divine influence.
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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: Repertoire89] 2
#18549093 - 07/12/13 02:21 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Repertoire89 said:
If the law wasn't an issue, I'd have killed a few people already. Had stalkers
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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: johnm214]
#18549139 - 07/12/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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I once lived near a corn field. Stalkers were everywhere!
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Re: Are you capable of killing? (moved) [Re: vladtepes]
#18549193 - 07/12/13 02:51 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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vladtepes said: Mostly it depends on how long I abstain from mushrooms. But honestly if I abstain for a little to long I find no value in the lives of millions of immoral scumbags and want to torture them for decades mercilessly. Worse is if I channel into negative entities (whatever they may be) I get a big evil grin, an adrenaline rush, and the desire to rip people apart with my bare hands for fun, not out of hatred at all but for the sheer pleasure of it.
This is why I partake in the fruit regularly... I don't want to harbor such wrath, because logically I know it's wrong. But I get delusional when I have not taken the fruit and start philosophically justifying genocide on people I don't like. People such as, white/black/brown/yellow/red low life trash, cops, lawyers, judges, politicians, stupid people who think they are smart and right, brain washed people, followers, fallacious organized religious morons, the self righteous, the self centered, war mongers, people who spend more on a pair of shoes than most people make in a year, manipulators, those who disrespect nature and their fellow man... the list goes on... then I would kill myself for spilling so much blood, and the qualities that I abhor in myself and suffer eternally in an afterlife haunted by my victims...
But when I take the mushroom my wrath is lifted from my shoulders like a heavy burden removed. I forgive all, I love them, and I see their bad behavior as a defect in their psyche resulting from a world torn apart by hate, greed, and blood lust. I wish to only harbor the love given to me by the fruit, for my wrath causes me unbearable misery which I revel in when I forget the message of the sacred fruit.
Fortunately I am able to restrain my wrath for love of my family which never fades due to their presence in my life. A truly scary man is one who has lost all that he loves, and has no TRUE divine influence.
can u elaborate more on that channeling of negative entities you mention? maybe via a pm if you don't want to on this thread?
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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: Swami]
#18549705 - 07/12/13 04:51 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Swami said: In what circumstance other than war/self-defense would you consider taking another's life?
for Sport
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Cyclohexylamine
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Re: Are you capable of killing? [Re: johnm214]
#18549734 - 07/12/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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johnm214 said:
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Repertoire89 said:
If the law wasn't an issue, I'd have killed a few people already. Had stalkers
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