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Re: Opinion on the bombings today [Re: shakta]
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shakta said:
If you choose to believe that the terrorists are good guys, that is your right. Pretty loonie, but it is your right.


Yes, their actions are reprehensible, but that's why I asked if you had a better solution for the Iraqis that want their country back, so that they aren't labeled as "terrorists".

We killed people and destroyed buildings for our purposes, now they kill people and destroy buildings for their purposes. Yet we accuse them of being terrorists, because our cause of ousting Saddam was just, and their cause of taking back their country is "unjust". Most Iraqis seem to want independence, now how should they go about it? Asking nicely didn't work, by the way.


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Re: Opinion on the bombings today [Re: Cornholio]
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What UN member would ever contemplate sending peace-keeping troops to Iraq now? The men who are attacking America's occupation army are ruthless, but they are not stupid. They know that President George Bush is getting desperate, that he will do anything - that he may even go to the dreaded Security Council for help - to reduce US military losses in Iraq. But yesterday's attack on the UN headquarters in Baghdad has slammed shut the door to that escape route.


- Robert Fisk


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Re: Opinion on the bombings today [Re: Cornholio]
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You act like a majority of them are fighting back. That is not the case. I would venture to say that plenty of the Iraqis, will be glad to see the Iraqi resistance be wiped out. These are the same people that have been opressing them for years. I am not calling these people terrorists anyway. The terrorists are the people coming from outside the country to fight their jihad.

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Re: Opinion on the bombings today [Re: d33p]
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I don't think the UN tried very hard to stop us from going to war...


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Re: Opinion on the bombings today [Re: shakta]
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That is a nice generalization you make about the rest of the world. I frankly don't give two shits what they think. If you choose to believe that the terrorists are good guys, that is your right. Pretty loonie, but it is your right. Remember the amount of Germans that believed we set up 9/11? It must be true if they believe it.




Where has anyone actually said the terrorists are good guys?? Oh I see, if someone thinks the US are wrong then they must naturally think that their enemies are right. Unsurprisingly simplistic thinking.


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Re: Opinion on the bombings today [Re: shakta]
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shakta said:
You act like a majority of them are fighting back. That is not the case.


True, but I think that's because if they did fight back, they'd probably get killed.
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I would venture to say that plenty of the Iraqis, will be glad to see the Iraqi resistance be wiped out. These are the same people that have been opressing them for years.


Virtually every Iraqi that's been captured for fighting against US troops said they hate Saddam. They're just fighting against the continued US occupation.

If anyone can show that the majority of Iraqis are ok with the current US occupation, then I'd change my opinion in a heartbeat. I don't mean that they like us more than Saddam, because I know they do. I mean that they would prefer us in their country rather than out.

If your answer is "if we leave the country Iraq will go to hell", I say you are wrong, because the UN would take over. And that's what the Iraqis want. (LOTS of other articles that confirm this as well)


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Re: Opinion on the bombings today [Re: d33p]
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d33p said:
...the gift of actually being able to distenguish if someone is bad or good. Its a simple thing called common sense. 




Thank you for the lesson in human stupidity. :thumbup:


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Re: Opinion on the bombings today [Re: Azmodeus]
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You needed another one?

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Re: Opinion on the bombings today [Re: shakta]
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No, but it always amazes me to see someone who thinks they have the ability to judge right from wrong, and even moreso when they claim such a talent is 'common sense'! :shake:


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Re: Opinion on the bombings today [Re: Azmodeus]
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I was talking about the way you demonstrate human stupidity on a daily basis here. :smile:

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Re: Opinion on the bombings today [Re: shakta]
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:shocked:

:heart:= :frown:


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Re: Opinion on the bombings today [Re: shakta]
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yup, a score is twenty.

and I agree with wing nut, bombings are bad.

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Re: Opinion on the bombings today [Re: domite]
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What about a bomb exploded in space? :wink:



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Re: Opinion on the bombings today [Re: Azmodeus]
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J/K. Just because you don't agree with someones opinion doesn't make them stupid. Do you really believe no one can tell the difference between right and wrong?

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Re: Opinion on the bombings today [Re: shakta]
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shakta said:
J/K. Just because you don't agree with someones opinion doesn't make them stupid. Do you really believe no one can tell the difference between right and wrong? 



well there are certain situations which would appear to have a very definate answer.  The problem comes from people...we can manipulate each other, so the the very act of determining right , to me, seems like a precursor for doing wrong.  Do they both exist? possibly, but right and wrong is hardly more than a concept in our heads..a perspective, as the reality of the situation is often right for some, and wrong for others.  But to sit back and not act ever for fear of doing wrong with right intentions is wrong in and of itself, but so is action.....so really all that matters i guess is for one to do what they think is right....but therein lies the problem.....it seems a bit of a paradox to me... :confused:


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Re: Opinion on the bombings today [Re: shakta]
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shakta said:
J/K...



Now you tell me! :mad:  I already destoyed the nude photos you sent me....cutting out certain areas....burning them over candles.... :nut: such sweet memories destoyed forever....


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Re: Opinion on the bombings today [Re: Azmodeus]
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That is what you get for jumping the gun.

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Re: Opinion on the bombings today [Re: shakta]
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Im not worried...we'll make more... :wink:

any comment on the right/wrong rant?  do you see it a similar way?


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Re: Opinion on the bombings today [Re: Azmodeus]
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No I don't see it that way at all really. While I don't doubt that terrorists think they are right, the results of their actions seem pretty wrong to me.

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Re: Opinion on the bombings today [Re: shakta]
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you could say the same thing about us. The funny thing about terrorists and governments is that if you hear them talk, they often say the exact same things...

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