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Re: Bombs in the Building: World Trade Center 'Conspiracy Fa [Re: z@z.com]
    #3181775 - 09/26/04 02:02 AM (19 years, 8 months ago)

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Cervantes said:Link (From a credible source please... hell... Al Jazeera will do!)?




Hows Google? (Warning: By searching for such material you may be considered a terrorist)



I looked for some info on W199I-WF-213589 and I failed to find any evidence that the document even exists. Can you provide any?




Everybody knows... all of Bush's missing-super-secret documents begin with "W".


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Re: Bombs in the Building: World Trade Center 'Conspiracy Fa [Re: Rose]
    #3182151 - 09/26/04 10:16 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

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I looked for some info on W199I-WF-213589 and I failed to find any evidence that the document even exists. Can you provide any?




yeah, go back a page or two

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Cervantes said:Everybody knows... all of Bush's missing-super-secret documents begin with "W".





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Re: Bombs in the Building: World Trade Center 'Conspiracy Fa [Re: ekomstop]
    #3182457 - 09/26/04 12:42 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Welcome back!

ZAZ is looking for a copy of W199I-WF-213589, from a legitimate news source. The entire text, from beginning to end.

I've seen what you have presented in this thread. You have not presented W199I-WF-213589 and nobody else is able to find it.

There is no evidence that this bill "Really" exists.

Remember, in PA&L you should provide links.

Don't get upset at ZAZ just because he can't find W199I-WF-213589.

Link him to it.


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Re: Bombs in the Building: World Trade Center 'Conspiracy Fa [Re: ekomstop]
    #3182514 - 09/26/04 12:57 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

WTC 7 collapsed because of damage from WTC 1 and 2 collapsing.

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Re: Bombs in the Building: World Trade Center 'Conspiracy Fa [Re: Rose]
    #3182515 - 09/26/04 12:57 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

I posted the only photo I know of of the original document, and I highly doubt you are going to find george bush announcing this ingenious decision that was made in the name of 'national security' in any of his speaches. The fact that this order was made in the name of 'national security' should really make you wonder what his version of the term 'national security' (which he seems to use quite often) is actually supposed to mean. Again, this document was secret, and was leaked by former deputy FBI director John O'neil who died on Sept 11 on his first day on the job inside the WTC.

So can we assume this was just a co-incidence or what? You can call me a crazy conspiracy theorist all you want, but this is a fact. I posted a segment from a BBC NEWS report about W199I, among links to piles of articles referencing back to it..what more are you looking for? I have done enough digging around for information to satisfy your abstaining asses, if you are so sure it doesn't exist, then to be fair, I suggest you put a little effort into your argument and find a source suggesting otherwise.

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Re: Bombs in the Building: World Trade Center 'Conspiracy Fa [Re: ekomstop]
    #3182597 - 09/26/04 01:23 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, but I said, you should link ZAZ to the full text of the document, from a LEGITIMATE, objective, news source. Just 'cause you linked to the BBC doesn't mean your prescious BBC Link had the FULL TEXT... or any text for that matter. The link with the text was a conspiracy link. And if memory serves me... it was not the full text.

Hell, even a passing refrence to the document would do.

Have you tried Al Jazeera yet?

The problem with conspiracy sights is right in the title.

They are Conspiracy THEORIES. The people who run these sights wouldn't have Conspiracy THEORIES if they had PROOF. People at conspiracy sights rely on little to no evidence. This way, they can create THEORIES. THEORIES are not PROOF. Hell, some theories are pretty sound... the Theory of Relativity, the Patheagirean Theory... but often enough, Conspiracy = NO REAL EVIDENCE OR PROOF.

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Re: Bombs in the Building: World Trade Center 'Conspiracy Fa [Re: Rose]
    #3182640 - 09/26/04 01:36 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

In reguards to your BBC video link,

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/cta/progs/newsnight/attack22.ram

Why is there no BBC trademark on your BBC video link?

There are no credits.

There are no BRITS.

Show me where you found that link. It doesn't come up when you search the BBC website.

Why does nobody in the video or narration speak with an English accent?

This is NOT a BBC production.

BOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Bombs in the Building: World Trade Center 'Conspiracy Fa [Re: Rose]
    #3182758 - 09/26/04 02:06 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Alot of people have been conditioned to associate the word 'theory' with conspiracy, even when the official story is as good as swiss cheese in terms of probablillity.

When you take a look at a site such as this which has gathered all kinds of news articles from your beloved mainstream media which are clearly suggesting a conspiracy, how can you honestly still deny the mere possibility of one? You said yourself you agreed that there are many unanswered questions in regard to the event. Unanswered questions can in many cases point toward a possible conspiracy, can they not? The best genuine conspiracy theory I am aware of is probably the bush admins and mainstream medias explination of 9/11.

After an overwhelming ammount of warnings of a potential threat, hijackers who some of which were believed to have trained at US air bases (some of which are subsequently still alive today) were said to have took over multiple airliners in a relatively short timeframe using boxcutters as weapons; flying them into buildings right over a no-fly zone with NORAD standing down, not doing shit about it and then the media offering an 'explination' of everything on the same day suggesting it was all Bin Ladens fault..Of course, Bin Laden must have orchestrated everything, with no help what so ever from government insiders from his cave in Afghanistan. Afterwards reports claiming that American intelligence officials and high-ranking military officers said that Pakistanis/Taliban members were flown to safety post 9/11, in a series of nighttime airlifts that was approved by the Bush Administration. And then the Anthrax attacks which were shoved in your face repeatedly via the media, building up more hype for this rediculous war on terror, where then we find out that individuals in white house including the bush administration started taking Cipro weeks before the anthrax attacks..

Think any of this is not true? LOOK IT UP. I'm getting tired of trying to prove my point to people who are either not able to conceive of the possibility that a terrorist attack could have been orchestrated by elements in the government, or will simply just do anything to steer away from the facts to avoid conflict with the information they have already digested.

How about giving what they are counting on you not doing a chance, and take a minute and think about it? How 'probable' is all of this? Conspiracy? Theorys? Co-incidence? What?

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Re: Bombs in the Building: World Trade Center 'Conspiracy Fa [Re: ekomstop]
    #3182921 - 09/26/04 03:00 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

You're changing conspiracies again.

As for the "W" document,

I can't "Look up" what doesn't exist.

So I take it that wasn't an actual BBC production?

You are sooo good at ignoring the flow of your own thread.

When you write a post as long as your last one, in response to me, I'd like to think at least some of your time would be spent answering the questions I asked you.

1. Why is there no BBC trademark on your BBC video link?

2. Why does nobody in the video or narration speak with an English accent?

3. (not a question... but still) Show me where you found that link. It doesn't come up when you search the BBC website.

The video begins after the opening credits and ends before the closing credits... no BBC symbol is on the screen... what is the video even CALLED?


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Re: Bombs in the Building: World Trade Center 'Conspiracy Fa [Re: Rose]
    #3182971 - 09/26/04 03:20 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

I originally found the video here: http://www.ftlcomm.com/ensign/desantisArticles/2003_800/desantis820/truth.html

Link to transcript on BBC website: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/events/newsnight/1645527.stm

Remember, this was leaked information and the man who leaked it to BBC was killed. This is very volatile information, and I don't think BBC is about to announce it all over the news and their website as to cause all kinds of controversey in the minds of the public. I would still be happy to see something suggesting this information is innacurate, I'm sure BBC would aswell, as is said in their disclaimer towards the top of that page. So if you can find something, I'm sure quite alot of people would be thankful for that.

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Re: Bombs in the Building: World Trade Center 'Conspiracy Fa [Re: ekomstop]
    #3182991 - 09/26/04 03:26 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

So it isn't a BBC production?

Can you provide any legitimate links to the "W" document?

This is wasting my time.


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Re: Bombs in the Building: World Trade Center 'Conspiracy Fa [Re: ekomstop]
    #3183018 - 09/26/04 03:35 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)


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Re: Bombs in the Building: World Trade Center 'Conspiracy Fa [Re: ekomstop]
    #3183027 - 09/26/04 03:38 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

L E G I T I M A T E

O B J E C T I V E

Can you not read? I've seen those links, and the ABC link has nothing to do with anything.


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Re: Bombs in the Building: World Trade Center 'Conspiracy Fa [Re: Rose]
    #3183039 - 09/26/04 03:42 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Theres nothing left to debate here. Maybe if you re-read this thread you might get an idea of why I even bothered putting an effort into this discussion.

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Re: Bombs in the Building: World Trade Center 'Conspiracy Fa [Re: ekomstop]
    #3183052 - 09/26/04 03:48 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

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This is my third time posting this in this thread..take it or leave it.





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yeah, yeah..my bad. I'm just getting sick of 'arguing' over all this shit still..I think I might be about done here




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Re: Bombs in the Building: World Trade Center 'Conspiracy Fa [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #3183061 - 09/26/04 03:50 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

:shrug: :thumbup:

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Re: Bombs in the Building: World Trade Center 'Conspiracy Fa [Re: ekomstop]
    #3183078 - 09/26/04 03:54 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

:stonedjerk:

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Re: Bombs in the Building: World Trade Center 'Conspiracy Fa [Re: Rose]
    #3183104 - 09/26/04 03:59 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)


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Re: Bombs in the Building: World Trade Center 'Conspiracy Fa [Re: ekomstop]
    #3183112 - 09/26/04 04:01 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Changing conspiracies again?

p.s. lol


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Re: Bombs in the Building: World Trade Center 'Conspiracy Fa [Re: Rose]
    #3183117 - 09/26/04 04:02 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

You're too funny :smile:

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