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Anonymous

the terrorist threat is a lie!
    #2148877 - 12/01/03 11:01 AM (13 years, 5 days ago)

you know. i could get a semi automatic rifle, and make it automatic.

i could probably take it to a playground and kill some children. i'd end
up dying, but i could do it, and it would scare the living fuck out of
people, the community, all that.

i could make a small explosive and slip it into a car, affix it to its gas
tank, something of the sort. i bet it wouldnt be that hard to set a timer
to have that car explode in the middle of rush hour traffic.

i bet, in six months, if i spent all my time working on it, i could rig up a
hundred cars, and have shit exploding randomly all one afternoon.

then, if i had ten or twenty people across the country, all working for me
we could fuck up a whole world of shit, scare the hell out of people.

little things like these, things that come randomly, a car bomb in traffic,
shootings at public places.

the only trick would be autonomy, and minimizing communication.

i dont see any of this shit happening, and why not?

is it because its really a lot harder to do without getting caught?

is it that there arent any crazies in our country that are willing to die
to kill and terrorize americans? are we keeping them out of the country?

i dont know.. i dont have a clue. i know one thing, though.

americans are scared of all the wrong things, and if something
happened like i just described, there would be panic, hysteria, and
i'd bet we'd see legislation that made the patriot act look likeable by
comparison.

what do you guys think? is terrorism really a load of over hyped
crap used to justify the actions and desires of world leaders?

edit: i changed the topic to get more people to view the thread.
i realize its kind of misleading but i really want to know what the
more conservative members here have to say about this.


Edited by Anonymous (12/01/03 07:58 PM)


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Re: is terrorism a load of shit? [Re: ]
    #2148891 - 12/01/03 11:12 AM (13 years, 5 days ago)

I've been thinking the same thing recently. I mean, it seems to me that terrorism is incredibly easy to do. So why arent more people doing it!

Fuck going on a plane with weapons. Why not just have the Iranian Ju-Jutsi team come on and overpower everyone? You know?

I dont know if its overhyped, or maybe Arabs are just really really lazy.


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Re: is terrorism a load of shit? [Re: ]
    #2149148 - 12/01/03 12:54 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

what do you guys think? is terrorism really a load of over hyped
crap used to justify the actions and desires of world leaders?


for the most part, i think yes, but it's not entirely their fault. there's the sensationalist media, and ultimately, the people themselves.

"The average man does not want to be free. He simply wants to be safe." -H. L. Mencken


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Re: is terrorism a load of shit? [Re: ]
    #2149166 - 12/01/03 12:59 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

the threat is real


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Re: is terrorism a load of shit? [Re: infidelGOD]
    #2150137 - 12/01/03 07:37 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

keep telling yourself that.

I'm sure it will bring you comfort while the FBI
is secretly taking a shit in your bathroom at
night.


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Re: is terrorism a load of shit? [Re: afoaf]
    #2150178 - 12/01/03 07:50 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

hahaha.

seriously, though..

it all seems so easy? how come nothing is happening?

LDS and the more conservative members here contend that "WMD"
(more specifically biological and possibly chemical agents) could be
created with a basic knowledge of biology, lab work, chemistry, and
for under a $100k!!

and then they claim the methods to deliver them could possibly be as
simple as well placed vials in a subway system.

jesus folks, saddam had years to make this shit, set up plots, etc, etc.

so did osama, so did all these 'crazy suicidal terrorists' that are out there
to 'wage war' on freedom and all that bullshit they feed us.

if its so cheap and easy, and if any dumbass loser like myself can grasp
the easiness of it all, how come these maniacal, freedom hating, islamic
fundamentalists so intent on destroying our way life aren't out doing it?!

anyone?

edit; i cant type.

also, if im inaccurate about anything i claimed, someone tell me, i hate that shiat.


Edited by Anonymous (12/01/03 07:56 PM)


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Re: is terrorism a load of shit? [Re: ]
    #2150231 - 12/01/03 08:03 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

it's because the Patriot act has caught
everyone, right?


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Re: is terrorism a load of shit? [Re: afoaf]
    #2150238 - 12/01/03 08:04 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

Quote:

afoaf said:
it's because the Patriot act has caught
everyone, right?



Well not everyone. After all... you're still on the loose.


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Re: is terrorism a load of shit? [Re: afoaf]
    #2150267 - 12/01/03 08:12 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

hell, it might be. i sure dont know, hah.

i dont think afoaf is a threat to our security, lds.


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Re: is terrorism a load of shit? [Re: ]
    #2150274 - 12/01/03 08:14 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

He might be, lock 'im up.


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Re: is terrorism a load of shit? [Re: Phluck]
    #2150304 - 12/01/03 08:25 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

Quote:

Phluck said:
He might be, lock 'im up.



Just in case.


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Re: is terrorism a load of shit? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #2150352 - 12/01/03 08:41 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

why are there two men in black suits knocking
on my door right now?


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Re: is terrorism a load of shit? [Re: afoaf]
    #2150392 - 12/01/03 08:57 PM (13 years, 5 days ago)

Quote:

afoaf said:
why are there two men in black suits knocking
on my door right now?



Maybe they are selling cookies.


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Re: the terrorist threat is a lie! [Re: ]
    #2151079 - 12/02/03 01:18 AM (13 years, 4 days ago)

Quote:

immaculate said:i dont see any of this shit happening, and why not?




I think mostly cuz no one has a reason to do it. Generally life is good for those in North America so there's no reason to become a terrorist, unless the government fucked you over huge with property forfeiture laws... HMMM...

Quote:

americans are scared of all the wrong things,




Yep!

Awesome post man.


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Re: the terrorist threat is a lie! [Re: ]
    #2151235 - 12/02/03 10:15 AM (13 years, 4 days ago)

A very good point. Its almost like somebody is trying to keep us scared and submissive...or perhaps im just paranoid!


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Re: the terrorist threat is a lie! [Re: GazzBut]
    #2151384 - 12/02/03 11:11 AM (13 years, 4 days ago)

some say paranoia is knowing whats really going on.

thanks, pattern.


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Re: the terrorist threat is a lie! [Re: ]
    #2151451 - 12/02/03 11:39 AM (13 years, 4 days ago)

call me crazy, but I'm more afraid of what happens
when the gasoline runs out than I am about the
darkies on the corner or the level orange terror alert.


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Re: the terrorist threat is a lie! [Re: afoaf]
    #2151664 - 12/02/03 01:29 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

I think its the time between now and when the gasoline runs out we have to worry about. Something tells me we wont see too many wars fought over who controls clean and cheap energy....I hope anyway!


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Re: the terrorist threat is a lie! [Re: GazzBut]
    #2151680 - 12/02/03 01:42 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

ANWAR: Al-Qaida Are The US Government's Greatest Ally
Nov 29, 2003
by Rizvan Anwar

Let me start by saying that I am NOT a conspiracy theorist. I don't think Russia was involved in the JFK assassination, or that Area 51 is home to aliens. I am a rational person, who I like to
believe, thinks logically.

So let?s look at recent events in a logical way.

On November 20th 2003, London was gearing up for a huge protest against the visit of President Bush. The media had been hyping up the protests as the largest protests "ever seen against a head of State." More people were expected to attend than had ever protested against Saddam or Mugabe. However, Bush seemed unnerved. He would smile when asked about the protests and he said it didn't affect him at all. I couldn't understand this. This man was being told he was the most hated man on the planet, and yet he didn't seem to mind. Almost as if he 'knew' something no-one else did.

The news of Michael Jackson's sex scandals were given 2nd rate coverage in light of the protests, which would culminate in a ceremonious 'toppling' of Bush's effigy, to replicate the staged toppling of Saddam's in Baghdad.

I was thinking all the while, unless the world should end, there is no way Bush can divert the world?s media attention from this. If anything, there was nothing he could do, to avoid the British public from seeing that his war against terror was a phony war. I was hoping the world?s media would broadcast the protests and images of the toppling effigy would be beamed throughout the world. Bush's calmness unnerved me.

It just wasn't logical.

On 20th November, I woke up expecting the news to be full of the protests. But it wasn't. Someone had bombed the British consulate and HQ of the HSBC bank in Istanbul. At 09:10 GMT the first blast had gone off outside the HSBC HQ, and 2 minutes later, the second bomb went off. At 09:18 GMT, news channels in Britain were stating 'Al-Qaida has bombed the British consulate'.

I didn't understand. I watched the TV. to see how they had already figured out within 6 minutes that Al-Qaida had done this. I searched frantically and all I could find were statements being released that 'the bombings had all the hallmarks of Al-Qaida'. I wonder even now, what these 'hallmarks' are. I was at work and I joked to a friend that soon an e-mail would arrive at some Arab newspaper where Al-Qaida would accept responsibility. By lunchtime, a Turkish newspaper had received that
e-mail.

To this day, Al-Qaida hasn't accepted responsibility for 9-11, 'their crowning achievement'. The faked CIA tape of a fake Bin Laden, gloating about 9-11, has funnily stopped being shown on TV, since it was ripped to shreds by all who saw it. Al-Qaida hasn't owned up to any of the terrorist acts that it is blamed of. Not until the perpetrators are in custody, do any admissions come
out. The Bali bombings, the first WTC, the Karachi hotel bombings, the Kandahar hijacking, 9-11. Nothing. Al-Qaida just doesn?t do that. They don't admit they have done anything.

Well not until recently, well not until the US bombed Afghanistan and 'destroyed Al-Qaida's communications capability'. Not until, Al-Qaida's network has been dismantled, and the cells under close watch, and all communications between Bin Laden and his followers, is now being made via messenger boys on donkeys. When Khalid Sheikh was arrested, he even said that Al-Qaida was no longer using e-mails or telephones to keep in touch, as it was too risky, and the CIA had tapped everything. So I don't understand how these messenger boys send the e-mails
on their donkeys. It just isn't logical.

As the crowds gathered for the beginning of the protests, Bush and Blair gave a televised address to the world. They re-affirmed the war on terror, and cited the Istanbul bombings as an example of the kind of terror they were trying to fight. Bush seemed to have almost memorized what to say, through days of practice. He condemned the acts and in his now familiar stage voice told the invasion on Iraq was part of the fight against terrorism. I didn't know Saddam was part of Al-Qaida until recently. Actually, I don't think Saddam knew he was part of Al-Qaida until recently.

The news networks all over the world were showing the pictures of bloodied faces, and the carnage in Istanbul. There was a small side mention of the 150,000 protestors who had marched through London, and toppled the effigy of Bush. But nothing more. I sat there and watched Bush's interview again. The smile, the confidence -it was just perfect.

If ever there was a time that the US and UK needed an attack to occur against BRITISH interests, it was well at about 09:10 GMT on 20 November 2003.

Many commentators have said that the 9-11 attacks happened at the right time for the US. And I think it is even clearer today that the Istanbul attacks have happened at just the right time for Bush and Blair. Either Al-Qaida doesn't know what it is doing, or this wasn't Al-Qaida. Al-Qaida wants the world to see the evil that Bush and Blair are doing. And the protests would have done that. There was no need to bomb Istanbul. The only, and I reiterate ONLY, people to benefit from the bombings are Bush and Blair. They diverted attention from the protests to the 'terrorists'.

I wish I had terrorists like that on my side. The kind that bombs the UN in Baghdad, the day after the UN says that US forces should leave Iraq. The kind that bomb a Bali nightclub, the week 250,000 Australians took to the streets to protest the war. Its the kind that bomb a Riyadh compound full of Arabs, when Saudi Arabian citizens are beginning to become increasingly vociferous in their condemnation of the Iraq invasion and occupation.

Since 9-11, and some say including 9-11, Al-Qaida has practically done everything the U.S. government would ask its CIA to do. They have killed Muslims. They have killed their European supporters. They have timed each bombing to maximize the amount of criticism they will receive and minimize the support for their actions. Is that the actions of the 'biggest threat to mankind, freedom and democracy?? Logic tells me, that it isn't Al-Qaida at all.


Now tell me, what does logic tell you?



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Re: the terrorist threat is a lie! [Re: afoaf]
    #2151698 - 12/02/03 01:54 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

When the gasoline runs out they switch to the alternate fuel desings they already have, and make the most they can until the very end, as switching to alternate fuels is not profitable.


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