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Re: 10 PE ISOLATES [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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i wasnt asking why it blobs, i was asking why it wouldnt blob :wink:

ive done 2 different PE hpoo bags (from the same MS syringe) that ended up not producing any blobs at all. then one that flushed ONLY blobs 3 times :shrug:


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Re: 10 PE ISOLATES [Re: fungitarian]
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You answered it yourself. Multi-spore.


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Re: 10 PE ISOLATES [Re: Violet]
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I'm well aware of the results of multispore. I was asking what factors, other than MS/iso, would make PE fruit blobs consistently or not at all. The reason I asked is because i've seen tons of first flush blobs and not much else when it comes to MS.


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Re: 10 PE ISOLATES [Re: fungitarian]
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It wouldn't blob because you got one of the rare instances where your PE genetics that won the MS battle weren't prone to making any :shrug:

I have a couple isolates like that.


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Re: 10 PE ISOLATES [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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FrankHorrigan said:
It wouldn't blob because you got one of the rare instances where your PE genetics that won the MS battle weren't prone to making any :shrug:

I have a couple isolates like that.


oh well. fruits weren't too impressive anyways.. :drunk:


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Re: 10 PE ISOLATES [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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So anyone have an accurate story of how PE came about? If PE is a mutation, how do its mutant genetics transfer through its spores consistantly?


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Re: 10 PE ISOLATES [Re: Sillyputty67]
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in my experience with pe and straw over the years you only get one flush and they are all normal except for a few. great job hacker!


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Re: 10 PE ISOLATES [Re: Sillyputty67]
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malicom said:
So anyone have an accurate story of how PE came about? If PE is a mutation, how do its mutant genetics transfer through its spores consistantly?


The story of PE


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Re: 10 PE ISOLATES [Re: PrinceShroom]
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PrinceShroom said:
malicom said:
So anyone have an accurate story of how PE came about? If PE is a mutation, how do its mutant genetics transfer through its spores consistantly?


The story of PE



This has been discussed many times. It's bullshit.
Vice magazine is not a good source for information.

PE is a genetic mutation. You can see the phenotype every so often in non-PE multispore grows. It's just not very common.

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Re: 10 PE ISOLATES [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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FrankHorrigan said:
PrinceShroom said:
malicom said:
So anyone have an accurate story of how PE came about? If PE is a mutation, how do its mutant genetics transfer through its spores consistantly?


The story of PE



This has been discussed many times. It's bullshit.
Vice magazine is not a good source for information.

PE is a genetic mutation. You can see the phenotype every so often in non-PE multispore grows. It's just not very common.


Im just going by what another TC says...:shrug:
13 seems to think this story is valid


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Re: 10 PE ISOLATES [Re: PrinceShroom] * 1
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He's entitled to his opinion too :thumbup:

I'm just saying that the article reads like a piece of sensationalist BS.


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Re: 10 PE ISOLATES [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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FrankHorrigan said:
He's entitled to his opinion too :thumbup:

I'm just saying that the article reads like a piece of sensationalist BS.


I agree...
That was the only thing ive ever seen on the origins of PE.


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Re: 10 PE ISOLATES [Re: PrinceShroom]
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Thanks for posting this NAH420.  I've always wanted to run a similar experiment, but never had the time or space for it.

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Re: 10 PE ISOLATES [Re: grainbrain]
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Ive heard everything from its RR's crossbread of pan/cube to It just appeared from the wild one day. I have no clue. I would like to think its a result of someones tinkering. It would be nice to know what strain originally mutated into what we now know as PE.

Im having a hard time with the whole mutant spore thing. For example if I took a GT, fruited it, found a mutant, got its spores, germed those spores, id have GT's again, and not mutants. Is this line of reasoning correct?


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Re: 10 PE ISOLATES [Re: Sillyputty67] * 1
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malicom said:
Im having a hard time with the whole mutant spore thing. For example if I took a GT, fruited it, found a mutant, got its spores, germed those spores, id have GT's again, and not mutants. Is this line of reasoning correct?


It was a cubensis species. Each mating of two hyphae from different spores creates a new strain.
I would imagine it would be better to find the mutant, clone it, and isolate the genetics. Fruit those, find the mutants, take the spores. Germinate the spores, fruit them, repeat.
Do this enough times and I bet you'd have a decently cooperating mutant variety. It'd probably take years.
I'd imagine this is how PE came to be.
There's nothing mystical or crazy about it. It's just a cube. Again, you can see the phenotype in mutants of just about any other variety of cube. They are rare though.


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Re: 10 PE ISOLATES [Re: Sillyputty67]
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I,ve seen similar mutants growing amazon many times. I severely doubt it's a crazy story. the story is probably pretty simple. someone(one of the first fanatic's) probably saw a mutant in a first flush and clones it. weird cubes happen in just about every grow I've ever done.


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Re: 10 PE ISOLATES [Re: Sillyputty67]
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I understand it to be collected from a wild specimen.  To whoever it was that sees occasional "PE" mutants in normal cubes, what happens if you cultivate from those?

:peace:PS


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Re: 10 PE ISOLATES [Re: FrankHorrigan]
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FrankHorrigan said:
malicom said:
Im having a hard time with the whole mutant spore thing. For example if I took a GT, fruited it, found a mutant, got its spores, germed those spores, id have GT's again, and not mutants. Is this line of reasoning correct?


It was a cubensis species. Each mating of two hyphae from different spores creates a new strain.
I would imagine it would be better to find the mutant, clone it, and isolate the genetics. Fruit those, find the mutants, take the spores. Germinate the spores, fruit them, repeat.
Do this enough times and I bet you'd have a decently cooperating mutant variety. It'd probably take years.
I'd imagine this is how PE came to be.
There's nothing mystical or crazy about it. It's just a cube. Again, you can see the phenotype in mutants of just about any other variety of cube. They are rare though.


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Re: 10 PE ISOLATES [Re: Sillyputty67]
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Updated OP with Pics of DAY 20.


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Re: 10 PE ISOLATES [Re: PussyFart]
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:holyshitbubbles:

:peace:PS


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