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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: TedsDead]
#27850797 - 07/05/22 05:29 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Hello, I am currently culturing ape plates to do a grow. I was wondering if you have experience with apes and if that differs from regular PE, I was planning on following your recipe on page 1 to a T. I figured there isn't much variance.
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: Shruma]
#27850869 - 07/05/22 06:18 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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They abort more, and need a 1/2 inch or so of casing like reg PE. They generally take longer. I recommend APER It grows like a reg cube with none of the cons of normal PE/APE but retains potency. I added a really good tek for ya to checkout too.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26140339/vc/1
https://www.mushrooms.com/albino-penis-envy-reverted-cubensis-mushroom-spore-print
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Quick question regarding casing:
For my first PE grow I used a MSS from a reliable vendor=>agar=>LC=>rye. On 7/10 I spawned to 7-quart shoeboxes using liners and a 1:3 ratio with a coir/vermiculite substrate hydrated just to the damp side of field capacity. Room temp has been consistent at 70 degrees F. The mycelium tore through the substrate and I added the first 1/2" casing layer of pasteurized Jiffy Mix on 7/14.
Today, 7/24, I can see some mycelium starting to poke through the casing but the boxes on average look about 10-20% colonized on the surface at best. I know that PE grows more slowly than regular cubes but is it normal for the casing to take so much longer that the substrate to colonize? Not that I'm in a hurry, mind you, but I don't want to add the second casing layer too early.
EDIT: Never mind. I reread the entire thread for the 4th time and found my answers on pages 8 and 14. Seems like it's OK to add the 2nd layer after 20-30% colonization of the 1st.
Edited by Intrepid (07/24/22 08:04 PM)
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: Intrepid]
#27878729 - 07/27/22 02:02 AM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Let us know how it turns out. Sounds like its going well๐
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: TedsDead]
#27880730 - 07/28/22 05:51 PM (1 year, 7 months ago) |
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Here's the current state of the project.
Growth really took off during the past 24-48 hours. The box on the right is lagging behind a bit but the casing layer may be a little bit thicker on that one. The box in the middle has colonized more quickly and as you can see from the following photo pinning has already started. That actually took me by surprise when I checked the boxes a few minutes ago.
So, is it too late to add the second casing layer? A timely response would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: TedsDead]
#28307872 - 05/05/23 02:05 PM (10 months, 17 days ago) |
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Doesnt the large casing colinization time increase the chance of contams setting in from the grain?
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: Giff25]
#28308182 - 05/05/23 07:35 PM (10 months, 17 days ago) |
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Not if you use wet marbles or gel beads
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: rumfor69]
#28309460 - 05/06/23 06:16 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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gotcha, also all in all how long roughly does it take from start of casing to pinning?
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: Giff25]
#28309503 - 05/06/23 07:04 PM (10 months, 16 days ago) |
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Depends on the culture but generally 3-4 weeks with swpe but sooner can definitely happen
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Re: PE... by TedsDead [Re: fahtster]
#28310200 - 05/07/23 11:48 AM (10 months, 15 days ago) |
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good to know
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