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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
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mycophat: The only country I know of that isn't a capitalist country is Bhutan.

what about cuba?


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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
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wushu does look cool....hmmm gymnastics...


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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: mycophat]
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"And exactly how do I know this......well simply because I know for a FACT that there are forms of martial arts and fighting techniques 100's of years old with wich one could kill another human being in an instant with just a slight touch or manipulation that have remained a secret (and probably will for another 100 at least) never to be even spoken of outside of the "clan" never mind taught to us foolhardy capitalists.......And I wouldnt have it any other way. "

Do you mean "Dim Mak" ? I don't think these techniques are secret any more.
Try http://www.dimmak.net

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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: smurg]
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i think that site pretty much sums up what we have been argueing, the guy leaks some info, (for money), but doesnt keep all the traditions of the style, people only want the 'good stuff' (the actual, KO'ing and killing)


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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
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{Dogomush} ["Well, I don't think I'm moronic. I'm smart enough to know that China is a capitalist country pretending to be communist and Japan"]

No China IS a communist country,and wether or not they are pretending to be is your opinion, and if you cant tell the difference between fact and opinion then perhaps your not as smart as you thought you were.


["and Japan.. communisT? Never. Atomikfunksoldier will enjoy explaining why China is a capitalist country."]

You started out nicely with this one your are correct I was wrong about Japan I was mis-assosiating The Japanese Communist Party with its actual ruling party.
But then you go and fail to see the difference between opinion and fact again (even if it is someone elses opinion)


["I pointed out that India is a rabid nuclear power and that China's a fucked up country and all that because I was reacting to you making a sweeping statement:

where as the eastern ( and by eastern I basicly mean Indian/asian) are much more respectfull,spiritual culture."]

Wait for it...wait for it....Perhaps you were right here as well, although the statement was more vague than sweeping. I simply meant the "culture" and not necessarily the people in general.

["The following statement you made shows that you do agree with me:

Not all of China,India,or Japan (just to name three) are what I would call "Masters of the arts" in fact the number of TRUE masters teaching only the teachings of their clan to their clan are so few that they could probably be counted on one hand (just an example that is not meant to say that there is only five left but they are very far and few between) .

So we're both in agreement. You can't just declare an entire continent as being more spiritually in tune than the rest of us. "]

Again you are mistaking a "culture" with its people. While the people of China,Japan,and India may have become more westernized or Americanized their "Culture" has actually changed very little over the years (especially when concerning true martial arts which was what the discussion was about before it became a political debate by the way)

{Atomikfunksoldier} ["wow maaaaaan.....you need to travel. japan is just as materialistic as the rest of us....and china, spiritual? hahahaha."]

You too seem to not be able to distinguish a people from their "culture"

["mycophat: The only country I know of that isn't a capitalist country is Bhutan.

what about cuba?"]

I'm not sure where you are trying to go with this one. This was a comment made by your friend Dogmush and not myself, perhaps if you had read the post correctly instead of just jumping in just for the sake of arguement you would have known this.

{Smurg} The Dim Mak was one of many formerly secret fighting techniques that have been "leaked" from its original origins but it is not actually a complete fighting form as it has been changed little by little in the transition and differs greatly (even in its name) depending where you learn it. But because it has degraded as it has been passed around it is not as efficient as its original form.



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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: mycophat]
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I like argueing about terms

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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: Dogomush]
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To get this back on track you should pull back some of your statements on how I'm a moron now that you see what I meant when I said that China wasn't communist. You disagree with me on this point, of course, but you see what I meant. You see that I wasn't ignorant of China's communist status.

No China IS a communist country,and wether or not they are pretending to be is your opinion, and if you cant tell the difference between fact and opinion then perhaps your not as smart as you thought you were.

You say it's a fact that China is communist. That's your opinion. Remember there are more than one way to look at things. My opinion is that China is not communist, therefore to me it is a fact that they are not communist. I'm well aware of what they and most people think they are.

"culture" and not necessarily the people in general.

Welcome to back to the zone of ill-defined terms. American culture is about freedom, and yet their people aren't free. What's their culture then? A free one or not free?

Again you are mistaking a "culture" with its people. While the people of China,Japan,and India may have become more westernized or Americanized their "Culture" has actually changed very little over the years (especially when concerning true martial arts which was what the discussion was about before it became a political debate by the way)

I have no idea what you're trying to say here. You just gotta define some terms for me before we can communicate I guess. You say that their culture concerning martial arts has changed very little over the years? I disagree. Ever since China combined traditional wushu with the Russian gymnastics program, there's been a diffferent emphasis on their martial arts from fighting technique to performance. Standardized taiji quan (ie Yang 24) is more about making pretty movements. This is very different from 300 years ago when it was a popular body guard style. Martial arts culture has changed a lot. There are obviously lots of people training the real deal still, but ever since the boxer revolution martial artists everywhere have come to accept the impracticality of their martial arts as fighting systems in the world of guns.

But anyway, let's drop the political stuff because it's not really what we're talking about.

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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: Dogomush]
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btw there's a starbucks in the forbidden palace... communist?

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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: Dogomush]
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"You too seem to not be able to distinguish a people from their "culture"

what????? that makes no sense at all.

are you talking about your romanticized version of ancient japanese culture? or......what?


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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
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Wow, this thread is too long for me to read anymore. I think I'll go raising the water outside under a tree, while facing east.


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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: Shroomism]
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sounds good man I'm gonna go get a qi snack

Edited by Dogomush (04/28/03 02:01 PM)

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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
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Let me start from the begining at least as far as the disagreement between Dogomush and I.....

{Dogomush}"The only country I know of that isn't a capitalist country is Bhutan"

Ya see it that one simple statment was the cause of most of our arguement simply because I believed ( and still do) that it in itself was (and still is) one of the most idiotic statements I had heard in a long time.

Even your friend Atomikfunksoldier (who I have read only a few of his posts but seems to argue just for the sake of arguement) did not agree when he posted:
["mycophat: The only country I know of that isn't a capitalist country is Bhutan.
["what about cuba?"]
But rather than presenting me with an actual arguement all he (or she) did was to prove my point (all be it by accident) that there was more than one country in all the world that was communist.

So now lets pick up where we left off......

{Dogomush} ["I like argueing about terms "]
It has become painfully clear that both Atomikfunksoldier and yourself both seem to like to argue simply for the sake of arguement. (never been that bored myself but to each his (or her )own.

{Dogomush}["To get this back on track you should pull back some of your statements on how I'm a moron now that you see what I meant when I said that China wasn't communist. You disagree with me on this point, of course, but you see what I meant. You see that I wasn't ignorant of China's communist status."]

No I still disagree with you and do not see what you mean especially when your very next post shows your ignorance of not only China's communist status but your (seemingly) outlook on the difference between the facts and your opinion when you state

{Dogomush}["You say it's a fact that China is communist. That's your opinion. Remember there are more than one way to look at things. My opinion is that China is not communist, therefore to me it is a fact that they are not communist. I'm well aware of what they and most people think they are."]

So let me get this straight you seem to think that because something "in your opinion" is right then it automaticly is no matter what the facts? Well while your feeling godlike would you legalize mushrooms and marijuana in the U.S. for me?

Oh and by the way I did notice that you contradicted quite nicely I might add in your ignorance of China's status.


{Dogomush} ["American culture is about freedom, and yet their people aren't free. What's their culture then? A free one or not free?"]

No personaly I dont think that America has any "culture" of its own as there are so many people of different nationalities with their own "cultural" origins that its all rather muddled ,and if I were to say that America has a culture of its own then perhaps "pop culture" (and I dont truely recognize this as a viable culture) for lack of real culture.

Oh and as far as America not being free I could not agree with you more.


{Dogomush}["You say that their culture concerning martial arts has changed very little over the years? I disagree."]

Was it not what 30 or 40 some odd years ago that Bruce Lee was not only shunned but threatened with death because he wanted to bring his style of martial arts to the west?Hmmm...yep it was
Was it not 20 or 30 years ago completely unheard of for a Shaolin monk to be teaching the arts in the greater California area?Hmmm...yep it was.

You and Atomikfunksoldier both seem to believe that materialism is a part of and has something to do with a people's culture,but it does not for the most part it is simple human nature to want the same things as the next guy (and sometimes more) A people's culture has more to do with their traditions,beliefs,food,art,music,and practices than it does wether or not they are materialistic that is more of a personality trait again going back to human nature.

{Dogomush}["btw there's a starbucks in the forbidden palace... communist?"]

Yep and Canada's health care plan could be considered communal does that automaticly make them communist?...no because the instances that you and I mentioned do not change the status of a country nor define its people. They are choices plain and simple.

{Atomikfunksoldier}[""You too seem to not be able to distinguish a people from their "culture"]
["what????? that makes no sense at all. "]

Unfortunatly I'm afriad I dont have the time to explain in depth the sociology and philosophy behind a poeple's culture and the sometimes amazing difference between it and its people. And knowing how the two of you like to argue so much that is probably a debate in itself.

{Dogomush}["But anyway, let's drop the political stuff because it's not really what we're talking about."]

Again I couldnt agree with you more.



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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: mycophat]
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"Unfortunatly I'm afriad I dont have the time to explain in depth the sociology and philosophy behind a poeple's culture and the sometimes amazing difference between it and its people. And knowing how the two of you like to argue so much that is probably a debate in itself."

the in-depth sociology and philosophy eh? hehehe......thats a really silly way to end an argument "its too complicated for me too explain".

your statement was innacurate. there is no difference between a person and his culture, culture..in modern capitalist-democratic countries is individualized, each person chooses their own culture, thusly you cannot apply broad generalizations to large amounts of people.

your statement was very vague, thats why im interested in what you meant by it.


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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
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It has become painfully clear that both Atomikfunksoldier and yourself both seem to like to argue simply for the sake of arguement.

hehe if I just like to argue for the sake of arguement why am I the one trying to get us back on track by having you define some of your terms?

Unfortunatly I'm afriad I dont have the time to explain in depth the sociology and philosophy behind a poeple's culture and the sometimes amazing difference between it and its people.

Seeing as you don't want to bring this argument beyond a misunderstanding of terms by explaining yourself, well.. I guess you're the one who wants to argue for the sake of argueing. Not to mention your last lengthy post was a continuation of the confusion over terms. All you needed to do was get a dictionary..

I've made numerous posts asking you to go beyond insults and loaded undefined words like "culture" and you refuse to do so. You have no respect for me so I choose not to continue playing your little game. If you won't take a second to try to bridge the communication gap then you'll just have to accept that I won't radiate my divine intellect and allow you to bask in the enlightening brilliance of my glorious existence. I apologize in advance, and I wish you luck in the dark stagnant swamp that is your lonely egoist mind.

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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiities [Re: Ellis Dee]
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As a long time practitioner of Souther Short Fist Systems I have never seen this type of touchless movement of power. Psi?...... balls!!

http://www.yellowbamboo.com/

Truth or fiction? who is to say.......


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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiities [Re: NewSpore]
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they do fall a bit dramatically don't ya think??? Looks like some TellSell-ad as well.... :smirk:

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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiities [Re: quemo]
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lol psi-balls, suuuuuuuuuuuuure.

manipulating body temperature and perhaps other bodily systems that are 'automatic'? Thats possible, and its a fact.

learning to KO people with your mind, maybe. But what good is knowing how to do that? what kind of "enlightenment" is that other than being able to walk around thinking "i can knock you out". Knowing how to kill people with a hand jive is fine and dandy, its all human potential.

I think the guy who knocked is friend over with a psi-ball is either a] full of shit or b] is in the Yellow Bamboo Association (which is bullshit)

:laugh:

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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiities [Re: mdiesel]
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True, the greatest fighters that have true abitlity to damage the body, have the ability to heal it, foremost.


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