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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: blaze2]
    #1485592 - 04/23/03 09:34 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Hey blaze Psipog.net is a 3 person "opinon" site. That site was created based on some documents 3 people wrote up over years of playing with psi. To say that unless the knowledge of "knocking people over" isn't at the website, then it doesn't exist, is isn't right. PsiPog will tell you, there no experts of the knowledge psi. The real experts of the knowledge are the goverment. They founded the studys, all psipog done, was look up the remote viewing information the goverment done along time ago.

Yes, i was going to say the same thing, about wicca. All through time any psi energy usuage was socery, magic or witchcraft.

Psi-balls may be new, psiballs are only a manifisation of psi. The people of the east (tibet, or china) could have used psi, just not in psiball form.

Once ALONG TIME AGO(many thousands of years ago), the earth was inhabitated with race that, all they did was use "the force/psi/chi". (why argue over whats the right way to call it, just as long as we know what were talking about)


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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: blaze2]
    #1485844 - 04/23/03 11:10 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

And you are the divine chi master?
No, sorry, I did not lie. I played with the ball for a few minutes and shot it at my friend as an experiment, I didn't expect anything to happen, but he felt it hit and he definately was pushed back. I found chi and psi to be closely interwoven through my own experiences with them.

And what do you mean chi is not used in combat? Obviously you have never heard of Tai Chi, Dim Mak, Hsing-chen, Pa Kua, or any numerous other internal arts which rely heavily on the use of chi in combat.

To me, psi and chi are the same thing, or very similar. They are both energy, which travels through your body, and can be projected. In my perspective, chi and psi are two different ways of describing the same thing. East and west. West has chakras, nervous system etc.. East has chi cavities, meridians etc.. it's all pretty much the same thing in different perspectives.

I'm no Psi master, but I only account what happened. I have been studying the internal arts for many years, and Psi balls just seemed to be a natural expansion on the same energy.

Have you heard of Qi-Gong? There are chi exercises in which you project the chi outward to effect the environment..the first exercise is to point your finger at a candle in a draft free room, and shoot your chi at it to manipulate the candle. Have you seen the NO TOUCH KNOCKOUTS?

Chi is the same as Psi


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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: Shroomism]
    #1486323 - 04/23/03 01:44 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

And what do you mean chi is not used in combat? Obviously you have never heard of Tai Chi, Dim Mak, Hsing-chen, Pa Kua, or any numerous other internal arts which rely heavily on the use of chi in combat.

You and I have very different views. I've never seen a Tai Chi player shoot chi. I've trained with a former North American push hands champion (among other qualifications), and although he can touch your hand and connect through your arm up to your inner ear and cause you to fall off balance (which of course is amazing) he never talks about pushing over his opponents using Chi balls. I've also trained with a guy who is the North American lineage representative of 6 harmonies Shing-yi and has direct connections to other lineages in Chen style Taiji. He's a deadly fighter and can knock people out by kicking them in the ankle, but he never talks about shooting chi. He talks about structure. Holding your body in a strong and efficient way so you're able to knock people away wherever they touch you. One time a hippy girl mentioned something about seeing lines of energy all around her while practicing Taiji, and he told her she was burning her retinas and then ignored her. By definition Chi is impossible not to "use" but the way you're talking about it misrepresents these practices.

Have you heard of Qi-Gong? There are chi exercises in which you project the chi outward to effect the environment..the first exercise is to point your finger at a candle in a draft free room, and shoot your chi at it to manipulate the candle.

This is a classic way we westerners bastardize eastern things. To us Qi Gong has to be a practice giving us supernatural powers a la hollywood. I've never come across a Qi Gong practitioner who trains these sorts of things except advertisements in lame magazines. I know a guy who takes off his shirt in the middle of the summer revealing his oh so white upper body to the harsh sunlight and trains outside all day. He doesn't get sun burned (something to do with his attitude in absorbing the sun thanks to qi gong training) but when confronted with something like qi gong guys dousing candles from a distance or monks bending swords on their necks he shakes his head and says "silly qi gong tricks."

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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: Dogomush]
    #1486368 - 04/23/03 01:55 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

I've never come across a Qi Gong practitioner who trains these sorts of things except advertisements in lame magazines

Dr. Ying Jwing Ming..a very respectable Qi Gong/Tai Chi/Gong fu teacher

To us Qi Gong has to be a practice giving us supernatural powers a la hollywood.

No, I merely mentioned that aspect of it in regards to someone elses reply about Chi not being projected. Qi Gong is a very dedicative art that balances the inner energies for health and fitness.

I think you misunderstood me. I don't claim chi as only for outward projection, that would be silly. Chi balancing is mostly an internal affair, for connecting to the cosmos, grounding with the earth, and harmonizing the energies within. Chi can be projected, but that is not it's primary use. What I meant is that it can be projected, not that that is it's primary purpose.

Silly Qi Gong tricks or not, they are real.


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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: Shroomism]
    #1486401 - 04/23/03 02:08 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

All right I'll settle into a temporary ceasefire and look into some stuff

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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: Dogomush]
    #1486421 - 04/23/03 02:14 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Dr. Ying Jwing Ming is where I have gotten most of my knowledge on Qi Gong and Tai Chi. I studied under him for a few months last year in MA. If you look I am sure you will find he has the credentials and respect.


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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: Shroomism]
    #1486523 - 04/23/03 02:42 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

yeah I've got a few books of his... Haven't found a reference to what we are calling psi balls though.

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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: Dogomush]
    #1486533 - 04/23/03 02:44 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

but then I'm guessing he's taught you about this candle excercise?

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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: Dogomush]
    #1486551 - 04/23/03 02:48 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, he taught me the candle exercise, but not Psi balls. There is no mentioning of Psi balls in any of his books or teachings, and I don't see why there should be either.


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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: Shroomism]
    #1488720 - 04/24/03 08:31 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

to claim ki is not used in combat is insane.
the inner life force energy ki/chi is the main aspect of MANY real martial arts (not western sporty martial arts mind you).


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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: SHiZNO]
    #1488894 - 04/24/03 09:48 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Yes


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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiities [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1489572 - 04/24/03 01:13 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

i have some questions here:

Whats the difference in Clarvoyance, premonitions, and pre-cognition. There all about the future correct?

How could one develope such an ability like that, if i ever saw the future,... it basically just came to me, it isn't anything i can do at will. Ive heard of trancing, does anyone know more about this.

Shroomism i though you said, you've made a visible one before? it was green?

*Tripping makes energy work easyer to sense, for example, i tryed to create a psi-ball and the energy flow through my arms, was greatly felt, you all should try psychedelics+energy workings = (possibily, greater success)* Visualization was speedy, and quick to set up.


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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiities [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1489657 - 04/24/03 01:43 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

My fault, I did have a glowing one once, though I was tripping at the time and it was the first one I tried. Haven't had one to glow after that, so I was thinking that perhaps it was just my tripping.

As far as Clairvoyence.. that is seeing a far away place through the mind's eye, premonition is a feeling that something bad in the future is going to happen, and pre-cognition being the same as Clairvoyence, for something that has not yet happened. At least that's what my brain tells me.


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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiities [Re: Shroomism]
    #1490826 - 04/24/03 07:12 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Pre-cognition doesn't have to be about somthing bad. I've occasionally known the victor and score of a sporting event before it happened.


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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiities [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1491420 - 04/24/03 10:41 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

When i get high by myself i am always gathered around by beings from a higher vibration, which in turn send me phsycic imprints i call them, like thought bubbles that come from nowhere, and are brilliant thoughts!!! the beings appear like 3d shadows.

we are moving into a higher vibration, and this means spiritual effects, heightened abilities, thats when we realize the oneness with humanity, utopia. of course this was all planned by the lot of us before we came to earth, think of the dna, who planted it on earth, who are our creators?

and you know what else, all time is now, you are now currently dead, i bet you didnt know that either? so there is no afterlife, all time is now, the only hell is not knowing this.



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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: ViBrAnT]
    #1491551 - 04/24/03 11:40 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Vibrant you blow...... my mind.

I haven't heard so many dogmatic assumptions spewed forth like half-digested bean curd since last time I imagined what the inside of a church I'd never been to was like and an imaginary preacher shouted things at me.

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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: Dogomush]
    #1491812 - 04/25/03 12:59 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

I CANT SPELL! if you have a problem, dont read my post.

Jesus people... who was the clown talking about "I know people can change their tempitures because i saw it on t.v."?

how exactly do you SEE a tempiture change?
Not everything that is said on t.v. is true.

shroomism, even if you are not lieing(which i really doubt), have you concitered the chance that your friend was just fucking with you? i mean, you say that he did not know what you were doing but if someone does a "hadoken" move at you, you can pretty much figure out what is going on.

lets see, who else's claims did i want to refute?

oh yea!
"typical western scientist 'ill belive it when i see it' attitude"

with so many religions, idieolegies and other "isms" floating around, you cant belive every interesting idea that comes your way, can you? so you do one of two things:

1) accept the beliefs of your peers

2) use logic and common sense to attempt to disprove a given idea, and if you fail, and this idea is based on other information you have accepted, you temporarily consiter it true.

if you cant see, hear, feel, smell or taste it, why would you belive it exists?

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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: domite]
    #1492033 - 04/25/03 03:22 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

check this out:

our reality isnt really our reality, but actually, its um....some other shit...or whatever...whatevs...evs....ev...e............


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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1492381 - 04/25/03 08:38 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

domite , i think a few thousand years of practice tends to argue that there is some truth to it.
Oh, and science has proven it to be true, we know we have these electrical pathways thru our body, its how we function.


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Re: Learning to develop your chi/life force, psychic abiitie [Re: SHiZNO]
    #1492708 - 04/25/03 10:33 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

i belive that there is energy emitted from the human body, and i accept the possiblity that it could be controlled, but seriously, if one or two years of trianing allowed you to shoot a hadoken, then i think people would know about it. Hell, if I could do it, i would show it off, wouldent most people?

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