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OfflineWh0r420WaNg
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Does this make sense? Newbie needs help...
    #1366963 - 03/11/03 07:21 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

This may seem like a stupid question to the more experienced growers here, but I want to start out for the first time growing shrooms and I'm not sure of how fungus spreads so excuse my stupidity. Since psychoactive shrooms grow naturally on cow manure (this may be a rumor i've heard) or some other animal's crap, wouldn't it make sense that you could grow shrooms straight from that? I'm trying to find a way around buying spore prints and such because I don't want anything sent through the mail to me (even if it is relatively safe). So basically I'm just wondering if it is possible to grow shrooms without the spore prints, any kind of help would save me a lot of time. I've looked all over for the internet for shrooms but all i can find is links to companies selling kits and spores. Thanx all.


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Re: Does this make sense? Newbie needs help... [Re: Wh0r420WaNg]
    #1366987 - 03/11/03 07:31 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

it's kinda like a pot plant... you can't really grow one without the seeds.. sure you might find one in nature, but you can also find shrooms in nature..

if your looking for shrooms, but dont feel like growing them, you might want to go hunting for them, after you learn what to look for of course...


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Re: Does this make sense? Newbie needs help... [Re: Trife]
    #1367002 - 03/11/03 07:35 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Does this make sense? Newbie needs help... [Re: Trife]
    #1367015 - 03/11/03 07:37 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I understand that, but what I'm asking is how do they end up growing naturally? How do the spores spread? And if they grow naturally on the crap, wouldn't everything you need be right there unless the spores got spread from another shroom? sorry about the confusion...also I'm wondering if any strains or species of psychoactive shrooms grow naturally in PA, and if i should look in cow pastures or forests or where?


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Re: Does this make sense? Newbie needs help... [Re: Wh0r420WaNg]
    #1367036 - 03/11/03 07:42 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/faq.phpi hope this helps  :smirk:read it ALL 


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Re: Does this make sense? Newbie needs help... [Re: Wh0r420WaNg]
    #1367043 - 03/11/03 07:44 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I'd like to save you time, but cultivating shrooms takes a lot of just that. If you desire something less conspicuous, I would recommend looking for a spore print in the Marketplace forum, and reading about spore syringe making in the FAQ section. It'll take some time, but it's really worth it :grin:


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Re: Does this make sense? Newbie needs help... [Re: Wh0r420WaNg]
    #1367190 - 03/11/03 08:27 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Dude, thats like saying you have some chicken feed, but no eggs and you are wondering why chickens just don't just show up.
Mushrooms grow from spores. Differing slightly but mostly the same concept as the tree growing from a seed.
To answer your question "how fungus spreads"
Mushroom grows from mycelium and drops spores>
Spores float through air and onto sutable substrate( thats the stuff it lives in, i.e. dirt, poop...) and germinate (sprouts)>
(without getting too technical here,i.e. karyogamy)
and grow mycelium (mycelium- is our tree equivalent to roots) consuming the substrate until the environment is sutable for fruiting (making mushrooms) and the mycelia knots up and up pops a shroom, and whole process repeats itself.

And they do naturally grow on cow poop, but so does a lot of other nasty bacteria and fungi, So if you took home a chunk of poop and threw it in your terrairium, you would probably grow somthing, but the chances that it will be psilocybe cubensis are next to nothing. And chances are whatever you do grow could be hazardous to your health. I highly do NOT reccommend this procedure.

To answer another one of your questions:"is possible to grow shrooms without the spore prints" you could obtain a live tissue culture, which is just living mycelium in water (www.sporeworks.com sells some gormet and novelty strains), but I doubt that you will find anyone (outside of a criminal) who is willing to send you a live culture of Psilocybe cubensis(most common trippy shroom), due to the fact that cubensis mycelium contains the illegal substance Psilocybin (the stuff that makes you trip).

One other thought, consider why you are worried about safly ordering spores. One thing you can do is just have them sent to a buddy's house. But, if your reason has anything to do with not wanting your mother to find them once they do get to you, consider maturing a few more years and getting your own place where you can do what you want (and face your own consequences)
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what do I know anyway with my 10 posts..


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Re: Does this make sense? Newbie needs help... [Re: Wh0r420WaNg]
    #1367286 - 03/11/03 08:54 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm wondering if any strains or species of psychoactive shrooms grow naturally in PA, and if i should look in cow pastures or forests or where?



I think that is a question for the Mushroom Hunting forum.


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Re: Does this make sense? Newbie needs help... [Re: SemperUbiSubUbi]
    #1370103 - 03/12/03 05:53 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

aight everyone, thanx for the help. sorry about my dumbass confusion wit everything, i guess i kinda compared shrooms to mold that grows on food and crap...u guys just made me realize thats becuz probably the yeast in the bread and stuff so i think im straightened out on this issue. aight thanx everyone for the help wit everything. l8r on headz.


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Re: Does this make sense? Newbie needs help... [Re: Wh0r420WaNg]
    #1370962 - 03/12/03 10:51 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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aight everyone, thanx for the help. sorry about my dumbass confusion wit everything, i guess i kinda compared shrooms to mold that grows on food and crap...u guys just made me realize thats becuz probably the yeast in the bread and stuff so i think im straightened out on this issue. aight thanx everyone for the help wit everything. l8r on headz.



Dude yeast has nothing to do with why bread gets moldy (yeast is bacteria), mold has spores just like shrooms, spores are microscopic (sooo tiny you can't see them) and they float through the air, land on your bread and germinate and grow.
Maybe this will help you
Heres a little more technical explanation.
Too technical?
Hopefully I helped


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Re: Does this make sense? Newbie needs help... [Re: Wh0r420WaNg]
    #1370968 - 03/12/03 10:53 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

one more thing I think I should add is that mold is fungus too.


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