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Re: Attention Newbies-Use Foil to make a sporeprint! [Re: Zen Peddler] * 1
    #558072 - 02/21/02 01:16 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Bluemeanie, you're completely right. Light, unless extremely intense, will not destroy the spores. HOwever, it will make them more suceptible to decomposition, and if stored for a long time, they may become less viable because of light exposure. The same goes with heat exposure-anything extreme relative to the growing condiitons of cubes can denature the spores, but moderate heat in the short run doesn't really affect the spores.


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Re: Attention Newbies-Use Foil to make a sporeprint! [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #558109 - 02/21/02 01:59 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

The prints that Catzeye has been complaining about were from me. When he complained to me in a PM about them being too light for his needs, I send replacements... one of which was a GT (in the baggie). Many of you have recieved my prints. They are printed on heat sterilized typing paper, folded and all edges taped and labeled. I send decent and multiple prints in all my trades. If the prints he recieved were both printed by morons, I feel honoured, as the GT in the baggie was an excellent print I recieved from Anno.
Seems to me the only prints Catzeye will be satisfied with are his own! No offence Catzeye, but my printing methods have been working well for me for many years, using paper and cardstock. We all have our own preferences for printing methods. I suggest if you only want to trade for prints on foil, you state so in your posts when asking for trades.

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Re: Attention Newbies-Use Foil to make a sporeprint! [Re: Shdwstr]
    #558115 - 02/21/02 02:05 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

To borrow a phrase from my buddy K.o.o.s., WORD!


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Re: Attention Newbies-Use Foil to make a sporeprint! [Re: Shdwstr]
    #558222 - 02/21/02 07:03 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Catzeye is a her - i hope she doesnt mind me stating so.
Ive used prints that were so light that you could barely see prints on them and they were inbedded heavily in the cardboard - i couldnt see spores in the syringe, but it worked out fine anyway.
At the end of the day, i wouldnt go out on a limb and blame the print before i questioned my own technique - if its your own technique in the end, you dont come up with egg on your face :tongue:


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Re: Attention Newbies-Use Foil to make a sporeprint! [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #558301 - 02/21/02 09:34 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I think heavy duty tinfoil is best for prints. Just wipe it clean with alcohol right before printing on it. It dries fast, and is ready to print on. Then folded in half with the other 3 edges folded over. Taping the edges kind of blows for the end user, i find it makes it frustrating to get open without fuckin it up. All of Lil' Shop's prints are on foil, edges folded, sealed in small 2" x 2" zipper baggies. The baggies are cheap. Like $5 for 1000 of them at www.papermart.com. I've used prints that were on index card, wax paper, etc. without problems, but just prefer heavy foil the best.


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Re: Attention Newbies-Use Foil to make a sporeprint! [Re: night train]
    #558317 - 02/21/02 09:53 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Attention Newbies-Use Foil to make a sporeprint! [Re: ralphster44]
    #558322 - 02/21/02 09:56 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I thin k most of us use foil. It's really good.


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Re: Attention Newbies-Use Foil to make a sporeprint! [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #558345 - 02/21/02 10:19 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Well, these are all interesting posts. Everybody seems to have their preference. The reason I posted this is because I'm tirred of getting crappy prints from people. I have prints from a couple of you guys. Some of your prints really sucked compared to the ones I sent you. Some of them were not that great but usable. If I send you a fat ass print I expect the same in return. Blue....this post was not directed at you. It was meant for everyone. Your prints were not great but they weren't as bad as some of the other prints I've recieved. You and I have already discussed the problems I was having and we resolved the issue. There's no need in re-iterating our discussion. I still don't think paper is as good as foil for making spore prints. Unless the paper has a smooth coating on it the spores are not going to stick well while they are being shipped. If you people don't belive what I'm saying I will whip out my digital camera and take some pictures of the spore prints I've recieved recently that suck. You can judge for yourselves. Also, for newbies foil is better. Because foil has a greater surface area than paper the spores stick better to it. At least that's my theory. Glass would probably be better but not everyone has access to glass slides...foil is cheap and easy to find. I don't doubt that there are certain kinds of paper that might work well. Certainly wax paper is better than regular typing paper. Anyway, all these are interesting ideals. Gotta run, I'll write more later.

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Re: Attention Newbies-Use Foil to make a sporeprint! [Re: phrozendata]
    #558353 - 02/21/02 10:27 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

I have received prints from T.H.E., Sporeworks, and Ralphster, and the vast majority were on either paper or index card, probably 85% of the time. The rest were on foil.


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I'm not a Girl, Foil Spore Prints Rock! [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #558536 - 02/21/02 01:41 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Bluemeanie, I'm not a FEMALE! Stop telling everybody I'm a chick! LOL! I'm male and have the anatomy to prove it. Besides, pumps hurt my feet. Silly Sausage!
Hey if you guys want to trade paper prints that's fine with me. I'm just making a statement about the fact that the paper prints that I have recieved are not as good as foil ones when shipped through the mail. Actually, I have told several of the people I trade with that I prefer foil. At the time, I didn't know these paper prints were going to be so bad or I would have asked for foil only prints to begin with. Obviously, not everyone uses foil (unfortunately.) There are plenty of hard to find strains out there that were made with paper so I'm not totally against using them if they're decent...I'd rather have foil though. There's nothing wrong with my teks. Truth, be known, I learned most of my teks from you guys.

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Re: I'm not a Girl, Foil Spore Prints Rock! [Re: Catzeye]
    #558747 - 02/21/02 05:25 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

opps! Dont know why i thought you were a chick - dont know where i got that idea from. The prints i sent you werent that great?? From a tassie print half that size i managed to get 8 syringes that were dark as.
Anyway - its all cool - foil at the end of the day is good because the print doesnt get smudged or imbedded in it.


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Re: I'm not a Girl, Foil Spore Prints Rock! [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #558766 - 02/21/02 05:39 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

why doesn't everyone do it whatever way they wish, and before you trade with someone state the type of prints you will accept (either foil, paper, or both). That will end this long, drawn out thread.


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Re: I'm not a Girl, Foil Spore Prints Rock! [Re: Papa_Smurf]
    #558964 - 02/21/02 09:27 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

No it's not the end of a long, drawn out thread. I think he's talking about the prints I sent him. I've sent tons of these things out, and dude, you're the only one who has complained. I sent you four prints - 2 Equadorians & 2 Matias Romeros. All four were printed on heavy card stock that was pre-wrapped in tin-foil and heat sterilized for 30 minutes at 300?C. Sure some of the spores may have fallen from the card stock but I'm sure they didn't go anywhere as they would have all been in the foil. All of these were very similar in size to this print so I'm sure there were plenty to work with:



After reading some of the replies of other people you've dealt with, I can be assured the problem isn't on my behalf.

Now it's the end of a long, drawn out thread.


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Re: I'm not a Girl, Foil Spore Prints Rock! [Re: Papa_Smurf]
    #559313 - 02/22/02 03:42 AM (18 years, 9 months ago)

thank you for papa smurf's insightful bullshit


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Foil Spore prints still rock. [Re: Nighted]
    #559676 - 02/22/02 01:34 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Nighted, I wasn't specifically talking about your prints although I wasn't pleased with a couple of them. Not that all of them were bad and I never said all of them were bad. Your obviously a very experienced mycophile and I have no doubt about your credibility. I never mentioned anyone's name when I was expressing my opinions about the bad spore prints I've recieved. However, some of you felt compelled to admit that you were the culprits. Also I hear a lot of you complaing about the fact that I wasn't happy with your prints but I don't hear a single one of you saying anything negative about the prints I sent you. Why don't you tell everybody here on this thread what my prints looked like? I'm not into bashing other people on the group. I just want to let everyone know that I've had some bad prints come in on paper and that the foil prints I've recieved are in perfect condition. It's one thing to complain about bad prints and another to destroy someone's reputation. Hey people I'm not trying to be an asshole here I'm just sharing my experiences and opinions about spore prints. I have no doubt that most of you are excellent shroomers I just think that some of you could use a little more care when making your spore prints. There are a lot of people in this forum who share my opinions about using foil for making spore prints. What makes the Shroomery so awesome is that it's made up of a community of different people with varying shades of insight. The spores are sacred things that should be handled in the best way possible. Foil is excellent for making spore prints, paper is not as good. And that's all there is to say.

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Foil Spore prints still rock, but so do paper... [Re: Catzeye]
    #559691 - 02/22/02 01:44 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Will there be a "Detailed Catzeye?s Foil Printing Tek" in the future? Perhaps it would be interesting to have something around, with pictures and stuf, to help newbies out.


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Re: Foil Spore prints still rock, but so do paper... [Re: Anno]
    #559759 - 02/22/02 02:53 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Anno, that's a good sugestion. I will work on putting something together. I'll think about it this weekend while I'm at the lake conversing with the shrooms. Have a good weekend everyone.

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Re: Foil Spore prints still rock. [Re: Catzeye]
    #559881 - 02/22/02 04:43 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

No offence, but now I no longer care who you were talking about. I understand that you were probably disappointed and upset when you created this post but I think you just insulted a lot of people. You don't like our prints, fine. I don't think you'll be getting anymore from some of us. Why? Look at what you said! Now which of us were you actually referring to?:

"This one dude sent me a GT print and it was the same exact way. Printed on paper and placed in a tiny little baggy. All the spores stuck to the inside of the baggy so I had to use my scraper on the inside of the baggy to get the spores out. There goes my sterile print! What really pissed me off was that this was a replacement print. The first one he sent me was completely blank! I think all the spores fell off the paper and got stuck to the tape around the print. Morons! This is what happens when Science and Stupidity meet. LOL! Well, the only way to stop Stupidity is to educate."

"Making a print like this is just an example of a lazy person who doesn't have the time or motivation to create something that's sterile and easy to keep sterile."

"The reason I posted this is because I'm tirred of getting crappy prints from people. I have prints from a couple of you guys. Some of your prints really sucked compared to the ones I sent you."

"I'm saying I will whip out my digital camera and take some pictures of the spore prints I've recieved recently that suck."

And since we're being so "anal"ytical:

Stupidity x 2
Suck x 2
Crappy x 1
Lazy x 1
Morons x 1


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Re: Foil Spore prints still rock. [Re: Nighted]
    #559912 - 02/22/02 05:05 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Regardless of who's prints you were talking about, I agree with Nighted. You've obviously offended several people here and I for one, will spare you the dissapointment of recieving prints from me again. It seems you have been swamped with bad prints from everyone. Maybe this would be a good reason for you to learn Agar techniques... a small or light print has never been a problem for me.

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Re: Attention Newbies-Use Foil to make a sporeprint! [Re: Mygnyl]
    #559970 - 02/22/02 05:49 PM (18 years, 9 months ago)

Printing on a playing card then folding it in half tape it up works very well.


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