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Addiction to luxury leading to enslavement of society.
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The more luxury we want, the more we need to work. But as TV's are getting bigger and bigger, we will have to work more and more.

The problem here is; men's behavior decides society, but women decide men's behavior. A diamond being a girls best friend leads to men having no choice but to become rich by any means, even if it means going to africa to enslave the black people to make them dig diamonds. 

We men are nothing but peons on the chessfield. The only thing we want is women, therefore, we have no choice but to obey their commands. What women want decides society. So we are basically being enslaved by our own counter-parts.

Thoughts?

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Re: Addiction to luxury leading to enslavement of society. [Re: Diaboleros]
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I don't think anybody decides to try to make it big souly for the reason that they need to buy a ring in order to get a woman. (revised in next post)

Giving a woman a ring is a symbolic act of your dedication.  You do not need to be rich, it's like the bible story where a poor woman donates one penny, and richer people judge her donation, but jesus says something along the lines of that one penny was all she had.  I'm obviously taking liberties with this story, but the idea is that acts of dedication are relative to your means, and a woman can understand that.  You do not need to be rich to find a woman.

Your concept of men control society but woman control men isn't entirely accurate, we both influence the world in our own way, neither of us being truly in command.


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Edited by Smitington (10/02/09 07:32 AM)

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Re: Addiction to luxury leading to enslavement of society. [Re: Smitington]
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I'de like to add that we seek to obtain what we value, if we seek to obtain the kind of woman that comes with being rich, than we will seek to become rich and find that woman.  Everybody has different values.


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Re: Addiction to luxury leading to enslavement of society. [Re: Smitington]
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Smitington said:
I don't think anybody decides to try to make it big souly for the reason that they need to buy a ring in order to get a woman.


I disagree.  Being a senior in college, I have recently realized that there is a minimum salary that I have to make per year in order for my girlfriend to stay with me for life.  I agree with Diaboleros, we are the victims of natural selection at work.  Hell, we use evolutionary thinking to explain why male peacocks have such an extravagant and fruity display of feathers.  Male peacocks can't fight with their feathers; they can't use them to obtain food or shelter.  Why would a peacock waste energy on growing colorful and symmetrical feathers?

The answer:  chicks dig it.  The best females have chosen to be attracted to peacocks with the most beautiful display of feathers.  If a male wants to reproduce, he has no choice but to go along with the female's expectations of what is a suitable mate.

Mother nature is a bitch.


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Re: Addiction to luxury leading to enslavement of society. [Re: Newfound_wonder]
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Women just want to feel special and know that they are being taken care of.
A diamond is purely symbolic of wealth. Women want diamonds because they are expensive and last forever.

People want luxury because is makes them feel like they are royal, or more valuable than other people.

You can attain that through genuine means, such as being proud of what you do and having friends who appreciate you and make sure you are not left behind. But most people are just plain old joes and cannot hope to acheive much more with their lives than to count dollars in the hopes that they will have more than their neighbor.

most 'luxuries' people desitre these days are PURELY symbolic. People spend their money in ways that provide them with symbols of the upper class. All people want is to feel like their life is 'good' or 'worthy', and so they buy things that symbolise success.

Remember, capitalist consumerist society is an invention of wealthy people, and in order to make it work, they needed to make people believe that they need to earn money, and thus work. In order to convince people they need money, you need to make them believe that the things you are selling them are actually worth something.

Well most things for sale are pointless and debilitating. But people need to buy them, so a hell of a lot of effort is put into making things desirable.

This is done by turning products and services into SYMBOLS of desirability.

You don't have to fall for it though.

Stop buying stupid shit and instead save up for your own home or something really useful that will allow you to provide for a family.


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Re: Addiction to luxury leading to enslavement of society. [Re: Diaboleros]
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These ideas are based in IMO misguided gender issues.


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Addiction to luxury leading to enslavement of society. [Re: fireworks_god]
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Some but not all women are materialistic, I think its a result of rich fathers spoiling them, but that would just be my guess.  My GF couldn't be farther from that though.  If you don't want to perpetuate bullshit materialism, find a girl who doesn't care about money (do your part in evolutionary selection).  They are out there, and will make children like themselves.

Edited by xFrockx (10/02/09 08:47 AM)

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Re: Addiction to luxury leading to enslavement of society. [Re: xFrockx]
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When one starts thinking in this way, not only is the sight of truth lost, but ones own goals.

If Love is what one does seek, no amount of money will buy it. Patience and attaining personal goals will bring one things one has no control over, like someone else feeling love for one.:thirdeyeani:


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Re: Addiction to luxury leading to enslavement of society. [Re: Diaboleros]
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Diaboleros said:
The more luxury we want, the more we need to work. But as TV's are getting bigger and bigger, we will have to work more and more.

The problem here is; men's behavior decides society, but women decide men's behavior. A diamond being a girls best friend leads to men having no choice but to become rich by any means, even if it means going to africa to enslave the black people to make them dig diamonds. 

We men are nothing but peons on the chessfield. The only thing we want is women, therefore, we have no choice but to obey their commands. What women want decides society. So we are basically being enslaved by our own counter-parts.

Thoughts?


A really weak argument. However I do generally agree with your title for this poorly thought out thread.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Addiction to luxury leading to enslavement of society. [Re: Diaboleros]
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Diaboleros said:
The more luxury we want, the more we need to work. But as TV's are getting bigger and bigger, we will have to work more and more.

The problem here is; men's behavior decides society, but women decide men's behavior. A diamond being a girls best friend leads to men having no choice but to become rich by any means, even if it means going to africa to enslave the black people to make them dig diamonds. 

We men are nothing but peons on the chessfield. The only thing we want is women, therefore, we have no choice but to obey their commands. What women want decides society. So we are basically being enslaved by our own counter-parts.

Thoughts?


I used to believe this.
Now I think that any woman who would accept a blood diamond is not someone I'd like to marry.

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Re: Addiction to luxury leading to enslavement of society. [Re: MisterMuscaria]
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Blood diamonds sound pretty.:heart:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Addiction to luxury leading to enslavement of society. [Re: Icelander]
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i think those are called rubies.


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I close my eyes and seize it
I clench my fists and beat it
I light my torch and burn it
I am the beast I worship....

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Re: Addiction to luxury leading to enslavement of society. [Re: Olympus Mons]
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:confused:I thought rubies were mauve?


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Addiction to luxury leading to enslavement of society. [Re: Diaboleros]
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This is the way we evolved. The sanskrit word for the cosmic female energy, shakti, translates to "Power". Shiva, the cosmic male energy, translates to "graciousness"... roughly.  In modern society, the struggle for equality, even between genders, has lead to numerous problems since males are generally more physically powerful than females.

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Re: Addiction to luxury leading to enslavement of society. [Re: elfamale]
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OK, I want you to look at this picture
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tridevi.png
Luxurious, no?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sivakempfort.jpg
Leadership capability, no?
Our technological evolution has outpaced our biological evolution. Greed for currency has lead to a diversion of the natural drive for males to care for and pamper females.  This is leading to the enslavement of society. We're diverging from the main point here.  This is not about women controlling men's behavior, but about enslavement of society... artificially inflated value of diamonds, sweat shops to mass-produce inferior clothing and accessories, so on and so forth. What is the solution? You tell me.

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Re: Addiction to luxury leading to enslavement of society. [Re: elfamale]
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OK, I want you to look at this picture
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tridevi.png


I'd hit it.:satansmoking:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Addiction to luxury leading to enslavement of society. [Re: Icelander]
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Yeah that picture actually gave me a hard-on...

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Re: Addiction to luxury leading to enslavement of society. [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
OK, I want you to look at this picture
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tridevi.png


I'd hit it.:satansmoking:


wait do i get all 3 of them?


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Re: Addiction to luxury leading to enslavement of society. [Re: Icelander]
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yeah that is a goddess.


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I close my eyes and seize it
I clench my fists and beat it
I light my torch and burn it
I am the beast I worship....

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Re: Addiction to luxury leading to enslavement of society. [Re: Olympus Mons]
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The whole industry of selling diamonds is a ridiculous concoction by a worldwide diamond cartel. The demand and desire to have them was created by a greedy marketeer called De Beers, if I recall in the early 1900s some time. Humans can make diamond synthetically for real cheap, but still the demand for the "real deal" which has remained controlled by the industry, persists. The reality is that it is not women controlling men but Rich Industrialists controlling both through advertising. It's a "brave new world" we find ourselves in.


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"Have you ever seen what happens when a grenade goes off in a school? Do you really know what you’re doing when you order shock and awe? Are you prepared to kneel beside a dying soldier and tell him why he went to Iraq, or why he went to any war?"
"The things that are done in the name of the shareholder are, to me, as terrifying as the things that are done—dare I say it—in the name of God. Montesquieu said, "There have never been so many civil wars as in the Kingdom of God." And I begin to feel that’s true. The shareholder is the excuse for everything."
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Edited by ScavengerType (10/03/09 04:27 PM)

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